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49ers fan here. Apologies in advance for another Owens post, but I’ve seen some things written on this board that gave me the urge to address some of what is being said. I’ll admit that I’m probably a little biased being that I have been a big fan of him since he was a member of our team, but I also think I have some insight that people really haven’t thought about before.
Re: Owens is selfish/narcissistic
The irony here is that the same people who make this complaint are the same ones who give him so much attention and credit him for so many things going wrong.
I’ve seen posts here where he is all but blamed for every problem the Cowboys have. I think there are some people here with 80% of their post count being something pertaining to Owens. I saw an article posted here from someone on FOX where the author alleged Jason Garrett didn’t get a head coaching job because of Owens. Apparently somehow, Terrell Owens used his magical powers and spread something about Garrett not being able to coach black players or something? Or because Garrett reportedly had trouble coaching Owens, the perception out there is Garrett is somehow incompetent, as if that would be the perception with the reputation Owens has in this league?
This was perhaps the most insanely idiotic article I have ever read in my life, and that’s really saying something. And this author spoke as if everything he reported was fact.
You guys give Owens way too much credit. Somehow he apparently manages to divide the locker room and alienate people while simultaneously bringing people over to his side so that he has numerous supporters who will go to bat for him in the media at all costs. Not only that, but he apparently involves the coaches in it, too. An awful lot of people actually think Bill Parcells left the Cowboys because of Terrell Owens and Terrell Owens alone. He just couldn’t coach this player he reportedly never really talked to. He’s a master manipulator and apparently faked a hamstring injury during the first training camp to test the waters and see how much he could get away with. He was just plotting on how he could destroy the poor team.
People actually allege that he tore apart the San Francisco 49ers. He apparently tore apart a team that went 7-9 in 2003. Funny, all this time I thought it was Terry Donahue who did that when he let 8 offensive starters go, including Owens himself. And obviously, the part where Owens was released couldn’t have possibly hurt the team, could it? Owens doesn’t help you win games or anything, does he? I would suggest people calculate his won/loss record since he came into the league. And he doesn’t have a ring, but he very easily could have had one back in 1997 when we clearly had the best team in the league but laid an egg against the Packers in the NFC Championship game (per usual with that group).
And the idea that one man can “poison” a locker room of 53 men seems foolish to me, but many people don’t even really seem to question this.
On top of that, he’s ESPN’s version of “Brangelina.”
So is it really that surprising that he thinks about himself an awful lot? If you got the kind of insane media coverage this guy gets, coupled with numerous articles suggesting that you are a perfect disaster and master manipulator who destroys NFL locker rooms all by yourself, I suspect you’d start to think you were a big deal, too.
I think when the whole world is talking about you, it only stands to reason that you’ll start to think more about yourself.
An attention ***** can’t be an attention ***** without an audience.
Re: Romo needs to tell him to shut up
I really don’t understand this one. I saw several Cowboys games (and all their highlights) this season and not once did I see Owens screaming at Romo on the sidelines. I’d imagine if it happened, it would’ve been front page news after appearing on the TV screen.
So if Owens is putting pressure on Romo to get him the ball, it’s obviously taking place behind the scenes. But, to my knowledge, nobody behind the scenes has said that Owens has been pressuring Romo to get him the ball, either. I’d imagine he probably does what all receivers do and lets him know when he was open, but that’s as innocuous as it gets.
So it’s mere speculation on everyone’s part. People say that Romo needs to tell Owens to shut up, but what does he need to shut up about? Jason Garrett and the offensive system? Romo would be the biggest hypocrite ever if he told him that after what he said following the Eagles game.
The only one who can really tell Owens to stop doing sitdown interviews with Deion Sanders is Jerry Jones, and he’s obviously not doing that.
Re: He divided two locker rooms
Let’s just say for the moment that this is true. The assumption you are making when you then make the jump to “Owens has divided our locker room” is:
1. Owens divided locker rooms
2. Our locker room is divided
3. Therefore, Owens is the one who divided this locker room.
That’s a classic fallacy. You’re drawing a conclusion without actual proof.
