99 Years In Prison For 16th DWI

[vta]

What? These people aren't harming anyone.

Especially not the ******. They provide a much needed service.

****** no, the users keep the dealers in business. As long as there is a customer, there's a dealer.

 

[zrinkill]

This thread has taken a really dark turn.

 

[WV Cowboy]

For example Marijuana is illegal and considered a class one narcotic. Yet it has been decrinimalized to the point of a 25 buck fine in some places. At the same time I have no idea why it is a class one drug to begin with.

I would much rather have someone driving their car at mine that smoked a joint, over someone who had too much to drink.

But that's another topic.

Anyway, while I agree that DD is a bad and dangerous thing, .. if someone drives their car into mine and hits me head on, I'm not going to care if he was drunk, speeding or texting.

I am still hurt severely and in the hospital.

All are equally bad IMO.

Anything that impairs your ability to control your vehicle from crashing into someone else is all the same at the end of the day.

 

[hairic]

****** no, the users keep the dealers in business. As long as there is a customer, there's a dealer.

Not necessarily. User and dealer could be one and the same.

That's not the point, though. Neither the dealer nor the user would complain to the police about what they or the other did as criminal, because they both benefited from the transaction/weren't harmed. Same applies to prostitution, gambling, and whatever other black markets exist because activity between consenting parties was made illegal (like pinball machines).

Assuming the law got a reset:
To a person who was murdered, if you gave them a ghost with the ability to communicate, they would report it to the police.
To a person who was raped: Reported to police.
To kidnapping: Reported.
To slavery: Reported.
To burglary/theft: Reported.
To assault/battery: Reported.
To gambling: Not reported.
To prostitution: Not reported.
To drugs: Not reported.
To pinballers: Not reported.

The reason some things get reported and others don't can be attributed to whether they were victimized or not. And it's also why the policing methods used on those unreported things suck and will repeatedly fail.

 

[vta]

Not necessarily. User and dealer could be one and the same.

That's not the point, though. Neither the dealer nor the user would complain to the police about what they or the other did as criminal, because they both benefited from the transaction/weren't harmed. Same applies to prostitution, gambling, and whatever other black markets exist because activity between consenting parties was made illegal (like pinball machines).

Assuming the law got a reset:
To a person who was murdered, if you gave them a ghost with the ability to communicate, they would report it to the police.
To a person who was raped: Reported to police.
To kidnapping: Reported.
To slavery: Reported.
To burglary/theft: Reported.
To assault/battery: Reported.
To gambling: Not reported.
To prostitution: Not reported.
To drugs: Not reported.
To pinballers: Not reported.

The reason some things get reported and others don't can be attributed to whether they were victimized or not. And it's also why the policing methods used on those unreported things suck and will repeatedly fail.

I'm not too sure the point is predicated on whether or not an incident is reported. Being caught isn't the crime, the action itself is and damage isn't measured by reported incidents or readily apparent causes. A person killed by a drug trafficker without anyone knowing the circumstances of his death isn't a tick off of the truth that drug use is inadvertently related to his death. Especially if the person killed has nothing to do with drugs and was killed for something else, like thievery or the perception of being a threat.

A dry market brings about the death of any product, no users leaves no suppliers. Check out Beta vs. VHS!