A few more Dak stats

[Tusan_Homichi]

I'm prepared for incoming fire(actually I'm leaving)

The 46 and 85 Bears would be exposed these days.
Like Marino did.

Well, yeah. The speed and strength of players nowadays is quite a bit different. Plus, offenses would just torch that style of defense and started to even back then.

 

[lkelly]

Since when did Romo become a good deep ball thrower? I have a hard time remembering many long balls that he put right in the money. Dallas rarely goes deep and they don't exactly have blazing speed on the edges. Big Ben seems to hit more bombs in some games than Dallas does in a season.

I have plenty of faith that Dak can throw a pretty ball downfield. Just because it isn't in the game plan doesn't mean he can't or won't do it. I think they like moving the ball methodically while reducing the turnover potential. It seems to be working just fine. Andy Reid and now Doug Peterson take that approach and they have and will win games.

This Dak can't throw deep thing seems like a manufactured media thing to give buffoons like SAS something to bloviate about.

 

[JohnsKey19]

Dak's checking the ball down and making safe throws, so it stands to reason his completion percentage is high. He's doing a great job.

I would love for him to go to school on Romo and learn how and when to get the ball downfield. It would make the run game even better.

I don't believe he's checking the ball down at all. He's just staying within the 7-20 yd window, not all necessarily safe throws. Now i do agree that it would be nice to hit a few deep shots to pickup bigger chunks of yardage at times. But honestly, if that element is added to his game, he would literally be performing at an elite veteran QB level, which is a lot to ask of a guy 5 games removed from playing on Saturdays.

 

[dfense]

What? He's playing fantastic for a rookie. Incredible. But I want to see the ball get downfield. Romo can show him that.

Imagine if Prescott reaches Romo's level by 25 years old, instead of 30 like it took Romo.

Don't question the narrative man, are you crazy?

 

[jazzcat22]

So all records (even rookie records) are put into the HoF, and they put the rookies' jerseys in too?

I am sure the base hit Pete Rose got off of Eric Show on September 11, 1985. That ball is in the HOF. Breaking Ty Cobb's all time hit record.
But yet Pete is still being screwed out of being in the HOF.

If it is in there, then Pete should demand it back.

 

[WillieBeamen]

Since when did Romo become a good deep ball thrower? I have a hard time remembering many long balls that he put right in the money. Dallas rarely goes deep and they don't exactly have blazing speed on the edges. Big Ben seems to hit more bombs in some games than Dallas does in a season.

I have plenty of faith that Dak can throw a pretty ball downfield. Just because it isn't in the game plan doesn't mean he can't or won't do it. I think they like moving the ball methodically while reducing the turnover potential. It seems to be working just fine. Andy Reid and now Doug Peterson take that approach and they have and will win games.

This Dak can't throw deep thing seems like a manufactured media thing to give buffoons like SAS something to bloviate about.

No one said Romo is "great" at throwing the deep ball. The point is that he actually "will" throw deep. This will keep DCs and defenders guessing.

 

[erod]

I don't believe he's checking the ball down at all. He's just staying within the 7-20 yd window, not all necessarily safe throws. Now i do agree that it would be nice to hit a few deep shots to pickup bigger chunks of yardage at times. But honestly, if that element is added to his game, he would literally be performing at an elite veteran QB level, which is a lot to ask of a guy 5 games removed from playing on Saturdays.

Romo can teach him this quickly, but he's going to have to watch a bit.

RG3 did this, too, his rookie year. He never learned to play the pro game properly though. Same for Josh Freeman, Jake Plummer, Dante Culpepper, etc.

I want Dak to be another Tony Romo, not just an Alex Smith.

 

[erod]

Since when did Romo become a good deep ball thrower? I have a hard time remembering many long balls that he put right in the money. Dallas rarely goes deep and they don't exactly have blazing speed on the edges. Big Ben seems to hit more bombs in some games than Dallas does in a season.

I have plenty of faith that Dak can throw a pretty ball downfield. Just because it isn't in the game plan doesn't mean he can't or won't do it. I think they like moving the ball methodically while reducing the turnover potential. It seems to be working just fine. Andy Reid and now Doug Peterson take that approach and they have and will win games.

This Dak can't throw deep thing seems like a manufactured media thing to give buffoons like SAS something to bloviate about.

Are you new to Cowboys football?

Good gosh, Romo has hit tons of them.

 

[dfense]

I don't believe he's checking the ball down at all. He's just staying within the 7-20 yd window, not all necessarily safe throws. Now i do agree that it would be nice to hit a few deep shots to pickup bigger chunks of yardage at times. But honestly, if that element is added to his game, he would literally be performing at an elite veteran QB level, which is a lot to ask of a guy 5 games removed from playing on Saturdays.

