A lot of you are missing the point

[ShiningStar]

The debate is about Garrett, the only success Garrett has had here, and dont go looking for stats, you wont find it here. The only success Garrett truly has is a "culture of mediocrity where we accept this point of not getting over the hump" and its a shame. Now instead of fighting for going for a good season, we just accept the 8-8 seasons and one and done in the playoffs. This has got to change and it has to come from either Stephen or the miracle that Jerry has an ephiany which we all agree wont happen. Garrett was on the same sideline with Linehan and watched us neutralize the best RB in the league, our own. He stood on the same sideline with Rod looked him in the eye and said "guy come on, yo are hurting Rodgers with all this pushing and shoving, knock it off" Garrett looks at teh other teams weaknesses and says "lets not exploit it, wont make for a fair game" Im also sure Garrett was the HC who rested his players, got them in the mode for the playoffs and watched them come out making mistakes and being flat for a full half of the game. Lets just make sure to not hold him accountable because im sure he wasnt on the sidelines.

 

[MagicMan]

Yes, 7 out of 8 times on 3rd and less than 4, Dallas passed the ball and usually from an empty backfield. Let them off the hook.

 

[BotchedLobotomy]

I would feel better going into next season minus Linehan. They guy has never really bought into the running game throughout his career.

 

[jwooten15]

This isn't a prescott versus romo debate. This isn't a Jerry Jones debate. This isn't a Jason Garrett debate. This isn't even a spiking versus timeout debate.

The debate everyone should be talking about is throwing short passes on 3rd and shorts instead of running and why we stopped feeding EE. Granted, we were behind most of the game, however when we were in the position to utilize our strength as a running team we were passing. When the game was tied or about to be tied we should of had EE converting 1st downs. DP was great and almost single handley won the game. Anti DP/pro TR can say/believe what they want but those are the facts.

EE was rested for a month and had the same amount of carries, on average he had for the year. What was the point of resting him?

THANK YOU!

I was watching the game with my bro-in-law, and literally about 5 times we just shook our head when they made throw after throw on 3rd and short. It absolutely blows my mind how "cute" Linehan likes to get sometimes.

OF COURSE the defense knows you want to run it in that situation. But guess what? They still can't stop it. Couldn't stop the run all night. But nooooo. Let's throw it and get it batted down at the LOS and end up losing the game.

 

[tyke1doe]

This isn't a prescott versus romo debate. This isn't a Jerry Jones debate. This isn't a Jason Garrett debate. This isn't even a spiking versus timeout debate.

The debate everyone should be talking about is throwing short passes on 3rd and shorts instead of running and why we stopped feeding EE. Granted, we were behind most of the game, however when we were in the position to utilize our strength as a running team we were passing. When the game was tied or about to be tied we should of had EE converting 1st downs. DP was great and almost single handley won the game. Anti DP/pro TR can say/believe what they want but those are the facts.

EE was rested for a month and had the same amount of carries, on average he had for the year. What was the point of resting him?

I'd have no problems with passing on 3rd and 2 IF we didn't invest in our offensive line. I thought we were supposed to be the biggest and baddest offensive line in the league. You mean we can't block the defense for two yards?
You mean we can't put a full back in to block and let Zeke lean for two yards?

I don't want to hear anymore about this line being the best if it can't get Zeke two yards and if they coaches don't have the confidence in the line to pick up two measly yards.

 

[jwooten15]

I would feel better going into next season minus Linehan. They guy has never really bought into the running game throughout his career.

Agreed. It's like he was obligated to call runs it most of the time just because it works so well. But when we get in a tough spot, pass pass pass. It's infuriating to watch.

Zeke was running possessed on Sunday. He would have picked up the first down on pure will alone. But to not even give him the chance is unacceptable, and downright embarrassing.

 

[MikeT22]

Linehan is almost as pass happy as Garrett. Besides the 3rd and short passes we passed into the end zone three straight plays from the 15 in the final minute before halftime. At least 2 were with empty backfields. It was all or nothing. It's a constant with Garrett and Linehan and it ended up contributing to costing us a season.

 

[TheHerd]

We got down by 18 points and feeding Zeke on the ground was eating up time. We had to start throwing more and our chances of big play for a score are with the passing game. One big mistake we made was not throwing the ball more to Zeke to get him our in space. He only had once catch all day.