So what is locker room division, anyway? I’m pretty sure all NFL locker rooms have some division in them. You’re not going to get a group of 53 men where everyone gets along.
With the 49ers, Kevan Barlow and Fred Beasley had a locally publicized fist-fight and Beasley insulted him in the press. Would you be shocked to learn that this never made ESPN? Sure, they weren’t as high profile players as Owens, but one was considered one of the game’s top young running backs, the other was a two-time all-pro.
The fans on this board should all know by now that the media sensationalizes things when it comes to Owens. Even if you can’t stand him and want him cut, for whatever reason, nobody in his/her right mind denies that they blow plenty of things out of proportion when it comes to “T.O.”
You’ve witnessed it first hand. Does it not then stand to reason that the same thing may have happened at his previous two stops?
I remember the whole Eagles fiasco. I remember how the story got about 90% of Sportscenter’s time when it was unfolding. It was absurd. There were people who really couldn’t care less, yet they were shoving this garbage down everyone’s throat as if Terrell Owens is the be all, end all of sports. What about the other 31 teams? What about the other major and minor sports that they supposedly cover?
And now I think back to Keyshawn Johnson being deactivated by Jon Gruden. Barely a blip on the radar. Why?
Keyshawn got some negative attention when he was playing in the media pressure cooker in New York, but once he was traded, we never heard another peep about him. Even in New York, the amount of coverage he got pales in comparison to what Owens gets for sneezing.
The problem is, they are obsessed to the point where they give him this constant outlet and he uses it.
Terrell Owens hasn’t done anything other players haven’t done before. He criticizes coaches? Clinton Portis received very little media coverage for slamming Jim Zorn on the radio in the middle of the season this year. And he went right after him personally; no tip-toeing around the actual person by blaming the “system.”
He criticized a teammate or two in the past? Dre Bly blasted Joey Harrington and blamed the Lions’ season and Mariucci’s firing squarely on him. Keyshawn Johnson (the same Keyshawn who was deactivated) constantly insulted Warren Sapp in the press. Those incidents got a fraction of the coverage Owens receives for blowing his nose. How many people besides me even remember these things?
He said Garcia is gay? How is it that you think word got around that Kordell Stewart was gay? It didn’t just appear out of thin air, you know.
Owens has been getting an insane amount of bad press as far back as 2000. This was before any of the stuff people frequently use these days to portray Owens as the ultimate sports villain ever transpired.
This was before the Werder article, before the Deion interview, before the Bill Parcells stuff. Before the Cowboys.
Before he was kicked off the Eagles after the McNabb/Favre thing in the Graham Bensinger interview. Before the suspension in training camp and situps on his driveway. Before the contract dispute and the “I wasn’t the guy who get tired in the Super Bowl” comment that started everything off. Before the Eagles, period.
This was before the Garcia/gay Playboy interview. Before the shouting at Greg Knapp on the sidelines and before the fallout with Garcia. Before the Sharpie celebration. Before the Steve Mariucci “buddy system” comment after the Bears game.
Do you remember what it was that kick started “T.O.” in 2000? It involved your team. I’m sure you remember it.
We won that game 41-24. A team pastor told the receivers during the walk through before the game that if they scored a touchdown, they should go to midfield and “look up and praise God through the hole in the roof.” Owens and J.J. Stokes both took this to heart and decided that if either of them scored, they would do just that.
As fate had it, Owens scored twice and went to midfield twice, sparking one of the biggest controversies in the history of professional sports. People assumed he had done it just to show off, and perceived it as “the ultimate me-me-me thing in sports.”
Which leads me to…
Re: People don’t change
I saw a post by I believe it was DallasEast saying that Terrell Owens is the exact same person he’s always been. I refer you to the following from an article written in 1998:
http://vault.sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vau...799/2/index.htm
Does that sound like the Terrell Owens of today to you?
Owens obviously changed because of the situation. That’s the thing about people making judgments--they overestimate the effect a person’s personality has on the situation and don’t take the situation into consideration.
Did Owens just all of a sudden start behaving different and doing all of these supposedly egregious things because his personality changed?
