A few little things that add up to a lot for 2009

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as bad as things turned out you look at next year and what the upsides are and we have not even had the draft or FA-
1. ST will improve--new highly regarded coach coupled with McBriar return, Keith and Pat W, maybe Polk too.....field position improvement the most notable improvement from 2008
2. return of Felix , a big play threat that defenses need to always watch out for.
3. improvement of Roy W as receiver...This is a must, he either steps up his game or Ray Sherman needs to earn his pay
4. Tony's committment to up his game and make the fans proud once again
5. Jason G looking at a better game plan that defenses would not be able to figure out so easily (see Ed Reed and Raylu comments)
6. return of Kosier to the line....it baffles me why he gets so much criticism but all the experts always talk about how the line suffered when he went down.
7. moving Henry to safety and Hamlin to SS, give Scandrick and Jenkins the playing time to earn there pay ...and we either draft or sign a ballhawking FS
 

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malbis030347;2599462 said:
as bad as things turned out you look at next year and what the upsides are and we have not even had the draft or FA-
1. ST will improve--new highly regarded coach coupled with McBriar return, Keith and Pat W, maybe Polk too.....field position improvement the most notable improvement from 2008
2. return of Felix , a big play threat that defenses need to always watch out for.
3. improvement of Roy W as receiver...This is a must, he either steps up his game or Ray Sherman needs to earn his pay
4. Tony's committment to up his game and make the fans proud once again
5. Jason G looking at a better game plan that defenses would not be able to figure out so easily (see Ed Reed and Raylu comments)
6. return of Kosier to the line....it baffles me why he gets so much criticism but all the experts always talk about how the line suffered when he went down.
7. moving Henry to safety and Hamlin to SS, give Scandrick and Jenkins the playing time to earn there pay ...and we either draft or sign a ballhawking FS

Good post
 

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Little changes will not make this team better.

We need to change course. We have players that seriously don't give a damn. Making it worse, Jerry has locked them up long-term. Making it even more worse, Jerry seems to be taking personnel cues from Dan Snyder.

A new ST coach and hollow claims of 'doing better' aren't going to fix that.
 

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malbis030347;2599462 said:
as bad as things turned out you look at next year and what the upsides are and we have not even had the draft or FA-
1. ST will improve--new highly regarded coach coupled with McBriar return, Keith and Pat W, maybe Polk too.....field position improvement the most notable improvement from 2008
2. return of Felix , a big play threat that defenses need to always watch out for.
3. improvement of Roy W as receiver...This is a must, he either steps up his game or Ray Sherman needs to earn his pay
4. Tony's committment to up his game and make the fans proud once again
5. Jason G looking at a better game plan that defenses would not be able to figure out so easily (see Ed Reed and Raylu comments)
6. return of Kosier to the line....it baffles me why he gets so much criticism but all the experts always talk about how the line suffered when he went down.
7. moving Henry to safety and Hamlin to SS, give Scandrick and Jenkins the playing time to earn there pay ...and we either draft or sign a ballhawking FS

I'm not sure on P Watkins.

BP was right, the way he tackles is going to put him out of the game.

I think a lot depends if we re-sign K Davis and whether R Williams is still on the team next season.
 

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Eddie;2599474 said:
None of these are guarantees.
But all of which are more likely than not to happen and to contribute to the team being better.

AbeBeta;2599488 said:
Little changes will not make this team better.

We need to change course. We have players that seriously don't give a damn. Making it worse, Jerry has locked them up long-term. Making it even more worse, Jerry seems to be taking personnel cues from Dan Snyder.

A new ST coach and hollow claims of 'doing better' aren't going to fix that.
I disagree entirely. This team isn't far from being a great team. Hell, it isn't far from being a 13-3 team -- we all know that. It's not at all a situation where you blow it up and rebuild. If you did that you'd never get anywhere.
 

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Afew little things that add up to a lot for 2009

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as bad as things turned out you look at next year and what the upsides are and we have not even had the draft or FA-
1. ST will improve--new highly regarded coach coupled with McBriar return, Keith and Pat W, maybe Polk too.....field position improvement the most notable improvement from 2008

This will be improved, but you forgot one thing. Good ole wade doesnt believe in special teams to commit starting players to special teams. And as long as good ole wade does that, the special teams wont improve, Granted some, due to the special teams coach, but you have to have starting players that play. Look at the cowboys past history, bill bates, darren woodson, darren smith, kelvin martin.
2. return of Felix , a big play threat that defenses need to always watch out for.

