A smart move to save cap space

[Bobhaze]

Take the past 3 years for both Dallas and Philadelphia and compare both records and contracts/roster and prove where direction and status actually rests here and now.

Last 3 years:

• Philly : Has a Lombardi, 2 SB appearances, 2 NFC championships and a total of 6 playoff wins.
• Dallas: one wild card win.

That the comparison you want?

 

[CCBoy]

and then in 2 years, he will hold out and say he needs to be paid "Market Value." isnt this the way it works... Zach Martin anyone?

Some of the pride is still a sense of looking after the player. Even Emmitt moved on as well.

 

[fivetwos]

It's the way they think about signing players early. They don't feel the need to rush for the reasons you state, also because they want to keep their options open as long as possible.

Not sure why everyone on this board cares how much players make or when we sign them. It isn't the reason we don't sign FA BTW - don't let the Jones bros trick you into thinking they couldn't sign FA is they wanted to. It doesn't materially matter. Yet everyone talks about it all the time on this board.

I think you’re very right here.

They would not spend the delta on improving the team with proven free agents, and some figure that’s where the saving would go.

Personally I don’t care if Prescott counts 60m toward the cap or 50, it’s not going to matter.

And yeah, even so, they could find the cap room to do whatever they want, they just don’t want to

 

[Bobhaze]

Minus the spelling issues, this is spot on and the way the Jones think of it BTW.
You can say argue that hey are wrong but it's a perfectly valid way of thinking.

Not sure the “Jones way of thinking” has worked out for us the last 25-30 years.

 

[CCBoy]

Last 3 years:

• Philly : Has a Lombardi, 2 SB appearances, 2 NFC championships and a total of 6 playoff wins.
• Dallas: one wild card win.

That the comparison you want?

That is your preference.


How come there are not two consecutive, even NFC East wins?

You say they played a very good Super Bowl game this past year, and I will agree with that.



But where again is the other Lombardi and a current dynasty bath at?


You touched not roster or cost comparisons.



Over the past 9 seasons, Dallas has won 4 of the past 9 seasons as well as 2 of the past 4.

• 2024: Philadelphia Eagles (14–3)
• 2023: Dallas Cowboys (12–5)
• 2022: Philadelphia Eagles (14–3)
• 2021: Dallas Cowboys (12–5)
• 2020: Washington Football Team (7–9)
• 2019: Philadelphia Eagles (9–7)
• 2018: Dallas Cowboys (10–6)
• 2017: Philadelphia Eagles (13–3)
• 2016: Dallas Cowboys (13–3)

Think in a first year staff, they can return to 12 wins.

I don't agree yet on consecutive years...

 

[Chasing6]

I’m afraid logic and doing what’s best for the team and the salary cap are all foreign concepts to our beloved fuhrer.

100% correct, which means they are not trying to win a SB. They are happy and content with winning the Revenue game.

They just want to be good enough each year to keep the fans engaged, so the milk continues to come in each year.

If and when the team starts to fall below the rim, they will occasionally make a splash move like Pickens this season.

 

[CCBoy]

Not sure the “Jones way of thinking” has worked out for us the last 25-30 years.

Buy a new calendar...your's is out of date and you expect current pictures to dominate pictures of sport.

I don't measure attitude for team snapshots and analysis. I'm a Texan and just experienced a devastating flood.

 

[gtb1943]

That is your preference.


How come there are not two consecutive, even NFC East wins?

You say they played a very good Super Bowl game this past year, and I will agree with that.



But where again is the other Lombardi and a current dynasty bath at?


You touched not roster or cost comparisons.



Over the past 9 seasons, Dallas has won 4 of the past 9 seasons as well as 2 of the past 4.