Or, was it instead a combination of him behaving somewhat different because of the way he was being portrayed and scrutinized, and him being so scrutinized that commonplace, minor things were being exaggerated to epic proportions?
I’ll leave you to figure that out.
Re: Owens is selfish/narcissistic
The irony here is that the same people who make this complaint are the same ones who give him so much attention and credit him for so many things going wrong.
I’ve seen posts here where he is all but blamed for every problem the Cowboys have. I think there are some people here with 80% of their post count being something pertaining to Owens. I saw an article posted here from someone on FOX where the author alleged Jason Garrett didn’t get a head coaching job because of Owens. Apparently somehow, Terrell Owens used his magical powers and spread something about Garrett not being able to coach black players or something? Or because Garrett reportedly had trouble coaching Owens, the perception out there is Garrett is somehow incompetent, as if that would be the perception with the reputation Owens has in this league?
This was perhaps the most insanely idiotic article I have ever read in my life, and that’s really saying something. And this author spoke as if everything he reported was fact.
You guys give Owens way too much credit. Somehow he apparently manages to divide the locker room and alienate people while simultaneously bringing people over to his side so that he has numerous supporters who will go to bat for him in the media at all costs. Not only that, but he apparently involves the coaches in it, too. An awful lot of people actually think Bill Parcells left the Cowboys because of Terrell Owens and Terrell Owens alone. He just couldn’t coach this player he reportedly never really talked to. He’s a master manipulator and apparently faked a hamstring injury during the first training camp to test the waters and see how much he could get away with. He was just plotting on how he could destroy the poor team.
People actually allege that he tore apart the San Francisco 49ers. He apparently tore apart a team that went 7-9 in 2003. Funny, all this time I thought it was Terry Donahue who did that when he let 8 offensive starters go, including Owens himself. And obviously, the part where Owens was released couldn’t have possibly hurt the team, could it? Owens doesn’t help you win games or anything, does he? I would suggest people calculate his won/loss record since he came into the league. And he doesn’t have a ring, but he very easily could have had one back in 1997 when we clearly had the best team in the league but laid an egg against the Packers in the NFC Championship game (per usual with that group).
And the idea that one man can “poison” a locker room of 53 men seems foolish to me, but many people don’t even really seem to question this.
On top of that, he’s ESPN’s version of “Brangelina.”
So is it really that surprising that he thinks about himself an awful lot? If you got the kind of insane media coverage this guy gets, coupled with numerous articles suggesting that you are a perfect disaster and master manipulator who destroys NFL locker rooms all by yourself, I suspect you’d start to think you were a big deal, too.
I think when the whole world is talking about you, it only stands to reason that you’ll start to think more about yourself.
An attention ***** can’t be an attention ***** without an audience.
Re: Romo needs to tell him to shut up
I really don’t understand this one. I saw several Cowboys games (and all their highlights) this season and not once did I see Owens screaming at Romo on the sidelines. I’d imagine if it happened, it would’ve been front page news after appearing on the TV screen.
So if Owens is putting pressure on Romo to get him the ball, it’s obviously taking place behind the scenes. But, to my knowledge, nobody behind the scenes has said that Owens has been pressuring Romo to get him the ball, either. I’d imagine he probably does what all receivers do and lets him know when he was open, but that’s as innocuous as it gets.
So it’s mere speculation on everyone’s part. People say that Romo needs to tell Owens to shut up, but what does he need to shut up about? Jason Garrett and the offensive system? Romo would be the biggest hypocrite ever if he told him that after what he said following the Eagles game.
The only one who can really tell Owens to stop doing sitdown interviews with Deion Sanders is Jerry Jones, and he’s obviously not doing that.
Re: He divided two locker rooms
Let’s just say for the moment that this is true. The assumption you are making when you then make the jump to “Owens has divided our locker room” is:
1. Owens divided locker rooms
2. Our locker room is divided
3. Therefore, Owens is the one who divided this locker room.
That’s a classic fallacy. You’re drawing a conclusion without actual proof.
So what is locker room division, anyway? I’m pretty sure all NFL locker rooms have some division in them. You’re not going to get a group of 53 men where everyone gets along.
