A Bit of Optimistic Sun-Shine Pumping Kool-Aid Drinking Context

[jday]

the JD will get it out of you lol

if u r talking undergrad, i think more than 50% of harvard kids get aid of some type.

That would be awesome, but I'd by lying if I told you that was my first choice. Don't get me wrong, I would be extremely proud if my kid qualified for Harvard. But is it sad that I would be prouder if he went to school on a football scholarship somewhere in the Big 12, SEC, or what ever program is ruling the roost at that time? lol...

Okay, so it's more of a toss up. I'm really not sure which would make me prouder. Do you still have those two quarters you were talking about in the other thread? Let's flip it and go that direction. Plus, can I keep the two quarters? I'm gonna need it if Harvard wins!

 

[waldoputty]

That would be awesome, but I'd by lying if I told you that was my first choice. Don't get me wrong, I would be extremely proud if my kid qualified for Harvard. But is it sad that I would be prouder if he went to school on a football scholarship somewhere in the Big 12, SEC, or what ever program is ruling the roost at that time? lol...

Okay, so it's more of a toss up. I'm really not sure which would make me prouder. Do you still have those two quarters you were talking about in the other thread? Let's flip it and go that direction. Plus, can I keep the two quarters? I'm gonna need it if Harvard wins!

if your kids are pretty normal, i would suggest brown or stanford.
absolutely no MIT or Caltech.
you probably know these schools really care about achievements outside school, since there are way too many valedictorians.

 

[xwalker]

I believe you...my last response was intended in jest. And I certainly understand what you are saying...I don't, however, know if you understood my disclaimer completely. They don't have carte blanche to cuss. School, among other adults, around family...pretty much anyone that isn't me or my wife, absolutely unacceptable. And even around my wife and I, there has to be a good reason for it. Kinda hard to explain; but I'm just not very strict on that particular point for the reasons I described in the opening. But strict, in general, I am. My wife and I demand A's at school. Anything less is unacceptable and the punishment will be swift and overcompensating for the crime. I learned a long time ago that human's in general are willing to accept a certain degree of punishment to get their own way. So we always make sure punishment is in no way close to being bearable for getting their way. I'm also former military, so often times I have my kids do a series of exercise until they can't stand. The way see it, not only does the punishment get a message across, I am simultaneously making them stronger. That's may favorite way to deal with disrespect in particular. So, while I can appreciate your short anecdote, I'm pretty sure my kids are going to turn out okay.

I think there are more differences in my neighbors than just allowing or not allowing cussing; although, it is an interesting outcome for kids of similar socioeconomic backgrounds.

Discipline is definitely needed for kids. Some parents think they are doing their kids a favor by not disciplining them, but in reality, it generally makes it harder for them to function when they move away from home and/or get a job. Another of my neighbor's kid failed in sports because he could not handle any criticism. It was easy to see that his parent taught him that he was the greatest and should never be criticized by some High School coach that made way less money that his Dad.

I hear people refer to millennials being a problem in society, but it's their parents generation that caused it. Millennials had less discipline from their parents than previous generations.

 

[waldoputty]

I think there are more differences in my neighbors than just allowing or not allowing cussing; although, it is an interesting outcome for kids of similar socioeconomic backgrounds.

Discipline is definitely needed for kids. Some parents think they are doing their kids a favor by not disciplining them, but in reality, it generally makes it harder for them to function when they move away from home and/or get a job. Another of my neighbor's kid failed in sports because he could not handle any criticism. It was easy to see that his parent taught him that he was the greatest and should never be criticized by some High School coach that made way less money that his Dad.

I hear people refer to millennials being a problem in society, but it's their parents generation that caused it. Millennials had less discipline from their parents than previous generations.

poor millennials have to deal with the financial meltdown caused by their parents generation

 

[xwalker]

i read somewhere garrett also ran below 4.6 - perhaps pro day

NFLDS shows 4.65 for his Pro Day. It's rare for a guy like him to even do the measurable(s) at his Pro Day.

 

[jday]

if your kids are pretty normal, i would suggest brown or stanford.
absolutely no MIT or Caltech.
you probably know these schools really care about achievements outside school, since there are way too many valedictorians.

Good to know. Of course, as the parent, there is only so much we can do in terms of deciding where they should go. You just have to hope you have instilled in them enough good sense to make the best decision for themselves...and not necessarily for me and my one wish in this world to watch my son play football on TV. lol

 

[waldoputty]

NFLDS shows 4.65 for his Pro Day. It's rare for a guy like him to even do the measurable(s) at his Pro Day.

from a 10 sec google search: https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...-40-yard-dash-texas-a-and-m-pro-day/99829768/
Garrett told reporters he ran the 40-yard dash in 4.56 seconds. That compares with his combine time of 4.64, though NFL Network draft analyst Mike Mayock recorded Garrett’s time Thursday at 4.61 seconds.