This is why I said 23 touches, and not carries, in my other thread. Though I still think 21-3 in the second quarter is too early to abandon Zeke as a runner, not using him as a primary receiver either is inexcusable.

The best talent we have, basically taken out of the game by our own staff.

 

[lukin2006]

This isn't a prescott versus romo debate. This isn't a Jerry Jones debate. This isn't a Jason Garrett debate. This isn't even a spiking versus timeout debate.

The debate everyone should be talking about is throwing short passes on 3rd and shorts instead of running and why we stopped feeding EE. Granted, we were behind most of the game, however when we were in the position to utilize our strength as a running team we were passing. When the game was tied or about to be tied we should of had EE converting 1st downs. DP was great and almost single handley won the game. Anti DP/pro TR can say/believe what they want but those are the facts.

EE was rested for a month and had the same amount of carries, on average he had for the year. What was the point of resting him?

It was just not a very well called game, that's why I'm not a fan of SL, our best weapon on offence is our O-line and Zeke ... 3rd and short we should be running way more, our o-line outweighed their d-line considerably, that first drive, passing on 3rd and 2, into double coverage, I really felt set the tone for the game...I think if we had just pounded the rock at them in that first drive and scored 7 the outcome would have been much different...smash mouth football is what should be the identity of this team, otherwise why spend 3 number 1 picks on offensive linemen and a 4th overall selection on a once in generation RB. The thing about Garrett that is disturbing to me is he was with cowboys when the wall of Dallas and Smith smash mouthed their way to 3 SB's. This team will not be winning any championships with JG as their head coach, in 6 1/2 years here, and with the exception of 2015 this team under his guidance has lost very winnable games that could have kept the season going...

 

[KJJ]

This is why I said 23 touches, and not carries, in my other thread. Though I still think 21-3 in the second quarter is too early to abandon Zeke as a runner, not using him as a primary receiver either is inexcusable.

The best talent we have, basically taken out of the game by our own staff.

Our D allowing the Packers 3 TD's on their first three possessions forced our hand some so to have any chance of getting back in the game we had to start throwing the ball more. Once we got down by 18 points, another Packers score would have made it extremely unlikely we could catch up with the way Rodgers was playing.

The running game uses a lot of time and we had to start getting the ball to Dez and our receivers in hopes of getting a quick score. Once you get down by 3 scores, the clock isn't in your favor for time consuming drives so you have to start passing the ball but it was clearly a mistake not getting Zeke involved in the passing game.

 

[ShiningStar]

Our D allowing the Packers 3 TD's on their first three possessions forced our hand some so to have any chance of getting back in the game we had to start throwing the ball more. Once we got down by 18 points, another Packers score would have made it extremely unlikely we could catch up with the way Rodgers was playing.

The running game uses a lot of time and we had to start getting the ball to Dez and our receivers in hopes of getting a quick score. Once you get down by 3 scores, the clock isn't in your favor for time consuming drives so you have to start passing the ball but it was clearly a mistake not getting Zeke involved in the passing game.

have you seen some of Zekes runs, even at the end when he was punishing them the team stopped it. So that doesnt fly either. Run, keep running and run some more.

 

[CowboyStar88]

This isn't a prescott versus romo debate. This isn't a Jerry Jones debate. This isn't a Jason Garrett debate. This isn't even a spiking versus timeout debate.

The debate everyone should be talking about is throwing short passes on 3rd and shorts instead of running and why we stopped feeding EE. Granted, we were behind most of the game, however when we were in the position to utilize our strength as a running team we were passing. When the game was tied or about to be tied we should of had EE converting 1st downs. DP was great and almost single handley won the game. Anti DP/pro TR can say/believe what they want but those are the facts.

EE was rested for a month and had the same amount of carries, on average he had for the year. What was the point of resting him?

The reason he was picked 4th overall

What an epic fail by this coaching staff. You drafted this kid for this sole reason and this is what you do. They deserved to lose. Idiots

 

[Grevus]

This isn't a prescott versus romo debate. This isn't a Jerry Jones debate. This isn't a Jason Garrett debate. This isn't even a spiking versus timeout debate.

