A possible replacement for Ken Hamlin? - Oshiomogho Atogwe

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eightysiX;3275931 said:
oh but we can, there are only limitations. We can only sign one big FA, i think 5.5+ mil salary in the first year or something like that.

And referring back to the subject of this thread, if Atogwe was RELEASED by the Rams, the Boys could make a play for him... any released player will be fair game...

I'm not necessarily advocating such a move, merely pointing out that he'd be the type of player the Boys would allowed to sign if they wanted to...
 

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TheCount;3275971 said:
We have one. Mike Hamlin.
We don't know what we have in Mike Hamlin. Maybe he' good, maybe he isn't. But there's a reason he was a 5th round pick.
 

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Cover 2;3276333 said:
We don't know what we have in Mike Hamlin. Maybe he' good, maybe he isn't. But there's a reason he was a 5th round pick.

Didn't he drop in the draft due to injury? Coulda sworn that was the buzz on him during the draft. A solid player that would've gone higher if not for a knee injury ... I think.


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Analysis Positives: Rangy player with the frame to add an additional 10-15 pounds of mass. ... Quick to come up in run support. ... Willing to take on blocks to get to the action. ... Reliable tackler in the open field who flashes hitting ability. ... Wrap-up tackler who looks to punch or rip the ball out to create a turnover. ... Instinctive in coverage. Reads the quarterback's eyes and gets a good break on the ball due to his feel for the game. ... Natural hands for the interception. ... Competes for the ball and can time his leap to catch it at its highest point. ... Good vision and elusiveness with the ball in his hands. ... Cerebral player who lines up the Clemson defensive backfield and was voted a permanent team captain as a junior.

Negatives: Questionable straight-line speed. ... Much better with his eyes pointed toward the quarterback, as he lacks the deep speed most teams want as the deep safety. ... Reliable open-field tackler, but lacks bulk and explosive hitting ability to be an intimidator over the middle. ... Durability red flags: broke both feet in his career, missing three games in 2006 after breaking one against Boston College and undergoing postseason surgery after the 2007 season with a stress fracture in the other.

Injury Report 2006: Suffered a fifth metatarsal bone fracture in his left foot during fourth quarter action vs. Boston College (9/09), missing the next three games vs. Florida State (9/16), North Carolina (9/23) and Louisiana Tech (9/30).

2007: Left the Chick-fil-A Bowl with an undisclosed injury.

2009: Suffered a hamstring pull working out nine days prior to Pro Day (3/24).

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the DoNkEy PuNcH;3276430 said:
Didn't he drop in the draft due to injury? Coulda sworn that was the buzz on him during the draft. A solid player that would've gone higher if not for a knee injury ... I think.


UPDATE from NFLdraftscout.com:

Analysis Positives: Rangy player with the frame to add an additional 10-15 pounds of mass. ... Quick to come up in run support. ... Willing to take on blocks to get to the action. ... Reliable tackler in the open field who flashes hitting ability. ... Wrap-up tackler who looks to punch or rip the ball out to create a turnover. ... Instinctive in coverage. Reads the quarterback's eyes and gets a good break on the ball due to his feel for the game. ... Natural hands for the interception. ... Competes for the ball and can time his leap to catch it at its highest point. ... Good vision and elusiveness with the ball in his hands. ... Cerebral player who lines up the Clemson defensive backfield and was voted a permanent team captain as a junior.

Negatives: Questionable straight-line speed. ... Much better with his eyes pointed toward the quarterback, as he lacks the deep speed most teams want as the deep safety. ... Reliable open-field tackler, but lacks bulk and explosive hitting ability to be an intimidator over the middle. ... Durability red flags: broke both feet in his career, missing three games in 2006 after breaking one against Boston College and undergoing postseason surgery after the 2007 season with a stress fracture in the other.

Injury Report 2006: Suffered a fifth metatarsal bone fracture in his left foot during fourth quarter action vs. Boston College (9/09), missing the next three games vs. Florida State (9/16), North Carolina (9/23) and Louisiana Tech (9/30).

2007: Left the Chick-fil-A Bowl with an undisclosed injury.

2009: Suffered a hamstring pull working out nine days prior to Pro Day (3/24).

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So it sounds like he may be injury prone and has questionable speed. Not saying he won't be a good player, but if a safety fell to the 2nd round that was BPA I don't think we should pass up on him just because we don't know what we have in Mike Hamlin.
 

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Cover 2;3276631 said:
So it sounds like he may be injury prone and has questionable speed. Not saying he won't be a good player, but if a safety fell to the 2nd round that was BPA I don't think we should pass up on him just because we don't know what we have in Mike Hamlin.

are you talking about FS or SS?

because we could use an upgrade at both positions
 

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Cover 2;3276631 said:
So it sounds like he may be injury prone and has questionable speed. Not saying he won't be a good player, but if a safety fell to the 2nd round that was BPA I don't think we should pass up on him just because we don't know what we have in Mike Hamlin.

M. Hamlin is projected at SS so FS would still be a need.
 

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Bob Sacamano;3276766 said:
are you talking about FS or SS?

because we could use an upgrade at both positions
Either/or. I do think two safeties is a lot to take in one draft though. At least if you plan on both of them starting.
gmoney112;3276771 said:
M. Hamlin is projected at SS so FS would still be a need.
I just want the best safety period. Would M. Hamlin be a better SS than Sensabaugh? We don't know. Also would he be a better SS than Hamlin is a FS? We don't know. He was a rookie 5th rounder that hasn't really shown anything. I'm not saying he won't be good, but the odds are stacked against him. I'm just saying we shouldn't not look at upgrading his position if a steal were to fall to us. If there is no value in taking a SS I'm perfectly fine with seeing what he's got.
 

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Cover 2;3276333 said:
We don't know what we have in Mike Hamlin. Maybe he' good, maybe he isn't. But there's a reason he was a 5th round pick.

Only one way to find out.
 

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I don't like the lack of speed on the long plays. That's what bit our aces with RW31. I don't like the player's profile v. Hamlin's. I like what we've got.

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way to slow;
Oshiomogho Atogwe Grade: 3.63
Position: S
Class: Sr
School: Stanford
Conference: Pac-10
Ht., Wt.: 5-11, 219
40 Time: 4.62
Selected by: St. Louis Rams
Round 3, pick 2 (66 overall)
 

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I see a safety piling up statistics on the dirt worst team in the NFL. Maybe he truly is a good player, I don't really watch the Rams, but I wouldn't be begging the Cowboys to use any resources on him.
 
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