Again, this is speculation, and i do hope felix does come back, because turf toe injuries are hard to overcome after surgery.
3. improvement of Roy W as receiver...This is a must, he either steps up his game or Ray Sherman needs to earn his pay

Yep time for roy williams at wr and ray sherman and jason garrett to earn their pay.
4. Tony's committment to up his game and make the fans proud once again

This is the biggest issue of this team, till tony romo forgets all of this papa ratzy, and going to vacation on big time playoff game, and learns he has to have some control over fumbles and interceptions, while getting in players faces and telling them to do it. Just like in the playoff game against the giants, and a few games this year, romo was hollering at the offensive linemen, come on, lets go. Well that doesnt do it, if he has to kick the offensive linemens rear ends, then so be it. Thats what all great super bowl QBs do, they are the general in charge and have their presence known that they are the leader, and the other players shut up and play.
5. Jason G looking at a better game plan that defenses would not be able to figure out so easily (see Ed Reed and Raylu comments)

I once was high on jason garrett, but if he doesnt start challenging himself, good ole wade on having too much of a simple game plan on offense, then this team will go no where.
6. return of Kosier to the line....it baffles me why he gets so much criticism but all the experts always talk about how the line suffered when he went down.

Yes, Kosier is important, and the cowboys must draft another big offensive linemen to help out, while the other guy we traded for, cant think of his name now, but he must play too.
7. moving Henry to safety and Hamlin to SS, give Scandrick and Jenkins the playing time to earn there pay ...and we either draft or sign a ballhawking FS

I dont know if any of you saw it or not, but to me, and hearing what henry said, he didnt want to be moved to safety, well, tough. He is paid alot of money to play, and its for the good of the team. Besides, Henry is getting to old to play cb. Its time for henry to put up or shut up too.

I used to be like you too, optimsitic about the team, but I have grown up, some of these dallas cowboy players could care less about winning a championship. Some of them are content just to get a pay check. When after a game like against the eagles in phily, and after the game, on the plane ride back, a bunch of cowboy players were hoooping it up, laughing and joking. That is the problem with this team, they just got humaliated in front of national tv, and they are laughing it up on national tv and on the plane.

That to me isnt players that care about winning.

You saw how good ole wade said changes are coming, well my answer to that is this. Is brad johnson still with the team? Is bobby barbie doll carpenter still with the team? Is Proctor whom cant block still with the team? Is bollinger whom couldnt cut it at QB for the vikes still with the team?

Right there that should tell you about this team, when a QB with the vikings, that couldnt beat out 2 qbs there, is still with this team, then nothing has changed.

All the big hot air by good ole wade phillips is what it is, BIG HOT AIR!

Have you seen a defensive coordinator hired yet, no. All the while we waited and waited and waited, no defensive coordiantor, while the other good coaches were being hired. So, nothing has changed, just some big big hot air from fat lazy wade phillips.

He is a yes man to jerry jones, and that is why he is still the head coach.
 

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Yeah, sure, everything is conditional. You never know. Here's my version of your list of good news, in descending order of probability:
1) Improved special teams. I think this is almost a sure thing.
2) Roy W (receiver) more productive. I think this is likely because he'll have a full training camp with Romo and the bar is low.
3) Kosier's healthy return. I'm sure he'll be back; I'm not sure how much good it will do (my guess is that it will help.)
4) Felix's healthy return. No reason to think it won't happen but I'll believe it when I see it.
5) Secondary. What a mess. Something will happen but will it work?
6) Tony gets serious. I'm not betting on it.
7) Garrett's play calling gets better. Not betting on this either.
 

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theogt;2599607 said:
I disagree entirely. This team isn't far from being a great team. Hell, it isn't far from being a 13-3 team -- we all know that. It's not at all a situation where you blow it up and rebuild. If you did that you'd never get anywhere.

No you don't blow it up. But you have to excise a few of the things that don't make the team go. Whether that is dumping TO, firing Garrett (or Wade), or deciding to replace someone like Flo or Hamlin who didn't play up to their contracts, is up for debate. But one thing is very clear. This is a team that for whatever reason doesn't play up to their abilities
 

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AbeBeta;2599904 said:
No you don't blow it up. But you have to excise a few of the things that don't make the team go. Whether that is dumping TO, firing Garrett (or Wade), or deciding to replace someone like Flo or Hamlin who didn't play up to their contracts, is up for debate. But one thing is very clear. This is a team that for whatever reason doesn't play up to their abilities
I think I may be one of the most critical of Garrett, but c'mon, it's not like even I think he HAS to go in order for us to succeed. We can succeed with Wade, Garrett, and TO on the team. We've done it before. Get healthy, get on the same page, and go from there.
 

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theogt;2599916 said:
I think I may be one of the most critical of Garrett, but c'mon, it's not like even I think he HAS to go in order for us to succeed. We can succeed with Wade, Garrett, and TO on the team. We've done it before. Get healthy, get on the same page, and go from there.

Yes. We have done it before. But situations that go bad - e.g., players not giving a crap -- rarely get on the same page, especially once they have been paid. You don't have to blow it up but you have to make some hard choices and simply hoping to "get on the same page" is likely not enough.
 

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Eddie;2599474 said:
None of these are guarantees.

They never are. And every year after another lost season, we always end up saying the same stuff regarding the Cowboys. I like the optimism, but can't help but think that at the same time, we could possibly get worse than what we were this year.

We can't even handle our own division, much less a team outside our division like the Super Bowl bound Cardinals. :rolleyes:
 

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AbeBeta;2599488 said:
Little changes will not make this team better.

We need to change course. We have players that seriously don't give a damn. Making it worse, Jerry has locked them up long-term. Making it even more worse, Jerry seems to be taking personnel cues from Dan Snyder.