• 2024: Philadelphia Eagles (14–3)
• 2023: Dallas Cowboys (12–5)
• 2022: Philadelphia Eagles (14–3)
• 2021: Dallas Cowboys (12–5)
• 2020: Washington Football Team (7–9)
• 2019: Philadelphia Eagles (9–7)
• 2018: Dallas Cowboys (10–6)
• 2017: Philadelphia Eagles (13–3)
• 2016: Dallas Cowboys (13–3)

Think in a first year staff, they can return to 12 wins.

I don't agree yet on consecutive years...

Participation trophies is all you care about

 

[Chasing6]

However, it has worked out tremendously well for the Jones'. Which proves they don't need to win.

 

[zrinkill]

Last 3 years:

• Philly : Has a Lombardi, 2 SB appearances, 2 NFC championships and a total of 6 playoff wins.
• Dallas: one wild card win.

That the comparison you want?

I mean this just destroys that guys argument ..... they have more playoff wins in the last 3 years than we have had in the last 3 decades.

I mean really ........ think about that?

 

[blueblood70]

As the Micah Parsons contract negotiations drag on and on, I am reminded of what a great FO would be doing now. Of course they should have signed Parsons early in the spring because it would have freed up more cap space to sign other impactful players. That ship unfortunately has sailed in this off-season.

But there is still time on a very impactful player they should start negotiations NOW to extend a new contract. He is IMO the second best player on this roster. Extend him now and save future cap space: That player is TYLER SMITH.

Why sign Tyler Smith now? He has another year on his rookie deal. Here are the reasons:

• By extending him now, they can lock up TS at 2025 prices, saving future money and cap space. What Smith is worth now will be way cheaper than he will demand the next year.
• Smith just turned 24. Locking him up now ensures he’s here for the duration of his best years.
• Smith and his agent (like most NFL players and agents) usually like early contract extensions because it protects and guarantees the player a good payday before a potential injury could end a career.
• Finally - if the Cowboys wait again, it will not only cost more, but further hamstring their cap flexibility in the future.

Tyler Smith is the second most talented player on this team. Getting him extended now would save millions down the road. It makes perfect sense. Which is why it probably won’t happen here.

Look you're wrong about Parsons doesn't matter if he would assign in March or today they had about 30 million in cap space and it's just sitting there unused therefore they weren't going to use it regardless if they signed him or not But sure Tyler Smith that would be smart But come on they're not going to do it that'll be next off season drama here about how Jerry should have signed him early and we're just going to keep having this same vicious circle of nonsense because Jerry's not going to change the way he's doing things but this offseason is different than last offseason they had plenty of money with a lot of restructuring and all the other signs I believe they have close to 30 million that's just been sitting out there all off season and they just refuse to use it so Parsons not being signed did not change what's going to happen in 2025 IMHO

 

[blueblood70]

Why keep any good players.

With that mindset, might as well trade all our picks away too.

Rebuild plan for 2030. Then, when that gets here, trade them all away for 2035

Yeah that's the thing they've already went down the rabbit hole so that now they have to sign Parsons this decision like you said and I know some of it was being facetious would be not signing lamb which started thee other dominoes to fall now you had to sign Prescott and then that you've signed other players since and now your parsons on the block and now you brought over George Pickens it's too late if you were going to get on that rebuild path,

You had to make that decision last offseason it just seemed like that's the way they were gonna go and change their mind at the last minute.... I would have been OK with that but now you have to sign Parsons but if you were going to do this you would have not signed Prescott or Lamb seek trade for both of them last offseason along with trading digs and OSA and maybe even put tyler smith on the block.

It would have been perfect timing it would have made sense on why they didn't do anything in the offseason but once they signed Lamb we knew Prescott was next but now we know with the others that have been signed including George Pickens and Osa that Parsons will be a Cowboy...

 

[blueblood70]

I’ve heard that Tyler Smith and his reps are waiting for the Chiefs’ Trey Smith to set the top of the guard market.

Trey Smith is franchise tagged and there’s an upcoming deadline for reaching terms on an extension (July 14th maybe?).