 

[waldoputty]

Good to know. Of course, as the parent, there is only so much we can do in terms of deciding where they should go. You just have to hope you have instilled in them enough good sense to make the best decision for themselves...and not necessarily for me and my one wish in this world to watch my son play football on TV. lol

lol i know what you mean.
decades ago, my poor parents tried to encouraged me to go to certain schools by taking me on a college tour.
of course, they did not listen to what i told them and i eventually applied to 3 schools, none of which was toured lol

 

[xwalker]

from a 10 sec google search: https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...-40-yard-dash-texas-a-and-m-pro-day/99829768/
Garrett told reporters he ran the 40-yard dash in 4.56 seconds. That compares with his combine time of 4.64, though NFL Network draft analyst Mike Mayock recorded Garrett’s time Thursday at 4.61 seconds.

Mayock says 4.61 and Garrett himself says 4.56. Scouts will hand time the forty and some will get different results.

This article says 4.62.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2017/story/_/id/19041096/myles-garrett-improves-40-texas-pro-day

In the article Garrett says his personal best is 4.47 (Maybe, or it might have been with his buddy operating the stopwatch).

 

[jday]

I think there are more differences in my neighbors than just allowing or not allowing cussing; although, it is an interesting outcome for kids of similar socioeconomic backgrounds.

Discipline is definitely needed for kids. Some parents think they are doing their kids a favor by not disciplining them, but in reality, it generally makes it harder for them to function when they move away from home and/or get a job. Another of my neighbor's kid failed in sports because he could not handle any criticism. It was easy to see that his parent taught him that he was the greatest and should never be criticized by some High School coach that made way less money that his Dad.

I hear people refer to millennials being a problem in society, but it's their parents generation that caused it. Millennials had less discipline from their parents than previous generations.

Ah. The difference emerges. My real father left my mom before I was born. My mother remarried to a man 12 years her senior. He is now 75. Anywho, I got an old school, butt whooping, upbringing. Because what my dad did in today's world is considered abuse, I'm not quite as hard on my kids as he was on my brother and I. But what I can't do with a paddle, I can do all day between pushups, flutter kicks, and a little thing I endearingly call Wally's. That's where I have my son place his back against the wall, bend his knees to a 90 degree angle and hold his arms out straight in front of him. He loves it.

 

[jday]

You got way to much time on your hands. Lol
That said, good read. Thanks!

Thanks for reading sir!

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I'm not raining on your post. I have seen several threads here which have numerous posts discussing the two rookies Tapper and Jaylon. I get why people say that, but quite honestly it is sort of like trying to spend the same dollar twice.

They were both drafted last year and will make the last draft class potentially more epic if they contribute to any degree. We don't really get to say they made the last draft class epic AND his draft class epic and count them as members of both classes.

Except Jaylon and Tapper didn't "spend" last year due to injury and we got the result that we had, 13-3.

If they come back healthy then it is just like adding any other two players that did not play last year.

 

[jday]

Except Jaylon and Tapper didn't "spend" last year due to injury and we got the result that we had, 13-3.

If they come back healthy then it is just like adding any other two players that did not play last year.

It really is a matter of how you the individual wants to look at it. Either way, though, like you said, these are two players that didn't play a down last year, who will hopefully play every down this year. So while it technically isn't their rookie season, in every other way that is exactly what it is.

 

[waldoputty]

Ah. The difference emerges. My real father left my mom before I was born. My mother remarried to a man 12 years her senior. He is now 75. Anywho, I got an old school, butt whooping, upbringing. Because what my dad did in today's world is considered abuse, I'm not quite as hard on my kids as he was on my brother and I. But what I can't do with a paddle, I can do all day between pushups, flutter kicks, and a little thing I endearingly call Wally's. That's where I have my son place his back against the wall, bend his knees to a 90 degree angle and hold his arms out straight in front of him. He loves it.

the tormenter showing his tools with a gleeful smile

 

[ilykdrama]

If Jaylon plays up to original projection, the Cowboys in 2016 drafted the best offensive player, best defensive player and franchise QB in the first 4 rounds.

Enough said.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

It really is a matter of how you the individual wants to look at it. Either way, though, like you said, these are two players that didn't play a down last year, who will hopefully play every down this year. So while it technically isn't their rookie season, in every other way that is exactly what it is.

Jaylon did not accrue service time on the NFI and is still technically a first year player.

 

[waldoputty]

If Jaylon plays up to original projection, the Cowboys in 2016 drafted the best offensive player, best defensive player and franchise QB in the first 4 rounds.

Enough said.

we already counted those chickens.
what have you done for me lately

 

[ilykdrama]

we already counted those chickens.
what have you done for me lately

...K

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

if your kids are pretty normal, i would suggest brown or stanford.
absolutely no MIT or Caltech.
you probably know these schools really care about achievements outside school, since there are way too many valedictorians.

 

[jday]

the tormenter showing his tools with a gleeful smile