Abdul Carter/Jalon Walker modern chess piece defenders?

[Bigdog]

Carter is a guy who I would want in this draft. Imagine him and Micah coming off the edge. Unfortunately he will not make it to our pick especially after tonight’s performance and he was only at 85%

 

[RonWashington]

Id say Overshown is more of a blitzer than a chess peice.

Those types of players are nice to have, but we need a much more solid foundation on the DL

The LB room on the Cowboys is scary thin . Liufau and ….? Is Kendrick’s coming back ?
Nick Vigil is not a 17 game starter . Buddy Johnson hardly played or made a dent .

A LB like a Walker or a Campbell from Bama would add a piece to the puzzle .

 

[reddyuta]

The LB room on the Cowboys is scary thin . Liufau and ….? Is Kendrick’s coming back ?
Nick Vigil is not a 17 game starter . Buddy Johnson hardly played or made a dent .

A LB like a Walker or a Campbell from Bama would add a piece to the puzzle .

i will be mightily pissed if we draft Walker and told him to play LB,he is the 2nd best pass rusher in the draft.

 

[reddyuta]

Dane Brugler

@dpbrugler
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Top-2 pass rushers in the draft

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I agree 100% and if Walker aces the Combine he will easily go well above 12.

 

[stinkface]

Problem with Carr is he appears to weigh 25 pounds less then Micah. He is gonna wear down quick. Elite for sure, but he is going to take a pounding.

 

[RonWashington]

i will be mightily pissed if we draft Walker and told him to play LB,he is the 2nd best pass rusher in the draft.

LB / Edge hybrid . Whatever LB drafted has to be a run support as well as Rush the passer contributor.

 

[cnuball21]

Carter is a stud and clear cut Edge 1.

Walker is a tweener that’s lack of size / length as an Edge worries me. Not a big fan at 12.

 

[reddyuta]

Carter is a stud and clear cut Edge 1.

Walker is a tweener that’s lack of size / length as an Edge worries me. Not a big fan at 12.

HEIGHT: 6'3" WEIGHT: 252
HEIGHT: 6'2" WEIGHT: 245.

 

[darthseinfeld]

Carter is a stud and clear cut Edge 1.

Walker is a tweener that’s lack of size / length as an Edge worries me. Not a big fan at 12.

If we draft him that high he needs to be more Anthony Barr and less Bruce Irvin. How good of an off ball LB is he? Barr was pretty good as a LB and able to stick his hand in the dirt

 

[cnuball21]

HEIGHT: 6'3" WEIGHT: 252
HEIGHT: 6'2" WEIGHT: 245.

Carters entire season of tape is full
time as an Edge showcasing his power and punch against the run.

Walkers does not.

 

[cnuball21]

If we draft him that high he needs to be more Anthony Barr and less Bruce Irvin. How good of an off ball LB is he? Barr was pretty good as a LB and able to stick his hand in the dirt

Medicare as off ball LBr…

 

[reddyuta]

Carters entire season of tape is full
time as an Edge showcasing his power and punch against the run.

Walkers does not.

thats because of Georgia's rotation policy on the Dline,many previous 1st RD picks from Georgia didnt play a lot of snaps.Walker on a similar arc of Micah where both didnt play DE a lot in their final season.

 

[Dalmations202]

JMO -- (Plan A) If Graham or Jeanty (provided you see him as a generational back) are already gone -- trade down a little and pick up a pick in the 90-100 range.
Draft JWalker in round one and pick up Grant, DWalker, or Walter Nolen in round 2 --- whichever falls.
Use pick 76 (3rd rounder) to pick up a bell cow running back, even if he isn't the homerun guy. Just a guy that can carry the rock with good vision.
Use the 90-100 pick on a MLB. There are 3 of them that look good to me on paper....Lander Barton, Jamon Dumas-Johnson, and David Walker that I think could end up being good Mikes.
Resign Golston and Osa if possible.

Find a DC that is more innovative. That can use both 3-4 and 4-3 traits, since you will in general be in a nickel most of the time.

JWalker/Parsons as the bookend OLB/DE/9T --- (both could rush the passer or cover backs/TE, or move to Sam or Will in a 4-3 front and rush/play from there)
If you get Grant -- NT, or DWalker -- NT/3T, or Walter Nolen -- 3/5T
Justin Rogers --NT, Mazi -- NT/3/5T , Osa(?) -- 3/5T, Golston(?) -- 5T/DE
SWilliams -- OLB/DE, Kneeland -- DE/5T, Tank (?) -- DE/5T

Lots of options. Size -- yes. Speed -- yes.

Then you would only need 2 legit ILB. You have Liufau, Clark with Overshown eventually, and you drafted one of the 4th rounders to be that thumper Mike.

2-3 corners which need some ball hawking skills and a safeties with zone coverage and thumper skills would make you pretty legit.

At least it seems to me like you would be better off with this defense, than the one that has Hooker and Wilson playing man coverage on TE's.

 

[atlantacowboy]

Both are likely to be gone by #12. Carter for sure. I'd move up for Carter and trade Micah

 

[stilltheguru]

Maybe I'm wrong but walker looks much bigger than Carter. I'm surprised people think Carter is bigger

 

[StuckMojo]

Carter looks smaller than Micah. Not sure Carter is 252lbs.

 

[reddyuta]

Carter looks smaller than Micah. Not sure Carter is 252lbs.

yeah college weights and heights should be taken with a grain of salt.

 

[cnuball21]

thats because of Georgia's rotation policy on the Dline,many previous 1st RD picks from Georgia didnt play a lot of snaps.Walker on a similar arc of Micah where both didnt play DE a lot in their final season.

It’s not just a snap issue…it’s a percentage of snaps issue.

He split time between LBr and Edge and most of the time he was playing Edge he was just rushing the passer.

 

[INCowboysFan]

If Carter would slip to 9 or 10, i'd be on the phones working to trade up in a heartbeat. He is Micha 2.0 and would help take this pass rush to scary levels.

 

[stinkface]

yeah college weights and heights should be taken with a grain of salt.

Agree. I bet he is like 240 lbs. He does not appear to be near as big as Micah.