A Quote By Tom Landry That I Think Describes This Team

[Hostile]

"When you want to win a game, you have to teach. When you lose a game, you have to learn."

It seems simple, but it is anything but. It is still beyond vital. If the Cowboys staff want to win a game they need to know the film. They need to spot the tendencies. They need to break down how to prepare on both sides of the ball. They have to teach this team.

If the Cowboys want to avoid future losses like Sunday Night, it falls on all of them, staff included to learn from that game. It isn't just the QB who has to improve their output and performance from last week. Every single player, even the ones who played well, has to do the same.

A man I really respect once told a story about going to an oxen pulling contest in New Hampshire. There was a cart loaded with 10,000 pounds and the oxen teams had to pull it 3 feet. If they did it, they added more weight.

A pair of big brindle oxen were the easy favorites to win this competition. They were huge, muscled, and sinewed. That team didn't even budge the load.

The pair that won it was a much smaller non-descript pair of oxen. When an old New Englander was asked to explain how the smaller, unmatched pair of oxen could move that load and the big matched pair could not he explained that the difference was in how the teams hit the yoke.

The big pair of oxen would hit the yoke with glancing blows. One ox would hit the yoke and force was expended in a glancing blow. When the other ox would hit the yoke the force was simply to add more torque. The load would not move.

But the small pair hit the yoke at the same time and the energy was spent forward. The load moved.

Now you're probably asking what this story has to do with the Cowboys. Simple, this team has to pull together. There has to be equal parts teaching and learning. They have to hit the yoke equal.

Tom Landry was so wise.

 

[TD-33]

Nice post Hostile you're on a roll.

 

[newlander]

He was wise and then some. Miss him big time. They haven't learned .......................YET that's quite obvious. But the maginificent part of the human mind and spirit is they are still capable. Will they learn and apply it under duress in a BIG GAME while Wade is coaching? Probably not. But that's why we watch because you never know. Other teams have had that label before and broke through in the end. Here's hoping..............

 

[CATCH17]

"When you want to win a game, you have to teach. When you lose a game, you have to learn."

It seems simple, but it is anything but. It is still beyond vital. If the Cowboys staff want to win a game they need to know the film. They need to spot the tendencies. They need to break down how to prepare on both sides of the ball. They have to teach this team.

If the Cowboys want to avoid future losses like Sunday Night, it falls on all of them, staff included to learn from that game. It isn't just the QB who has to improve their output and performance from last week. Every single player, even the ones who played well, has to do the same.



Tom Landry was so wise.

I hope they learn from it because they have been taught this lesson a ton of times.

Thats why everyone is so upset this week.

 

[casmith07]

I hope they learn from it because they have been taught this lesson a ton of times.

Thats why everyone is so upset this week.

Really? You work inside Valley Ranch?

Not trying to flame you, but lets not go making assumptions as armchair GMs. That kind of post really sounds like something Sal Paolantonio would say on ESPN.

 

[CATCH17]

Really? You work inside Valley Ranch?

Not trying to flame you, but lets not go making assumptions as armchair GMs. That kind of post really sounds like something Sal Paolantonio would say on ESPN.

What?

 

[Hostile]

I hope they learn from it because they have been taught this lesson a ton of times.

Thats why everyone is so upset this week.

This is incorrect. The 2009 team will not learn from the mistakes of previous teams. Coaches can, but players learn from their own mistakes and we are only 2 games into the season.

 

[cowboyjoe]

"When you want to win a game, you have to teach. When you lose a game, you have to learn."

It seems simple, but it is anything but. It is still beyond vital. If the Cowboys staff want to win a game they need to know the film. They need to spot the tendencies. They need to break down how to prepare on both sides of the ball. They have to teach this team.

If the Cowboys want to avoid future losses like Sunday Night, it falls on all of them, staff included to learn from that game. It isn't just the QB who has to improve their output and performance from last week. Every single player, even the ones who played well, has to do the same.

A man I really respect once told a story about going to an oxen pulling contest in New Hampshire. There was a cart loaded with 10,000 pounds and the oxen teams had to pull it 3 feet. If they did it, they added more weight.