Word is that he and the Chiefs are close on a deal, so that could get talks started between the Cowboys and Tyler Smith.

Say it ain't so are you saying the Kansas City Chiefs didn't take advantage of signing one of their players late and use the franchise tag on a very good player and should have just signed them early to save money......hmmm ​

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News flash for everyone who keeps posting about Jerry he's not the only one that did this they did this with Jamar Chase Trey Higgins other guys around the league that threatened holdouts that didn't show up for training camp not everybody signs their players early....​

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A lot of it has to do with the agents and the players themselves like you said are waiting for other dominoes to fall to make their bag bigger they act like this is all on Jerry and yes Jerry deserves all the criticism but Jerry doesn't want to pay more sometimes there's other factors that are involved in these players not signing It's called greed from the other two thirds..​

 

[zrinkill]

Why keep any good players.

With that mindset, might as well trade all our picks away too.

Rebuild plan for 2030. Then, when that gets here, trade them all away for 2035

I agree with this ....... but I will say the only bright side of pushing draft pics further and further back ....... would be there would be less of a chance Jerry is still around to screw it up.

 

[blueblood70]

As the Micah Parsons contract negotiations drag on and on, I am reminded of what a great FO would be doing now. Of course they should have signed Parsons early in the spring because it would have freed up more cap space to sign other impactful players. That ship unfortunately has sailed in this off-season.

But there is still time on a very impactful player they should start negotiations NOW to extend a new contract. He is IMO the second best player on this roster. Extend him now and save future cap space: That player is TYLER SMITH.

Why sign Tyler Smith now? He has another year on his rookie deal. Here are the reasons:

• By extending him now, they can lock up TS at 2025 prices, saving future money and cap space. What Smith is worth now will be way cheaper than he will demand the next year.
• Smith just turned 24. Locking him up now ensures he’s here for the duration of his best years.
• Smith and his agent (like most NFL players and agents) usually like early contract extensions because it protects and guarantees the player a good payday before a potential injury could end a career.
• Finally - if the Cowboys wait again, it will not only cost more, but further hamstring their cap flexibility in the future.

Tyler Smith is the second most talented player on this team. Getting him extended now would save millions down the road. It makes perfect sense. Which is why it probably won’t happen here.

Like I said why do you just leave Parsons out of this knowing this information this isn't last offseason where they just burned themselves like they were going to go a different direction, maybe blow the team up and then at the last minute freaked out signed lamb, and then knew they had to sign Dak and now they're all getting signed this offseason is different ,I already said it my other post now I'm proving it...

How does Parsons make this offseason better it doesn't matter March or today or next week it doesn't matter this is their cap space right now they could have made more moves already they chose not to spend it..

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The Dallas Cowboys currently have approximately $32.1 million in salary cap space, as of the latest figures from Spotrac.com. This is after accounting for various transactions, including contract restructures and trades.

Here's a more detailed breakdown:

• Total Cap Liabilities: The Cowboys have total cap liabilities of $311,392,177.
  
  
• Top 51 Cap Space: The top 51 players on the roster account for $244,442,776 of the cap.
  
  
• Team Cap Space: This leaves the Cowboys with $32,108,682 in available cap space according to Over The Cap.
  
  
• Effective Cap Space: Dallas also has $34,367,535 in effective cap space, which is the projected amount after signing at least 51 players and the rookie class according to The Landry Hat.
  
  
• Key Players: Several players significantly impact the cap, including Dak Prescott (with a $50,518,430 cap hit after restructure), Micah Parsons ($24,007,000), and CeeDee Lamb ($15,332,353) according to The Landry Hat.
  
  
• Potential for More Space: The Cowboys can further increase their cap space by restructuring contracts (like with Dak Prescott and CeeDee Lamb) or potentially making cuts or trades says The Landry Hat.

