A CB problem that many of us foresaw. Jerry's lack of foresight...

[eduncan22]

The problem is...even when Newman is able to play, the secondary still blows.

We were 24th last year for a reason.

Our Corners had a total of 4 INTS last year.


Drafting Ball and Brown in the 7th round didn't fix anything.

 

[big dog cowboy]

The problem is...even when Newman is able to play, the secondary still blows.

We were 24th last year for a reason.

Our Corners had a total of 4 INTS last year.


Drafting Ball and Brown in the 7th round didn't fix anything.

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[TunaFan33]

The problem is...even when Newman is able to play, the secondary still blows.

We were 24th last year for a reason.

Our Corners had a total of 4 INTS last year.


Drafting Ball and Brown in the 7th round didn't fix anything.

Actually...the problem is...we didn't have much of a PASS RUSH the entire year.

Heck-throw in Asante, Rodney Harrison, and Brian Dawkins, and we would STILL suck in Pass D.

Dude-give it up. If we didn't, let's say, sign Leonard Davis, you would be starting all these "We have run blocking problems, why didn't we address this in the draft?" threads-and you know it.

 

[AsthmaField]

The problem is...even when Newman is able to play, the secondary still blows.

We were 24th last year for a reason.

Our Corners had a total of 4 INTS last year.


Drafting Ball and Brown in the 7th round didn't fix anything.

and the dallas defense went not being able to stop the run in 2002 to being the #1 ranked defense in 2003... and that's with almost the same personnel and it is with the same D-Coordinator.

Defenses change from year to year. That's last year's rankings with last year's staff. Give it a chance for this year.

 

[the kid 05]

The problem is...even when Newman is able to play, the secondary still blows.

We were 24th last year for a reason.

Our Corners had a total of 4 INTS last year.


Drafting Ball and Brown in the 7th round didn't fix anything.

yah 24th due to no passrush...let me try and explain something to you bud.

lack of pass rush means the qb can run around for minutes (remember Donovan Running around for 17 seconds then throwing a bomb to McMitchelle? yah lack of pass rush)

if we get a consistent pressure on the qb our secondary will shine.

the Defense is like a school system of management. if one portion of it fails...they all fail.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Not saying they could start -- but Wade said today that the two 7th round DBs were "showing well". That was good to hear considering we haven't heard much good about them lately.

I think Thursday is going to be fun. It won't be like a real game, but it'll be interesting to see these guys (plus Quincy Butler) get more extended playing time.

I don't have a lot of faith in Nate Jones, but you never know when one of the rookies might really jump up and show something.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

There aren't many shut down corners. We are lucky to have one. At the same time this is the price you pay when you have premier players at some positions. You can't be deep every where.

 

[zrinkill]

The problem is...even when Newman is able to play, the secondary still blows.

We were 24th last year for a reason.

Our Corners had a total of 4 INTS last year.


Drafting Ball and Brown in the 7th round didn't fix anything.

Edunce still will not answer who he would have got and who he would have replaced to get him.

If we had not got Spencer ..... then Gregs injury would be the big scare.
We have needed O-line help for years and we got it ......
Who could we have gotten in the 4th round that would have helped us more than Stanback? What CB could we have gotten in the late rounds that would have helped us more than Folk ..... especially now that Grammy is injured?

You are the joke of the forum.

 

[Oh_Canada]

I still think Joey Thomas can be a decent corner in the league and Ball isn't as bad as he looked on that touchdown Saturday. Irregardless, no player they could have drafted would be able to replace Newman anyhow and could you imagine the panic if Ellis couldn't return this year and there was no one to replace him?

 

[TunaFan33]

I still think Joey Thomas can be a decent corner in the league and Ball isn't as bad as he looked on that touchdown Saturday. Irregardless, no player they could have drafted would be able to replace Newman anyhow and could you imagine the panic if Ellis couldn't return this year and there was no one to replace him?

You know what I find funny? Every time a player gets injured, this entire board wants to play armchair GM/Coach.

Back in '05 when Flo got hurt, there were several threads screaming for Parcells to sign Ross Verba(and THIS despite getting kicked off his previous teams for having lazy worth ethic problems).

And for the record-Yes, Flo's loss hurt our O-but it was our KICKING GAME that costed us the NFCE Title, and then kept us out of the playoffs.

 

[Rack]

A CB problem that many of us foresaw. Jerry's lack of foresight...

Hey, "Awakened" ... go back to sleep.


What teams wouldn't have "problems" if they lost one of the top 5 CBs in the league to injury?