I agree, I think the game plan for the offense early on was ball control, protect the defense. But the offense has been much more efficient than what they thought. They're just staying with what's working.

 

[CashMan]

Wut? Really? While also going 0-3 (in four games played) and avg 184 yds/gm, 738 yds total, and a whopping 2 TD's and 2 ints.

What's your point? Just completion percentage?

My point is, Dallas has the #1 rushing Offense, if Weeden was given that with his 72%, where would he of been.

I am not saying Dak is bad, he MIGHT be the future. But until we know, I don't think crowing him the next coming of a great QB is a smart thing to do.

I am starting to believe in the Romo should be the starter when he gets back.

 

[Trouty]

My point is, Dallas has the #1 rushing Offense, if Weeden was given that with his 72%, where would he of been.

I am not saying Dak is bad, he MIGHT be the future. But until we know, I don't think crowing him the next coming of a great QB is a smart thing to do.

I am starting to believe in the Romo should be the starter when he gets back.

Mmmmk, bub. Weeden compared to Dak. @Gabe, I found your arch rival.

(Oh, and Cash, I'm one of the biggest Romo homers on this site, but tone that **** comparison down, brody.)

 

[Hoov]

Dak's checking the ball down and making safe throws, so it stands to reason his completion percentage is high. He's doing a great job.

I would love for him to go to school on Romo and learn how and when to get the ball downfield. It would make the run game even better.

isnt his yards per pass as high or higher than Romo's usually is ?

 

[Gabe]

Mmmmk, bub. Weeden compared to Dak. @Gabe, I found your arch rival.

(Oh, and Cash, I'm one of the biggest Romo homers on this site, but tone that **** comparison down, brody.)

Obsessed.

 

[Trouty]

Obsessed.

Lmao!!! J/k bubba, had to get my dig in

 

[Super_Kazuya]

Are you new to Cowboys football?

Good gosh, Romo has hit tons of them.

People continue to think a deep pass is a 50 yard bomb. This is a deep pass:



Right now, with a QB who is on pace for 13 TDs and is dead last in deep pass attempts and completions by a mile, we have zero ability to generate offense outside of the red zone. We have to dink and dunk down the field every possession and pray we don't have a game where our unsustainable 3rd down % (which can be a fickle stat) doesn't drop.

To fit the ball between the safety and the cornerback like that, not a throw Dak has at the moment. The floating duck he almost underthrew to a wide open Beasley doesn't get it done in this spot. This play isn't even in the playbook provided to him by Garrett/Linehan.

I think the most telling stat I've seen on Dak is from the 538 piece. He's only attempted 34 passes while trailing in the second half of games this year, and none when trailing by more than four points.

 

[erod]

isnt his yards per pass as high or higher than Romo's usually is ?

That doesn't really tell much. You can throw a screen, and if it goes 95 yards for a touchdown, your average per pass goes WAY up. It is a good indicator that your hitting guys in stride that are open.

I'm talking about stretching out the defense with some deep seams and go routes. We really haven't even seen a back shoulder throw or anything over the top of the defender much at all.

Dak likes those middle routes to Beasley and Witten the most. That, and the rollouts to the tight ends. The wide guys are running some medium in routes and comebacks, and he's hitting those well, too.

 

[Gabe]

Has Dak made any plays like this at all? Be honest.

 

[erod]

People continue to think a deep pass is a 50 yard bomb. This is a deep pass:



Right now, with a QB who is on pace for 13 TDs and is dead last in deep pass attempts and completions by a mile, we have zero ability to generate offense outside of the red zone. We have to dink and dunk down the field every possession and pray we don't have a game where our unsustainable 3rd down % (which can be a fickle stat) doesn't drop.

To fit the ball between the safety and the cornerback like that, not a throw Dak has at the moment. The floating duck he almost underthrew to a wide open Beasley doesn't get it done in this spot. This play isn't even in the playbook provided to him by Garrett/Linehan.

I think the most telling stat I've seen on Dak is from the 538 piece. He's only attempted 34 passes while trailing in the second half of games this year, and none when trailing by more than four points.

Perfectly explained what I meant. Thanks.

 

[erod]

Has Dak made any plays like this at all? Be honest.

In the next decade, he will. I realize you're brand new to football and all.

 

[bsheeern]

Weeden was 72% completion percentage his last year in Dallas, just an FYI.

yea but what was his 3rd down or first down conversion rate?