A question about the missed field goal from the niners game.

[Baileyneverfailey]

I meant to post about this at the time and forgot. When Bailey missed the chip shot, he kicked the ball from the 11 yard line. My understanding is that the ball would be turned over to the niners there at the 11. However, they started their drive from the 20 as if there was a touchback. Me, my dad, and my friend who watches games with us were all confused.

Is there a rule I don't know about that comes into play, because that's always been my understanding, that if you miss a FG the other team takes over at the spot of the kick?

 

[JBell]

I just looked at the play by play on nfl.com... and it appears they did start at their 20. Hm.

Good catch.. I think the refs screwed that one up.

 

[IAMKING]

I would think it would be the 11 or maybe because it went out of the endzone out of bounds it's considered a touchback?

 

[YosemiteSam]

I meant to post about this at the time and forgot. When Bailey missed the chip shot, he kicked the ball from the 11 yard line. My understanding is that the ball would be turned over to the niners there at the 11. However, they started their drive from the 20 as if there was a touchback. Me, my dad, and my friend who watches games with us were all confused.

Is there a rule I don't know about that comes into play, because that's always been my understanding, that if you miss a FG the other team takes over at the spot of the kick?

Actually, (if I remember correctly) you don't get it on the 11, you are supposed to get it from where the ball was kicked. So, if the ball was on the 11 yard line. The ball is usually kicked from 7 yards behind the line of scrimmage. So, the ball should have been placed on the 18 yard line, not the 20.

 

[jzcowboy]

Actually, (if I remember correctly) you don't get it on the 11, you are supposed to get it from where the ball was kicked. So, if the ball was on the 11 yard line. The ball is usually kicked from 7 yards behind the line of scrimmage. So, the ball should have been placed on the 18 yard line, not the 20.

The ball was kicked from the 11, making it a 21 yard FG, the line of scrimmage was the 4.

 

[kmd24]

Any time the spot of the kick is inside the opponent's twenty yard line, the ball is placed at the twenty following a miss.

http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/fieldgoal

All field goals attempted (kicker) and missed from beyond the 20-yard line will result in the defensive team taking possession of the ball at the spot of the kick. On any field goal attempted and missed where the spot of the kick is on or inside the 20-yard line, ball will revert to defensive team at the 20-yard line.

 

[peplaw06]

Actually, (if I remember correctly) you don't get it on the 11, you are supposed to get it from where the ball was kicked. So, if the ball was on the 11 yard line. The ball is usually kicked from 7 yards behind the line of scrimmage. So, the ball should have been placed on the 18 yard line, not the 20.

This is partially right. IIRC if the spot of the kick is inside the 20 though, the other team gets the ball on the 20.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I meant to post about this at the time and forgot. When Bailey missed the chip shot, he kicked the ball from the 11 yard line. My understanding is that the ball would be turned over to the niners there at the 11. However, they started their drive from the 20 as if there was a touchback. Me, my dad, and my friend who watches games with us were all confused.

Is there a rule I don't know about that comes into play, because that's always been my understanding, that if you miss a FG the other team takes over at the spot of the kick?

it is from the spot of the kick. not LOS.

 

[Doomsday]

This is partially right. IIRC if the spot of the kick is inside the 20 though, the other team gets the ball on the 20.

^ This

 

[Fmart322]

I meant to post about this at the time and forgot. When Bailey missed the chip shot, he kicked the ball from the 11 yard line. My understanding is that the ball would be turned over to the niners there at the 11. However, they started their drive from the 20 as if there was a touchback. Me, my dad, and my friend who watches games with us were all confused.

Is there a rule I don't know about that comes into play, because that's always been my understanding, that if you miss a FG the other team takes over at the spot of the kick?

I was wondering the same thing. Between the no PI call, missed FG then that I was thinking this wasn't going to be our day.

 

[YosemiteSam]

The ball was kicked from the 11, making it a 21 yard FG, the line of scrimmage was the 4.

Ahh yeah, that's right.

 

[flashback]

That's actually a fairly recent change. Back in the day, if you missed a FG the other team took over at the LOS. It was basically the same as going for it on 4th down and failing. But the league wanted to 'penalize' missed FGs, so they changed it from LOS to the spot, and threw in the bit about the 20 yard line. The fans like touchdowns, dontcha know.

 

[kmd24]

That's actually a fairly recent change. Back in the day, if you missed a FG the other team took over at the LOS. It was basically the same as going for it on 4th down and failing. But the league wanted to 'penalize' missed FGs, so they changed it from LOS to the spot, and threw in the bit about the 20 yard line. The fans like touchdowns, dontcha know.

No, the bit about the 20 yard line has been in there for quite a while longer than the rule about changing possession at the spot of the kick rather than the LOS. It's been that way as long as I can remember (1977).

 

[Meat-O-Rama]

Any time the spot of the kick is inside the opponent's twenty yard line, the ball is placed at the twenty following a miss.

http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/fieldgoal

This is fair. You should not miss field goals that short. If you do, you should be punished.

 

[Doomsday101]

I meant to post about this at the time and forgot. When Bailey missed the chip shot, he kicked the ball from the 11 yard line. My understanding is that the ball would be turned over to the niners there at the 11. However, they started their drive from the 20 as if there was a touchback. Me, my dad, and my friend who watches games with us were all confused.

Is there a rule I don't know about that comes into play, because that's always been my understanding, that if you miss a FG the other team takes over at the spot of the kick?

If you miss a kick inside the 20 the ball come out to the 20 yard line so if you kick from the 10 and miss it goes to the 20. kicks outside the 20 if you miss them the other team takes over from the spot where the kick was attempted

 

[Baileyneverfailey]

it is from the spot of the kick. not LOS.

I didn't say the LOS. The LOS was the 4 yard line. Bailey kicked it from the 11. That's why I thought they would've gotten it there.

Now it's cleared up because others have stated if you miss from inside the 20 they get it at the 20. I'm not sure I understand why, but at least now I know why it happened.

I guess I'm just not used to seeing kickers miss sub 30 yard field goals, haha.