A Bit of Optimistic Sun-Shine Pumping Kool-Aid Drinking Context

[jday]

If Jaylon plays up to original projection, the Cowboys in 2016 drafted the best offensive player, best defensive player and franchise QB in the first 4 rounds.

Enough said.

I don't even think any team has ever done that before...that's lookup worthy...

 

[waldoputty]

 

[xwalker]

Ah. The difference emerges. My real father left my mom before I was born. My mother remarried to a man 12 years her senior. He is now 75. Anywho, I got an old school, butt whooping, upbringing. Because what my dad did in today's world is considered abuse, I'm not quite as hard on my kids as he was on my brother and I. But what I can't do with a paddle, I can do all day between pushups, flutter kicks, and a little thing I endearingly call Wally's. That's where I have my son place his back against the wall, bend his knees to a 90 degree angle and hold his arms out straight in front of him. He loves it.

Yes, I think "whuppins" should be avoided but I don't think it should be off the table.

My Dad was a teacher back in the seventies and eighties. He taught what they called building trades and all of his students had discipline issues and couldn't functional well in normal classes. Many of them just would not respond to anything but a good whupping. Many of those kids came from screwed up families that couldn't or wouldn't instill discipline in the kids. When my Dad got cancer and the prognosis was not good, a large number of his previous students came out to the house to tell him how those whuppins and discipline changed their life for the better.

A couple of interesting side notes:
1. The kids that got whuppins would build paddles in the shop to give to my Dad. They would basically complete to see who could build the most effective paddle. Some even drilled a pattern of holes in the paddle to make it wind resistant or something like that. It never made sense to me. I thought they would want to build them from balsa wood or Styrofoam.

2. Some of the Dads would show up at the school after their kid got a whupping intent on "settling" the score with my Dad, but then they would figure out that he was built like an NFL Linebacker and have an "Oh S" moment.

 

[jday]

Yes, I think "whuppins" should be avoided but I don't think it should be off the table.

My Dad was a teacher back in the seventies and eighties. He taught what they called building trades and all of his students had discipline issues and couldn't functional well in normal classes. Many of them just would not respond to anything but a good whupping. Many of those kids came from screwed up families that couldn't or wouldn't instill discipline in the kids. When my Dad got cancer and the prognosis was not good, a large number of his previous students came out to the house to tell him how those whuppins and discipline changed their life for the better.

A couple of interesting side notes:
1. The kids that got whuppins would build paddles in the shop to give to my Dad. They would basically complete to see who could build the most effective paddle. Some even drilled a pattern of holes in the paddle to make it wind resistant or something like that. It never made sense to me. I thought they would want to build them from balsa wood or Styrofoam.

2. Some of the Dads would show up at the school after their kid got a whupping intent on "settling" the score with my Dad, but then they would figure out that he was built like an NFL Linebacker and have an "Oh S" moment.

My dad was 6'4", a weight lifter built like Arnold, and has some serious anger management issues. Sounds like our upbringings may have been similar. I'm a big believer in whippings, but I don't leave marks, I don't use it for every infraction, and if you do it from when they are really young, you find the need for it becomes less and less early on.

 

[xwalker]

My dad was 6'4", a weight lifter built like Arnold, and has some serious anger management issues. Sounds like our upbringings may have been similar. I'm a big believer in whippings, but I don't leave marks, I don't use it for every infraction, and if you do it from when they are really young, you find the need for it becomes less and less early on.

Actually, all my whuppins came from my Mom. The threat of my Dad kept me in line.

My Dad was actually very easy going, but when those students needed a whuppin, they got it. In fact most of the women teachers would ask him to come give their students whuppins.

 

[jday]

Actually, all my whuppins came from my Mom. The threat of my Dad kept me in line.

My Dad was actually very easy going, but when those students needed a whuppin, they got it. In fact most of the women teachers would ask him to come give their students whuppins.

Can you imagine how much better life would be for everyone if they still allowed it in schools.

 

[T-RO]

If Tapper and Jaylon are healthy and play well...that gets credited to the 2016 draft. The 2017 draft class will be measured by the guys we selected this year.

And...we still need to see those two play healthy...and play well. I don't think Jaylon or any NFL player can lose 30% of his athleticism and play effectively in the NFL. Jaylon is going to need at least 95% of his previous overall athleticism to make instant impact.

 

[Paniolo22]

Until these guys make real plays, our opponents have exactly 0% fear in what they might do.

 

[Hardline]

Tapper ran a 4.59 at 270+ pounds.

Fastest time ever for a guy 270+.

Like to see him play running back

 

[jday]

If Tapper and Jaylon are healthy and play well...that gets credited to the 2016 draft. The 2017 draft class will be measured by the guys we selected this year.

And...we still need to see those two play healthy...and play well. I don't think Jaylon or any NFL player can lose 30% of his athleticism and play effectively in the NFL. Jaylon is going to need at least 95% of his previous overall athleticism to make instant impact.

The disclaimer is right there in the title. That combination of words is supposed to wort off realist, pessimist, and people who take made up off the top of head percentages too seriously.

Your probably right about the percentage, though.

 

[GhostOfPelluer]

I'm not raining on your post. I have seen several threads here which have numerous posts discussing the two rookies Tapper and Jaylon. I get why people say that, but quite honestly it is sort of like trying to spend the same dollar twice.

They were both drafted last year and will make the last draft class potentially more epic if they contribute to any degree. We don't really get to say they made the last draft class epic AND his draft class epic and count them as members of both classes.

I reserve the right to assign Jaylon and Tapper to whichever class helps support my argument at the time, thank you very much

 

[Outlaw Heroes]

My neighbors let their kids cuss. Now:
1 is dead from an overdose
1 is in jail for attempted murder
1 is pregnant at 12 years old

Yep. Looks like you've pretty much established a causal link between childhood cussing and tragic failure later in life. You should see if you can get your results published.

 

[waldoputty]

I reserve the right to assign Jaylon and Tapper to whichever class helps support my argument at the time, thank you very much

we expect no less

 

[DBOY3141]

If Tapper and Jaylon are healthy and play well...that gets credited to the 2016 draft. The 2017 draft class will be measured by the guys we selected this year.

And...we still need to see those two play healthy...and play well. I don't think Jaylon or any NFL player can lose 30% of his athleticism and play effectively in the NFL. Jaylon is going to need at least 95% of his previous overall athleticism to make instant impact.

Can't remember who said it, Brugler, Strum or someone from NFLN, but they said if Jaylon is at 85%, he would still be a 1st round pick this year. Will be interesting to see where he is at come August.