A pair of big brindle oxen were the easy favorites to win this competition. They were huge, muscled, and sinewed. That team didn't even budge the load.

The pair that won it was a much smaller non-descript pair of oxen. When an old New Englander was asked to explain how the smaller, unmatched pair of oxen could move that load and the big matched pair could not he explained that the difference was in how the teams hit the yoke.

The big pair of oxen would hit the yoke with glancing blows. One ox would hit the yoke and force was expended in a glancing blow. When the other ox would hit the yoke the force was simply to add more torque. The load would not move.

But the small pair hit the yoke at the same time and the energy was spent forward. The load moved.

Now you're probably asking what this story has to do with the Cowboys. Simple, this team has to pull together. There has to be equal parts teaching and learning. They have to hit the yoke equal.

Tom Landry was so wise.

exactly hostile;
it all starts with something that wade said last year;
we lost on defense, offense and special teams because we played badly, but we also got outcoached too.

when your head coach doesnt run enough blitzes in preseason because he didnt want to get the players hurt, thats on him. Then when the head coch miss manages the game at the end to save some time, possibly if the giants had scored, the cowboys would have had time to score too. If you remember the giants milked the clock right at the end and supposedly players were hollering at wade near the end of the game to call a time out. Wade said something like the refs didnt call it.

Wade must game plan better, realize his opposing team better and like parcells said, cover all angles of the game, that includes the last 2 minutes of the game.

Then like you said players must pull together and demand all players pull their own weight.

And jerry jones must demand that the coaches do a better job too of coaching the players, because obviously the run defense blitz wasnt ready in first game and the pass defense wasnt ready in the 2nd game.

Like Ken Hamlin running right by the running back on a blitz, what was he thinking?

Newman not turning around on a pass play, he knows better than that. Too many players looked lost on defense sunday night.

 

[cowboyjoe]

Like I mentioned in another post hostile about the first interception that was returned for a td. Romo audibled, then antonio pierce audibled, when pierce did he turned around to the defense with his back to our offense. A full 4 to 5 seconds Hostile. To me, right there should have been some play in where we snapped the ball right quick.
The middle of the field was wide open for at least 10 to 16 yards when pierce had his back to our offense, he wouldnt have been set to repel a blocker coming at him, and could have been a big first down instead of the turnover for a td.

To me, you should have covered every possible thing that could happen onto the field and be ready.

Just like the alley oop floater pass romo threw, he didnt account for the safety but bennett was wide open in the flat, for another possible first down, and we should have kept running if the pass play wasnt there.

This team should have done alot better in preparation, but again, im not an avid fan of good ole wade.

 

[StarWiz2]

Excellent post! And at the same time very depressing. Tom Landry is gone, and we're left with Wade Phillips who quite obviously can't coach his way out of a paperbag. Romo's QB coach, well, what QB coach? Wade Wilson? (see Wade Phillips above)

Romo does the same bad thing fairly consistently. He's the classic chuck 'n ' duck QB. So far this year, he's on track to throw 32 interceptions if he simply follows a game pattern of one int, followed by 3. I always thought one int was too many per game. Keep this up and he'll be named the other teams MVP.

I honestly think Romo truly believes what he says when he takes responsibility for his poor play. He says all the right things to a point. But that point is crucial because I also believe he's being very poorly coached, and the preparation he used to do under Parcells, doesn't exist anymore. So, he just looks lost in games. Some call it the beaten down look. I call it, the I don't know wth I'm doing look. That's on the coaches, which is why I'm not as down on Romo as others. He's still got the talent, and the moxie. But this year could ruin him, if his inconsistent play continues and Jones doesn't get rid of these inept coaches or at least hire one that can help Romo.

Garrett's not the answer, at least teaching Romo the finer points of QB. Let's face it, he was a career third stringer in my opinion. In other words, awful. Phillips is strictly a defensive coach. Or was, until this year when he found himself with two jobs. (an aside. JJ and SJ are either idiots, or they're trying to cut expenses because the cost of building Jetson Stadium in a down economy came back to bite them in the rear)

Ok, so now, who's left for Romo is learn from? Did anybody ever see this Wade Wilson play? I did. He was an awful, stat-building QB, with much less moxie than Romo and just as mistake prone. So, what's he doing here?

