A casual Cowboy observer said to me...

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InmanRoshi;1100241 said:
You're ruining a perfectly good point he made up entirely in his head.
People in this forum like you know 30 times more about the Cowboys than a "casual observer" anyway.

But hey, whoever he wants to listen to right?
 

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TheNatureBoy;1100181 said:
"Dude , your Team is SO predictable on offense that it's absurd"

And going back and watching some stuff - he's 100 % correct! And last week it was bad - real bad. Very little in the way of playaction , even against Philly when we were stuffing the run down their throats -we never bothered to sell playaction deep down the middle to Witten - NEVER!

We need an overhaul this week v.s. the Giants not just a wrinkle or two , we need to unleash some stuff we haven't used yet.

As you know this is a huge game and in NY they're building this as a Giants stepping stone to the NFC Crown b/c their Schedule gets REAL Soft REAL Soon.

For whatever reason, be it Bledsoe's SEVERE lack of flow or SEVERE lack of tempo or maybe it's just a poor OC mind calling the plays we just look FLAT and UNIMAGINATIVE on offense.

I say the less we have Bledsoe throw the better chance we have of winning. We need to keep Bledsoe attempt range in the 20-25 area to limit his brain farts
 

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Back in the glory days of the triplets we were predictible and tipped our plays. Marty S had said, I am paraphrasing, "We always knew what the play was but we couldn't stop it". Knowing the play and executing a play stop it are 2 different things.
 

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I have issues with our offense, and I do think that our scoring offensive rating is a bit high, but my issues aren't because of predictability.

That being said - if people look at that scoring offense stat and think this offense is where it should be, you are definitely fooling yourself.
 

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If we're so predicatble then why cant teams stop us.

Because its not about being Cute and fancy, its about out playing your oppenent. I would love Bledsoe to say hey this is a run, and still get 4 yards. Why cause that means we're excuting. Being predictable doesnt hurt your offense. IMO It helps because then its a heck of a lot easier to surprise teams with a wrinkle.

If you run the ball 40+ times in the first 6 games with not a single playaction.

THen do a flea flicker to open game 7, do you think the team is gonna be ready for it?

Thought so, go whine to your mommy now. You've ust been schooled by me and others in this thread
 

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peplaw06;1100192 said:
If we were so predictable, we wouldn't be in the top 5 in the league in scoring.

And that's with our bye week out of the way.

Don't let facts get in your way though.

Ouch, peplaw, spot on, but an unmerciful reply nevertheless. That stated, amazingly stupid assessments deservedly draw caustic remarks.
 

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"For whatever reason, be it Bledsoe's SEVERE lack of flow or SEVERE lack of tempo or maybe it's just a poor OC mind calling the plays we just look FLAT and UNIMAGINATIVE on offense".

TheNatureBoy, are you stating that Bledsoe has a urinary obstruction or that he is musically impaired? Who do you want designing the offensive plays, JK Rowling?

Seriously, if there was ever a thread where a poster fell on his own keyboard, this is it. If I were you I would fess up to being high or that you are experiencing a temporary bout of insanity with the caveat that you are recovering.
 

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jrumann59;1100247 said:
Back in the glory days of the triplets we were predictible and tipped our plays. Marty S had said, I am paraphrasing, "We always knew what the play was but we couldn't stop it". Knowing the play and executing a play stop it are 2 different things.


:hammer: :dissgint:
 

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Here's what's become so predictable:

Shock and hurt feelings because of what the big bad media monsters put out on the Cowboys....boo hoo.

I was right I told you we suck threads when Dallas loses (and even when they win, see Texans game thread).

We should have drafted/signed Insert Name Here anytime said player has good game.

The Commanders sucking.:D
 

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Hey, most everyone knows the BP loves to establish the run ......and yes that is predictable at times.
 

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TheNatureBoy;1100181 said:
"Dude , your Team is SO predictable on offense that it's absurd"

The cowboys offense of the 90s was about as predictable as it got.


Doesn't matter if the opposing Defense knows what you're gonna do. All that matters is if they can stop you.
 

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Last week the offense was real predictable. I'll give him that. Other than that, they really haven't been that predictable. I enjoyed what they did in the previous games by throwing out tons of different personnel groupings and formations. Now they seem to be leaning back to more basic stuff...either the I formation with Fasano or Polite, Split back with Fasano or Polite, and the 3 WR formation with Crayton, Owens, and Glenn.

But up until last week, I didn't think predictability was an issue.


YAKUZA
 

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I've been saying this for years and screaming it this year.
I told my dad that opposing coordinators should hire me because I can tell you exactly what we're going to do on about every play, esp 2nd and 3rd down. We are so uncreative.
And I'm not asking for a bunch of trick plays or anything, just some more variety. I don't think we even ran one screen pass against Houston.
I think some of it is the fact that Bledsoe is so one-dimensional but I think some of it is also BP. We need a full-time coordinator.
What's is also so frustrating about our playcalling is that we don't utilize our tools as well as we could IMO. I can't stand the guy but he's continually right in saying that "We should get him the ball a LOT more than we are", of course I'm referring to TO. TO should get at least 2x deep ball, fly routes per game. TG will still get his but we need to start stretching the field vertically better IMO. I think JJ would put up even better numbers if teams were really afraid, like they should be, of us hitting TO deep.
Furthermore, TO should flat out get the ball 7-8x per game at a minimum, considering the kind of plays he's capable of making.
Screen passes, now that we can finally run them worth a crap, should be used more. Heck, that's the only play the Eagles and Skins run almost and it works pretty well.
We're not getting Witten very involved underneath either, but at least BP noted that.
I just don't feel like we are playing to our strengths on offense, esp given our array of weapons. And our play-calling and variety is about an unpredictable as a clock. I've often wondered what our offense would look like with some of the more creative Off Coords running our show. Most would kill to have the weapons we do. JMO
 

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Offense is about 99% execution, 1% "predictability". Fans seem to think its the opposite.
 

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TheNatureBoy;1100201 said:
Yeah nothing like the Facts like Stickiing a 34 Spot on the lowly Texans and a 40 Spot on the Titanics ....

Facts burn ...

Obviously the Texans and Titans aren't strong teams, but is it really an indictment of our offense that we scored a lot on them?

I hear what you are saying about the offense, but here are some things you should realize.

1. Often against good pass rushing teams Bledsoe either doesn't have a lot of time to take deep drops and wait for downfield patterns to develop, or he perceives more pressure than he has and makes mistakes.

2. Execution is more important than play calling. A perfectly executed play can succeed even if the play called wasn't great, but even the best possible play call can't succeed if it is executed poorly. We have had some execution problems in our losses.

3. Not executing downfield plays is not the same as not calling them. We have called more downfield plays than you realize - in some cases people were covered or Bledsoe made a bad choice or held the ball too long or the pass blocking broke down.

The bottom line is that perhaps our play calling could use a little more creativity, but not dramatically more - that would increase our chance of mistakes.
 

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the stealers were extremely predictable last year.
 

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The secret to being a good offense is not always tricking the opponent, it is in executing the play correctly. Remember Jimmy Johnson saying, "We know we are going to run Emmitt, they know we are going to run Emmitt, and the fans know we are going to run Emmitt. It's no secret, they just can't stop it."

Tricking the opponent is good for a big play from time to time, but if you rely on it, it will bite you back more often than not. Execution is what leads to consistent offensive production.
 
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