 

[Awakened]

C'mon guys. You all act like I've accused Jerry of child molestation. All I'm saying is that he should have looked harder at drafting a CB or two in the early rounds (1-4) the last couple of drafts. Heck, we've worked harder at drafting TE's than CB's.

And I'm guessing that the reason for his negligence is the large sum of money he already has invested in the top 3.

 

[TunaFan33]

C'mon guys. You all act like I've accused Jerry of child molestation. All I'm saying is that he should have looked harder at drafting a CB or two in the early rounds (1-4) the last couple of drafts. Heck, we've worked harder at drafting TE's than CB's.

And I'm guessing that the reason for his negligence is the large sum of money he already has invested in the top 3.

If you're taking in the previous years-then it was largely Bill Poorsmells' calls.

Remember in '04, Jerry suggested he get a corner(from FA, draft, otherwise), but Bill opted to get that loan officer off the practice squad instead. And I believe Carpenter was also Bill's call as well.

 

[Deep_Freeze]

C'mon guys. You all act like I've accused Jerry of child molestation. All I'm saying is that he should have looked harder at drafting a CB or two in the early rounds (1-4) the last couple of drafts. Heck, we've worked harder at drafting TE's than CB's.

And I'm guessing that the reason for his negligence is the large sum of money he already has invested in the top 3.

Yeah, problem is we have that in several positions and this really can't be planned for in advance. If Romo went down, same situation, or worse. What if TO....Fergy...there are alot of spots that would hurt if the guy went down, with older players there too.

We were unlucky with TNew. But if you are looking at a combo of age, money, and such, we are in alot worse spot in other positions if they get hurt. I, for one, wanted a CB, cause on a team that truly is built to be a front running offensive team (as our points scored suggests), pass rush and secondary should be primary concerns on D.

 

[dbair1967]

Yeah another cb thread. We don't have enough of those.

I agree

people act like the season is over or something...riddle me this then:

can anyone honestly name a starting CB on any of the last few super bowl winners? it kinda tells you that if you are good in other areas, you can get by without great CB's

New England beat Philly with a piece-mill secondary...Pitts CB's arnt very good...Indy?

David

 

[DallasEast]

It's a full moon.

That's mostly when they come out and post.






Mostly....

Why don't you put her in charge?!!? :laugh2:


Great movie. Great for quotes, too.


If we lost a WR, everyone would be saying we gambled and lost at that position. You just can't have a steak at every position... just ask Mick.

AsthmaField beat me to it. Great movie and a classic in my book.

All this cornerback speculation over Newman's condition is very... well... nuts actually. He has a condition which may affect his level of play from game to game. That happens in football--especially on the professional stage. What hasn't happen is that his condition predicated the amputation of his leg.

We have a head coach who, along with his defensive coordinator, has a very strong defensive mind. He'll make adjustments accordingly, either using existing personnel or any other players he believes could be temporarily plugged into his 3-4 defense at cornerback.

The season is not lost. A roster problem has surfaced, that's all. This is exactly the kind of opportunity which fans can find out for themselves just how good this team's coaching staff and front office really is.

OR we can keep slashing at our wrists with cheapo plastic knives. It's all relative, you know.

 

[baj1dallas]

I know Wade is not excited about any of our backup CB's but we have all seen Reeves play and he is not terrible in the nickle. Aaron Glen will have matchup problems with bigger WR's but I think he is still a good cover guy.

It may not be ideal but it is not dire straits either.

I have been a little disappointed in Reeves' lack of progress going back to last season...it could be that he just needs more playing time, but how do you know that? He seems physical enough, but he makes mistakes.

 

[Goldenrichards83]

I don't understand why this guy is getting so much flak. I don't agree with you on not drafting Anthony Spencer with our 1st pick, he is better than any of those other rushers you mention however I do agree that the CB position has been neglected for the last couple of years especially knowing that Glenn was in his upper 30's. Hindsight is 20/20 but we should have already begun the duty of finding his replacement even though he has been very decent for us. Maybe Parcells thought Jones and Reeves would be that future 3rd Cb and would someday push Glenn. We all know how that went.

I think we did good in taking Carp and Spencer, a 3/4 defense needs athletic lbers but it seems as we could have lookd at the Cb position alot sooner the past couple of years than 6th or 7th rds.

 

[DallasEast]

I don't understand why this guy is getting so much flak.

...because the season hasn't even started and he's already panicking about our cornerback 'situation'..?

 

[DallasEast]

Problem solved