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[Quarterback Coach]

How much did Jerry's being leveraged to his teeth in the new stadium (his legacy) really affect the coaching decision?

Could he afford (or was he willing enough) to dump Wade and/or Garrett, still paying them, and hire a Shannahan or Holmgren at 7 million plus per year?

These may be mutually exclusive, but someone raised the point to me yesterday and it may truly fit.

Opinions...

 

[DallasKnight]

If he had truly wanted/needed to make a change, he would have found a way to afford it. I can't believe for ONE instant that it would be otherwise.

 

[arglebargle]

One....Wade is on the last year of his contract. No cost there.

I think Wade stayed on partly because of the new stadium, and partly due to Jerry's loyalties. The real interesting, below the radar question is -- Who does Stephen think should be coaching in Dallas.....

Don't know what exactly he can afford, but some of those expensive guys come with some other issues. Shanahan would mostly likely blow up the offensive line. He goes for cut and zone blockers of a different type entirely. His hiring would probably lead to a down year or two before the team could reset. Lots of costs for picking up appropriate players.

Holmgren didn't impress me that much in Seattle. He and Shanahan both are awful personnel guys, with loads of bad choices in draft and signing, recent bad choices.

I personally think that Garrett will be relatively inexpensive to sign...

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

How much did Jerry's being leveraged to his teeth in the new stadium (his legacy) really affect the coaching decision?

Could he afford (or was he willing enough) to dump Wade and/or Garrett, still paying them, and hire a Shannahan or Holmgren at 7 million plus per year?

These may be mutually exclusive, but someone raised the point to me yesterday and it may truly fit.

Opinions...

I'll take this one, boys and yew won't be sorry.

First is a rule of the univese: An owner who builds a billion-dollar stadium is not going to be stopped by 5 mil per year. Or 8 mil.
And Jerra gets what he wants, except when he settled for Wade instead of ugh . . . Norvel Turner. But I digress, what a mess, I confess.

Jerra knows by now that he painted himself into a corner. When he says after a loss that this is not "acceptable" he probably means Wade.
Wade will be gone by the next day after the last game of the season unless he goes very deep into the playoffs. Merely getting into the playoffs with this stellar group of athletes is not enough in Jerra's mind.

What is Jerra looking at? I think he might looking directly at Cowherd -- if he kisses Jerra's ring. I think Cowher will. Cowher will look at this group of players and say, "duh, yeah, I want to be coach of the Dallas Cowboys."

And so this will come to pass, though he could devleop a crush on Gruden.

Cowher taking this group to the Super Bowl in 2011.

Something to Jerra that is worth more than 5 million. Or 8 or 9 mil.

 

[67CowboysFan]

How much did Jerry's being leveraged to his teeth in the new stadium (his legacy) really affect the coaching decision?

Could he afford (or was he willing enough) to dump Wade and/or Garrett, still paying them, and hire a Shannahan or Holmgren at 7 million plus per year?

These may be mutually exclusive, but someone raised the point to me yesterday and it may truly fit.

Opinions...

Jones is one of only 28 people on the list to increase their net worth this year in the down economy, the financial magazine said.
Jones' fortune was estimated at $1.8 billion, up 29 percent from $1.4 billion last year. He's now at No. 196, up from 355 a year ago.



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[tunahelper]

Maybe Jerry wants Wade because of his defensive skills? Personally I think keeping was the right decision and it will show as the season rolls on.

 

[Doomsay]

One....Wade is on the last year of his contract. No cost there.

Jerry would have to pay Wade's salary plus whomever he brought in this year. That was the point.

Jerry has done everything on the cheap this year - shed tons of salary and gone for K-mart priced FA's and draft picks. Not a coincidence, IMO.

 

[Four]

umm, isn't jerry still paying TO a bunch to play in Buffalo?

this entire premise is an incredible reach.

 

[Doomsay]

Jones is one of only 28 people on the list to increase their net worth this year in the down economy, the financial magazine said.
Jones' fortune was estimated at $1.8 billion, up 29 percent from $1.4 billion last year. He's now at No. 196, up from 355 a year ago.



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Doesn't mean that his coliseum isn't placing a cash flow pinch on him despite the rise in net worth.

 

[Doomsay]

umm, isn't jerry still paying TO a bunch to play in Buffalo?

this entire premise is an incredible reach.

Uh no, he's not paying him anything, which supports the premise if you think about it.

 

[Hostile]

It is a legit question. I honestly don't know. On the one hand he was willing to pay Dan Reeves to come here, so he must not be too handcuffed. I will say this, I highly doubt Jerry would ever be interested in Bill Cowher given the reports he wants to be the first 8 figure per year Head Coach.

Look at the recent success trend in the NFL. Young Head Coaches getting their first shot at a job as opposed to NFL retreads.

That is why I still believe Garrett is in line next and with this team.

 

[Rampage]

Jerry is a Billionaire. even with the new stadium he's still very wealthy and can afford plenty of stuff including high priced coaches with no problem. That had nothing to do with his decision.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Jerry is a Billionaire. even with the new stadium he's still very wealthy and can afford plenty of stuff including high priced coaches with no problem. That had nothing to do with his decision.