It boggles my mind what Jones and Son have done to this team in just three years, post Parcells. And I was ready for Parcell's retirement just like everybody else.

But I was not surprised by Monday's outcome. And I won't be surprised if they lose or win on Monday. But you just know there's another derailment coming.

You only have to read Hostile's post to know why.

 

[goliadmike]

This is incorrect. The 2009 team will not learn from the mistakes of previous teams. Coaches can, but players learn from their own mistakes and we are only 2 games into the season.

That is a great quote from Landry Hos, but I have to disagree with this post. While true each team from year to year is different. Our veterans individually have to learn from mistakes from previous years. They have to recognize those mistakes, correct them, and pass that knowledge on to their teammates to help avoid those mistakes we seem to keep making.

 

[Hostile]

That is a great quote from Landry Hos, but I have to disagree with this post. While true each team from year to year is different. Our veterans individually have to learn from mistakes from previous years. They have to recognize those mistakes, correct them, and pass that knowledge on to their teammates to help avoid those mistakes we seem to keep making.

Veterans can, but take for instance the pass Terry Glenn dropped against Seattle in 2006. How did that situation teach the rest of the team anything? It really doesn't.

The loss in 2008 to the Eagles, to the end the season doesn't really teach this team anything because there are all new players. The personnel is not the same so the lessons do not transfer.

 

[THUMPER]

"When you want to win a game, you have to teach. When you lose a game, you have to learn."

It seems simple, but it is anything but. It is still beyond vital. If the Cowboys staff want to win a game they need to know the film. They need to spot the tendencies. They need to break down how to prepare on both sides of the ball. They have to teach this team.

If the Cowboys want to avoid future losses like Sunday Night, it falls on all of them, staff included to learn from that game. It isn't just the QB who has to improve their output and performance from last week. Every single player, even the ones who played well, has to do the same.

A man I really respect once told a story about going to an oxen pulling contest in New Hampshire. There was a cart loaded with 10,000 pounds and the oxen teams had to pull it 3 feet. If they did it, they added more weight.

A pair of big brindle oxen were the easy favorites to win this competition. They were huge, muscled, and sinewed. That team didn't even budge the load.

The pair that won it was a much smaller non-descript pair of oxen. When an old New Englander was asked to explain how the smaller, unmatched pair of oxen could move that load and the big matched pair could not he explained that the difference was in how the teams hit the yoke.

The big pair of oxen would hit the yoke with glancing blows. One ox would hit the yoke and force was expended in a glancing blow. When the other ox would hit the yoke the force was simply to add more torque. The load would not move.

But the small pair hit the yoke at the same time and the energy was spent forward. The load moved.

Now you're probably asking what this story has to do with the Cowboys. Simple, this team has to pull together. There has to be equal parts teaching and learning. They have to hit the yoke equal.

Tom Landry was so wise.

I remember that several players over the year commented about what great condition Landry was in even into his early 60s. George Allen once said that he wished that he & Landry could meet in the middle of the field and go at it. I always wished that too because Landry would have killed Allen.

 

[goliadmike]

Veterans can, but take for instance the pass Terry Glenn dropped against Seattle in 2006. How did that situation teach the rest of the team anything? It really doesn't.

The loss in 2008 to the Eagles, to the end the season doesn't really teach this team anything because there are all new players. The personnel is not the same so the lessons do not transfer.

Alright Hos, you can list several examples of where players screwed up that are no longer on the team and where fluke plays occurred that make you say what the ****, but I can list several examples of where players have screwed up and should have learned lessons from those screw ups.

In the Seattle playoff game, Romo should have learned about protecting the football near his own goal line, but he didn't learn that lesson. I wonder if he mentions anything about protecting the ball when they are in the huddle of the shadows of his own end-zone. Does he make a mental note to be more careful with his throws in that position? I don't think Tony has learned that lesson, for example in the Giant game on Sunday night, in the first quarter 3rd and 10 on our own 24. The play where Pierce called off the blitz and Tony didn't have time to adjust. Why not throw the ball away? he was not under that much pressure he had to know they were in a zone.