A new ST coach and hollow claims of 'doing better' aren't going to fix that.


I agree with the changing course part.

Not this part. All the players that have been paid do care. I believe they do.

I agree with last sentence. Wade and Romo talking about doing better is HOLLOW. We were right in the thick of it the last two year and we blew chunks.
 

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malbis030347;2599462 said:
as bad as things turned out you look at next year and what the upsides are and we have not even had the draft or FA-
1. ST will improve--new highly regarded coach coupled with McBriar return, Keith and Pat W, maybe Polk too.....field position improvement the most notable improvement from 2008
2. return of Felix , a big play threat that defenses need to always watch out for.
3. improvement of Roy W as receiver...This is a must, he either steps up his game or Ray Sherman needs to earn his pay
4. Tony's committment to up his game and make the fans proud once again
5. Jason G looking at a better game plan that defenses would not be able to figure out so easily (see Ed Reed and Raylu comments)
6. return of Kosier to the line....it baffles me why he gets so much criticism but all the experts always talk about how the line suffered when he went down.
7. moving Henry to safety and Hamlin to SS, give Scandrick and Jenkins the playing time to earn there pay ...and we either draft or sign a ballhawking FS

I agree with your points and another I would add is that another year of the defense together in Wade's system should have them playing closer and executing better. The defense looked great at times this year, especially after Wade took over.
 

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malbis030347;2599462 said:
as bad as things turned out you look at next year and what the upsides are and we have not even had the draft or FA-
1. ST will improve--new highly regarded coach coupled with McBriar return, Keith and Pat W, maybe Polk too.....field position improvement the most notable improvement from 2008
2. return of Felix , a big play threat that defenses need to always watch out for.
3. improvement of Roy W as receiver...This is a must, he either steps up his game or Ray Sherman needs to earn his pay
4. Tony's committment to up his game and make the fans proud once again
5. Jason G looking at a better game plan that defenses would not be able to figure out so easily (see Ed Reed and Raylu comments)
6. return of Kosier to the line....it baffles me why he gets so much criticism but all the experts always talk about how the line suffered when he went down.
7. moving Henry to safety and Hamlin to SS, give Scandrick and Jenkins the playing time to earn there pay ...and we either draft or sign a ballhawking FS

Like your list and your optimisim.

As I see it.

1) Garrett needs to do a better job and I believe he will. He needs to look at 2007 and 2008. What worked, what didn't and most importantly WHY! What did defenses do to us differently in 2008.

2) R. Williams and Bennett. These players need to be worked into the mix in a big way. This is what can and should get us back to 2007 production/effeciency levels. The more passes that go Bennett and Williams, the better the chances are of Witten and 35yr old Owens being healthy for the stretch run. 2TE, 2WR, 1RB, should be our base offense in 2009.

3) Felix Jones. He's the real wildcard for 2009. I want a min of 15 touches a game for him. His speed and explosiveness can put us over the top.

There's a lot to be optimistic for in 2009. One thing I think most overlook is how often truely talented teams like ours rebound in a big way off miserable underperforming seasons.
What often happens is you get a team good enough to win 13 games, acting, working and striving to improve like a 9 win team. That's a nice combination.
 

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sonnyboy;2600434 said:
3) Felix Jones. He's the real wildcard for 2009. I want a min of 15 touches a game for him. His speed and explosiveness can put us over the top.

I think roughly 10 carries/screens for the 3 amigos would give a good change in technique and help keep all 3 fresh and motivated.

besides I like all 3 equally. :p:
 

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AbeBeta;2599488 said:
Little changes will not make this team better.

We need to change course. We have players that seriously don't give a damn
. Making it worse, Jerry has locked them up long-term. Making it even more worse, Jerry seems to be taking personnel cues from Dan Snyder.

A new ST coach and hollow claims of 'doing better' aren't going to fix that.

I'm sorry, I dont buy into that theory one bit.
 

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malbis030347;2599462 said:
as bad as things turned out you look at next year and what the upsides are and we have not even had the draft or FA-
1. ST will improve--new highly regarded coach coupled with McBriar return, Keith and Pat W, maybe Polk too.....field position improvement the most notable improvement from 2008
2. return of Felix , a big play threat that defenses need to always watch out for.
3. improvement of Roy W as receiver...This is a must, he either steps up his game or Ray Sherman needs to earn his pay
4. Tony's committment to up his game and make the fans proud once again
5. Jason G looking at a better game plan that defenses would not be able to figure out so easily (see Ed Reed and Raylu comments)
6. return of Kosier to the line....it baffles me why he gets so much criticism but all the experts always talk about how the line suffered when he went down.
7. moving Henry to safety and Hamlin to SS, give Scandrick and Jenkins the playing time to earn there pay ...and we either draft or sign a ballhawking FS

Excellent post!!!!!:clap2:
 

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NextGenBoys;2600562 said:
I'm sorry, I dont buy into that theory one bit.

so you don't think we have player that don't give a crap?

A team that really wants it and cares doesn't go flat in a win and in situation.
 
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