A gazillionaire. He got more money than Norway.

 

[ABQcowboyJR]

I think that Garret is next in line. I would love to see Cowher as the coach but we've held on to Jason for a reason. In the end Wade is a coordinator. Wish we could keep him and jason as coordinators. Bring back Peyton!!!

 

[Rampage]

A gazillionaire. He got more money than Norway.

Gimme knows whats up

 

[UnoDallas]

It is a legit question. I honestly don't know. On the one hand he was willing to pay Dan Reeves to come here, so he must not be too handcuffed. I will say this, I highly doubt Jerry would ever be interested in Bill Cowher given the reports he wants to be the first 8 figure per year Head Coach.

Look at the recent success trend int he NFL. Young Head Coaches getting their first shot at a job as opposed to NFL retreads.

That is why I still believe Garrett is in line next and with this team.

plus the records of the old guys are Shanny Holmen. Guden are the same as Wade - so if thats the case why not keep Wade - you won't have bowup the O line for Shanny offense - and Holmgren who knows what he wants

but this is what I do if I was Jerry

I hire Garrett as HC if not then
Ron Rivera
Jim Harbaugh

keep Herring as DC
Dat to LB coach
keep Sheman as WR coach
keep Peete as RB coach
maybe keep Grantham
maybe keep Houck as line coach because the line has come around a little since hes been here
maybe Ken Zampese is in his seventh season as Bengals quarterbacks coach. He has guided the development of Carson Palmer into one of the NFL's elite passers and team leaders. as - OC

fire Wade - Campo - Maxie - Wade Wilson - Wesley Phillips - Juraszek
Juraszek cause there some reason our guys are getting tired at the end of a game
please fire Wade Wilson because I think he held Troy back as a QB when Troy was QB



Gruden

02 - 12 -4 Dungy's team
03 - 7-9
04 - 5- 11
05 - 11-5
06 - 4-12
07 - 9-7
08 - 9-7
Shanahan

02 – 8 -8
03 - 9-7
04 – 10-6
05 – 13-3
06 – 9-7
07 – 7-9
08 – 8 -8

Holmgren

02 – 7-9
03 – 10-6
04 - 9 -7
05 - 13-3
06 – 9-7
07 – 10 -6
08 – 4 – 12

 

[mmohican29]

Maybe Jerry wants Wade because of his defensive skills? Personally I think keeping was the right decision and it will show as the season rolls on.

Folks the problem is not Wade Phillips. The problem is our players who treat Wade like a puppet. These players are fewer and fewer as we go year to year.

Personally, I think the best thing Jerry could do is RE-SIGN WADE for two more years and offer Wade a permanent job as DC at the end of that run if he is willing, part of this agreement being the team is then turned over to Garrett.

The team is BUILT around Wade's 3-4. The offense is Jason Garrett's offense.

You blow that up and you are nowhere in a hurry in a system with players that don't fit in either.

It has to be Wade, and the sooner the players realize it is Wade's team- the better off the Cowboys will be.

 

[Beast_from_East]

I know alot of you guys are having wet dreams over Cowher or Holmgren or Gruden or Shanny coming to Dallas, but you guys need to take a cold shower and come to grips with the reality that Garrett is going to be the HC next year.

Just look at the situation. We are the number one rushing team in the entire NFL and barring a monumental collaspe, we should end the year in the top 10 in total offense. This means Garrett is going nowhere, you dont fire your offensive coordinator if you have a top 10 offense, that would be freaking ********.

Now lets look at the defense. We are currently ranked in the bottom 10 in total yards allowed. We were 32 before the Panther game and I think we improved to 26th if I remember correctly. Now we can continue to improve, but it is going to be very hard for those numbers to move significantly higher.

So we have a situation that is developing where the offense is top 10 and the defense is bottom 10. This means Wade is out the door obviously, but what coach is going to be willing to come in here and let Garrett run the offense all by himself??? None, so the obviously answer is to make Garrett the Head Coach and let him hire a 3-4 guy to run the defense. It is really the only logical way for us to get rid of Wade and keep Garrett at the same time.

 

[Sarge]

this entire premise is an incredible reach.

Indeed.

 

[dbair1967]

How much did Jerry's being leveraged to his teeth in the new stadium (his legacy) really affect the coaching decision?

Could he afford (or was he willing enough) to dump Wade and/or Garrett, still paying them, and hire a Shannahan or Holmgren at 7 million plus per year?

These may be mutually exclusive, but someone raised the point to me yesterday and it may truly fit.

Opinions...

I've heard it said that had something to do with it, but I seriously doubt it did. He has tons of money. Throwing a few extra mils away on coaches wouldnt really impact that. We still traded for and signed Roy Williams. We signed some other free agents. We are about to pay Ware the biggest contract in team history. So he has cash.

I think I believe the reasoning he gave for keeping him. Doesnt mean it was right or that we all agree with it, but I do think he told the truth.