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dreghorn2

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Argghh!!

I'm still so upset about that call.

I cannot believe the Cowboys are coached by someone who would think along those lines.

Pitiful.

If Phillips returns expect more seasons to end in anger and frustration.
 

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CanadianCowboysFan;3237931 said:
I just can't stop thinking we should have gone for it in the first quarter. We were moving it constantly on them, were deep and a first down would have been huge.

Romo looked like he wanted to go for it but we didn't. Missed the FG and the rest is history.
It wasn't fourth and one yard!!!
It was fourth and one foot!!!
They had not stopped us once before that foolish decision.
If you are going to win, then go out and win by trying not by playing the odds playbook.

I hate Wade!!!
 

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You go for it in that situation.If you don't make the first down you give the Vikings worse field position than if you miss the field goal.

If I didn't have confidence in making a first down I would have punted the ball before trusting a shaky kicker.Either pin them inside the ten or get a touchback that would put them at the 20 instead of out past the thirty.
I agree 100%
 

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MichaelWinicki;3238522 said:
On the nosey John.

The term "gutless" is overused on this forum, but I think it applies in this case.

Awful, awful call.

This wasn't an outdoor game with the Doomsday Defense vs the Purple People Eaters...it was in doors, with Brett Favre and Tony Romo...ya knew it wasn't going to be a defensive affair.

And if the warped logic is that Wade had faith in his defense, then show it and punt.

But Wade being Wade, he didn't take a stand either way. Going for it, would have been a statement. Punting would have been a statement.

A simple risk/reward and percentage analysis would have told him to either go for it, or punt.

The kick from 48 yards would have matched the longest Suisham had made ALL SEASON.
 

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Pokes12;3238595 said:
It wasn't fourth and one yard!!!
It was fourth and one foot!!!
They had not stopped us once before that foolish decision.
If you are going to win, then go out and win by trying not by playing the odds playbook.

I hate Wade!!!

Can't argue with ya there.

I just watched that blowhard Rex Ryan go for the kill shot on fourth and one vs the Chargers.

Wade would have sent the FG unit out.
 

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Yeah I was feeling it there too. Especially when you don't know what you have with a kicker. Lots of wasted potential today.
 

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Juke99;3238638 said:
Can't argue with ya there.

I just watched that blowhard Rex Ryan go for the kill shot on fourth and one vs the Chargers.

Wade would have sent the FG unit out.
There's a big difference between going for it ahead in the 4th quarter and not going for it and kicking a FG in the 1st quarter of a scoreless game. I don't agree with the call and would have went for it but to make Ryan out to be some risk taker is silly. Wade would have and has went for 4th downs on plays like Ryan did today.
 

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Juke99;3238633 said:
This wasn't an outdoor game with the Doomsday Defense vs the Purple People Eaters...it was in doors, with Brett Favre and Tony Romo...ya knew it wasn't going to be a defensive affair.

And if the warped logic is that Wade had faith in his defense, then show it and punt.

But Wade being Wade, he didn't take a stand either way. Going for it, would have been a statement. Punting would have been a statement.

A simple risk/reward and percentage analysis would have told him to either go for it, or punt.

The kick from 48 yards would have matched the longest Suisham had made ALL SEASON.
Uh wrong, punting says hey we don't want to go for any points because we don't trust our kicker so let's give it to their offense. Punting would not have been a statement.
 

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mldardy;3238682 said:
There's a big difference between going for it ahead in the 4th quarter and not going for it and kicking a FG in the 1st quarter of a scoreless game. I don't agree with the call and would have went for it but to make Ryan out to be some risk taker is silly. Wade would have and has went for 4th downs on plays like Ryan did today.

Well substitute "Bilichick" for Ryan.

He would have gone for it in the 1st quarter.
 

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mldardy;3238682 said:
There's a big difference between going for it ahead in the 4th quarter and not going for it and kicking a FG in the 1st quarter of a scoreless game. I don't agree with the call and would have went for it but to make Ryan out to be some risk taker is silly. Wade would have and has went for 4th downs on plays like Ryan did today.


Ryan isn't a risk taker????

Have you watched his defenses play?

And yeah, there's a big difference. The difference is, if you go for it in the first quarter and don't make it, you still have an entire game to make up for it. If Ryan's team didn't make the first down there, that might have been a disaster for his team.

The Jets situation had a lot more on the line than the Cowboys'.

Yet Ryan went for it and Wade didn't.

It's not about the decision...it's about having the guts to go for the kill and to show your team you trust them.
 

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mldardy;3238693 said:
Uh wrong, punting says hey we don't want to go for any points because we don't trust our kicker so let's give it to their offense. Punting would not have been a statement.



Uh, we don't trust our kicker. I'd rather let the kicker know I don't trust him than an entire unit, offense or defense.
 

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Ozzu;3238844 said:
We probably should have gone for it, but we were still going to lose that game.

Yeah, you're probably right...

But I was still stunned that they didn't go for it.

To me the FG-attempt was the worst of the 3 options.
 

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and for those of you STILL supporting the decision Wade made, try this post game quote by Jerry Jones on for size...

“Before the game, we weren’t confident with anything over 44-45 yards,” Jones said of Suisham’s practice kicks. “So we had him try a few beyond that — 46 to 50 yards — and that was dicey.”
 

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Juke99;3238901 said:
and for those of you STILL supporting the decision Wade made, try this post game quote by Jerry Jones on for size...

“Before the game, we weren’t confident with anything over 44-45 yards,” Jones said of Suisham’s practice kicks. “So we had him try a few beyond that — 46 to 50 yards — and that was dicey.”

Exactly.

Every time I try to convince myself that Wade Phillips is a decent head coach, he does something like this– And it further convinces me that he isn't.
 
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