The debate everyone should be talking about is throwing short passes on 3rd and shorts instead of running and why we stopped feeding EE. Granted, we were behind most of the game, however when we were in the position to utilize our strength as a running team we were passing. When the game was tied or about to be tied we should of had EE converting 1st downs. DP was great and almost single handley won the game. Anti DP/pro TR can say/believe what they want but those are the facts.

EE was rested for a month and had the same amount of carries, on average he had for the year. What was the point of resting him?

This isn't a prescott versus romo debate. This isn't a Jerry Jones debate. This isn't a Jason Garrett debate. This isn't even a spiking versus timeout debate.

The debate everyone should be talking about is throwing short passes on 3rd and shorts instead of running and why we stopped feeding EE. Granted, we were behind most of the game, however when we were in the position to utilize our strength as a running team we were passing. When the game was tied or about to be tied we should of had EE converting 1st downs. DP was great and almost single handley won the game. Anti DP/pro TR can say/believe what they want but those are the facts.

EE was rested for a month and had the same amount of carries, on average he had for the year. What was the point of resting him?

For the same stupid reason Seattle threw the ball at the goal line. Trying to outsmart the other team with something they wouldn't expect. Instead of just running it down their throats.

 

[btcutter]

We were down 21-0 against the rams in 2014, and we still kept feeding Murray. We won that game. You're absolutely right; they panicked.

Rogers >>>>>>>>>> Austin.

 

[KJJ]

have you seen some of Zekes runs, even at the end when he was punishing them the team stopped it. So that doesnt fly either. Run, keep running and run some more.

I get that but we were down by at least 14 points for most of the game, on the brink of being blowout and the running game uses a lot of clock. Despite 5.7 a carry by Zeke we had to start scoring quick because Rodgers was dicing us up. Had we stayed closer throughout the game we could have stuck with the running game but we had to start scoring to catch up and you catch up with the passing game. It was the passing game that brought us back with 3 TD's by Dak. We should have gotten the ball into Zeke's hands a lot in the passing game and it was a big mistake not doing so. He could have broken off a huge play out in space.

 

[ShiningStar]

I get that but we were down by at least 14 points for most of the game, on the brink of being blowout and the running game uses a lot of clock. Despite 5.7 a carry by Zeke we had to start scoring quick because Rodgers was dicing us up. Had we stayed closer throughout the game we could have stuck with the running game but we had to start scoring to catch up and you catch up with the passing game. It was the passing game that brought us back with 3 TD's by Dak. We should have gotten the ball into Zeke's hands a lot in the passing game and it was a big mistake not doing so. He could have broken off a huge play out in space.

yes but one thing happened beacuse we got away from what worked yet again. What got us to the playoffs was not what we did to rely on it and win. Even at the end with the running Zeke was pounding and he was pounding throughout the game. Would have been great to see it in action.

 

[links18]

We have been going empty set on second down in the red zone all season, not sure why anyone thought that was going to change.

 

[Jake]

This isn't a prescott versus romo debate. This isn't a Jerry Jones debate. This isn't a Jason Garrett debate. This isn't even a spiking versus timeout debate.

The debate everyone should be talking about is throwing short passes on 3rd and shorts instead of running and why we stopped feeding EE. Granted, we were behind most of the game, however when we were in the position to utilize our strength as a running team we were passing. When the game was tied or about to be tied we should of had EE converting 1st downs. DP was great and almost single handley won the game. Anti DP/pro TR can say/believe what they want but those are the facts.

EE was rested for a month and had the same amount of carries, on average he had for the year. What was the point of resting him?

Actually, yours is just one of many points rather than THE point.

I'm with you on the 3rd and short plays. It seems like if the amount to gain is more than a yard it's full on pass mode. I didn't understand it during the season, either. At least have your stud back in there to fake a run (or pose a threat of it), and when did it become impossible to run on 3rd and 2? Other teams do it, and they don't have our line and Zeke.

As for the number of carries, falling behind early by 18 played a part in it but he could've run on some of those 3rd down plays and got closer to 30 carries.

 

[DogFace]

We outsmarted ourselves brilliantly.

 

[cowboyfan4life2]

We were down 21-0 against the rams in 2014, and we still kept feeding Murray. We won that game. You're absolutely right; they panicked.

We were down 21-0 to a bad team with very little offense in an early regular season game, big difference between being down 18 to a hof qb in a playoff game.