 

[cowboyjoe]

"When you want to win a game, you have to teach. When you lose a game, you have to learn."

It seems simple, but it is anything but. It is still beyond vital. If the Cowboys staff want to win a game they need to know the film. They need to spot the tendencies. They need to break down how to prepare on both sides of the ball. They have to teach this team.

If the Cowboys want to avoid future losses like Sunday Night, it falls on all of them, staff included to learn from that game. It isn't just the QB who has to improve their output and performance from last week. Every single player, even the ones who played well, has to do the same.

A man I really respect once told a story about going to an oxen pulling contest in New Hampshire. There was a cart loaded with 10,000 pounds and the oxen teams had to pull it 3 feet. If they did it, they added more weight.

A pair of big brindle oxen were the easy favorites to win this competition. They were huge, muscled, and sinewed. That team didn't even budge the load.

The pair that won it was a much smaller non-descript pair of oxen. When an old New Englander was asked to explain how the smaller, unmatched pair of oxen could move that load and the big matched pair could not he explained that the difference was in how the teams hit the yoke.

The big pair of oxen would hit the yoke with glancing blows. One ox would hit the yoke and force was expended in a glancing blow. When the other ox would hit the yoke the force was simply to add more torque. The load would not move.

But the small pair hit the yoke at the same time and the energy was spent forward. The load moved.

Now you're probably asking what this story has to do with the Cowboys. Simple, this team has to pull together. There has to be equal parts teaching and learning. They have to hit the yoke equal.

Tom Landry was so wise.

thats something that to me wade still hasnt learned yet, he is still playing catch up on defense now, we had to fix our run defense after week 1, now we have to fix our pass defense;

 

[cowboyjoe]

i even remember wade saying more than twice last year, we got outcoached

 

[SLATEmosphere]

Veterans can, but take for instance the pass Terry Glenn dropped against Seattle in 2006. How did that situation teach the rest of the team anything? It really doesn't.

The loss in 2008 to the Eagles, to the end the season doesn't really teach this team anything because there are all new players. The personnel is not the same so the lessons do not transfer.

So Romo doesn't learn from his past mistakes? You'd think after the 6th or 7th game of him playing like crap he'd actually improve. He still makes the same mistakes as he did last year and in 07. Terry Glenn or not. HE is still making the mistakes.

The thing with Romo is he rarely has a decent game. He either gives us an extreme high or an extreme low. His extreme lows cost games.

Although a ton of blame goes on the coaches also. Like you said "all pull together".

 

[SLATEmosphere]

i even remember wade saying more than twice last year, we got outcoached

Is that really surprising? It's probably alot more.

 

[cowboyjoe]

So Romo doesn't learn from his past mistakes? You'd think after the 6th or 7th game of him playing like crap he'd actually improve. He still makes the same mistakes as he did last year and in 07. Terry Glenn or not. HE is still making the mistakes.

The thing with Romo is he rarely has a decent game. He either gives us an extreme high or an extreme low. His extreme lows cost games.

Although a ton of blame goes on the coaches also. Like you said "all pull together".

slate dont give up on romo yet, wait till about mid season
romo has played 41 starts, eli when he started winning was at 50 games

give it some time, it takes nfl experience to play in the nfl, your reads, recognizing defenses

i honestly think that the tide was turned in this game against the giants even though we lost
in that game we scored right before halftime and we scored right at the end of the game
something that the giants did to us in the 2nd game in 2007 and the playoff game

now its up to romo to mature and get some experience in recognizing defenses, at the same time, garrett must have something ready for when antonio pierce audibles like he did, when pierece audibled, he turned around wiht his back to our offense a full 4 to 5 seconds, right there should be some kind of fire pass right quick or a quick handoff to the rb right up the old gut where pierce is with his back to us;

if you look at the film, you will see the middle of the field is wide open when pierce turns around and walks 2 to 3 steps backwards to change audibles

romo must be ready

gurode must see that too

 

[cowboyjoe]

Is that really surprising? It's probably alot more.

it is, i was just trying to be nice to wade alittle