With the 49ers, Kevan Barlow and Fred Beasley had a locally publicized fist-fight and Beasley insulted him in the press. Would you be shocked to learn that this never made ESPN? Sure, they weren’t as high profile players as Owens, but one was considered one of the game’s top young running backs, the other was a two-time all-pro.
The fans on this board should all know by now that the media sensationalizes things when it comes to Owens. Even if you can’t stand him and want him cut, for whatever reason, nobody in his/her right mind denies that they blow plenty of things out of proportion when it comes to “T.O.”
You’ve witnessed it first hand. Does it not then stand to reason that the same thing may have happened at his previous two stops?
I remember the whole Eagles fiasco. I remember how the story got about 90% of Sportscenter’s time when it was unfolding. It was absurd. There were people who really couldn’t care less, yet they were shoving this garbage down everyone’s throat as if Terrell Owens is the be all, end all of sports. What about the other 31 teams? What about the other major and minor sports that they supposedly cover?
And now I think back to Keyshawn Johnson being deactivated by Jon Gruden. Barely a blip on the radar. Why?
Keyshawn got some negative attention when he was playing in the media pressure cooker in New York, but once he was traded, we never heard another peep about him. Even in New York, the amount of coverage he got pales in comparison to what Owens gets for sneezing.
The problem is, they are obsessed to the point where they give him this constant outlet and he uses it.
Terrell Owens hasn’t done anything other players haven’t done before. He criticizes coaches? Clinton Portis received very little media coverage for slamming Jim Zorn on the radio in the middle of the season this year. And he went right after him personally; no tip-toeing around the actual person by blaming the “system.”
He criticized a teammate or two in the past? Dre Bly blasted Joey Harrington and blamed the Lions’ season and Mariucci’s firing squarely on him. Keyshawn Johnson (the same Keyshawn who was deactivated) constantly insulted Warren Sapp in the press. Those incidents got a fraction of the coverage Owens receives for blowing his nose. How many people besides me even remember these things?
He said Garcia is gay? How is it that you think word got around that Kordell Stewart was gay? It didn’t just appear out of thin air, you know.
Owens has been getting an insane amount of bad press as far back as 2000. This was before any of the stuff people frequently use these days to portray Owens as the ultimate sports villain ever transpired.
This was before the Werder article, before the Deion interview, before the Bill Parcells stuff. Before the Cowboys.
Before he was kicked off the Eagles after the McNabb/Favre thing in the Graham Bensinger interview. Before the suspension in training camp and situps on his driveway. Before the contract dispute and the “I wasn’t the guy who get tired in the Super Bowl” comment that started everything off. Before the Eagles, period.
This was before the Garcia/gay Playboy interview. Before the shouting at Greg Knapp on the sidelines and before the fallout with Garcia. Before the Sharpie celebration. Before the Steve Mariucci “buddy system” comment after the Bears game.
Do you remember what it was that kick started “T.O.” in 2000? It involved your team. I’m sure you remember it.
We won that game 41-24. A team pastor told the receivers during the walk through before the game that if they scored a touchdown, they should go to midfield and “look up and praise God through the hole in the roof.” Owens and J.J. Stokes both took this to heart and decided that if either of them scored, they would do just that.
As fate had it, Owens scored twice and went to midfield twice, sparking one of the biggest controversies in the history of professional sports. People assumed he had done it just to show off, and perceived it as “the ultimate me-me-me thing in sports.”
Which leads me to…
Re: People don’t change
I saw a post by I believe it was DallasEast saying that Terrell Owens is the exact same person he’s always been. I refer you to the following from an article written in 1998:
http://vault.sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vau...799/2/index.htm
Does that sound like the Terrell Owens of today to you?
Owens obviously changed because of the situation. That’s the thing about people making judgments--they overestimate the effect a person’s personality has on the situation and don’t take the situation into consideration.
Did Owens just all of a sudden start behaving different and doing all of these supposedly egregious things because his personality changed?
Or, was it instead a combination of him behaving somewhat different because of the way he was being portrayed and scrutinized, and him being so scrutinized that commonplace, minor things were being exaggerated to epic proportions?
I’ll leave you to figure that out.