 

[blueblood70]

As the Micah Parsons contract negotiations drag on and on, I am reminded of what a great FO would be doing now. Of course they should have signed Parsons early in the spring because it would have freed up more cap space to sign other impactful players. That ship unfortunately has sailed in this off-season.

But there is still time on a very impactful player they should start negotiations NOW to extend a new contract. He is IMO the second best player on this roster. Extend him now and save future cap space: That player is TYLER SMITH.

Why sign Tyler Smith now? He has another year on his rookie deal. Here are the reasons:

• By extending him now, they can lock up TS at 2025 prices, saving future money and cap space. What Smith is worth now will be way cheaper than he will demand the next year.
• Smith just turned 24. Locking him up now ensures he’s here for the duration of his best years.
• Smith and his agent (like most NFL players and agents) usually like early contract extensions because it protects and guarantees the player a good payday before a potential injury could end a career.
• Finally - if the Cowboys wait again, it will not only cost more, but further hamstring their cap flexibility in the future.

Tyler Smith is the second most talented player on this team. Getting him extended now would save millions down the road. It makes perfect sense. Which is why it probably won’t happen here.

Again Cowboys had plenty of cap space and they're not spending it..

I don't know why the seven teams in front of them with even more cap space are not spending it, you might want to get on them about not using their extra money,

but the Cowboys are number eight, they have like $33 million to work with ,and they're not spending it, so how is signing Parsons going to help this offseason, if they're not going to spend it anyway...

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap

So here's the deal, Yes sign players early ,it might help some off seasons for other teams, for Jerry even if he has it he doesn't typically spend it ,

So this is a moot point like others are saying you're driving yourself crazy because nothing's going to change..

we keep telling people to stop talking about Jerry, because it's just a waste of time, it's a waste of headspace,

it's annoying but especially like this you had to start off with Parsons and Parsons not signing it has not changed offseason one bit....

 

[zrinkill]

Why do you keep quoting the same post over and over?

 

[CCBoy]

Again Cowboys had plenty of cap space and they're not spending it..

I don't know why the seven teams in front of them with even more cap space are not spending it, you might want to get on them about not using their extra money,

but the Cowboys are number eight, they have like $33 million to work with ,and they're not spending it, so how is signing Parsons going to help this offseason, if they're not going to spend it anyway...

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap

So here's the deal, Yes sign players early ,it might help some off seasons for other teams, for Jerry even if he has it he doesn't typically spend it ,

So this is a moot point like others are saying you're driving yourself crazy because nothing's going to change..

we keep telling people to stop talking about Jerry, because it's just a waste of time, it's a waste of headspace,

it's annoying but especially like this you had to start off with Parsons and Parsons not signing it has not changed offseason one bit....

They may do it the old fashioned way of putting it all on the line and walking the talk. No games mushrooming. That again puts it in discipline and on the carpet. That Jerry knows well.

 

[CCBoy]

Why do you keep quoting the same post over and over?

What is your beef? Some football omitted item not seen to another's value in a disciplined and objective approach.

Not setting your guidelines as a standard to compare, leaves out technique and organizational effects to being arbitrary.

There is then no right way to do the wrong thing. Joy is this fan's motivation. I don't have to be President of class.

 

[CCBoy]

Again Cowboys had plenty of cap space and they're not spending it..

I don't know why the seven teams in front of them with even more cap space are not spending it, you might want to get on them about not using their extra money,

but the Cowboys are number eight, they have like $33 million to work with ,and they're not spending it, so how is signing Parsons going to help this offseason, if they're not going to spend it anyway...

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap

So here's the deal, Yes sign players early ,it might help some off seasons for other teams, for Jerry even if he has it he doesn't typically spend it ,

So this is a moot point like others are saying you're driving yourself crazy because nothing's going to change..

we keep telling people to stop talking about Jerry, because it's just a waste of time, it's a waste of headspace,

it's annoying but especially like this you had to start off with Parsons and Parsons not signing it has not changed offseason one bit....

...and there is still additional space.