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I had a friend tell me that we are now the NFC favorites at 9-1.
3rd overall behind Indy and New England. I just wanted to throw
this out there since the draft is coming up.

A side note. I would be happy with Lawson or Carpenter...
 

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The favorite is 9-1? No way...... favorites are usually up in the 4-1 range.
 

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According to another site we're tied with Seattle as 4-1 odds.
 

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None of that seems right, I think its a bit optimistic for us and the Colts choked in "their" year and have since lost Edge. Meanwhile, NE has lost some more of its core with a big loss at kicker, they'll be better simply by avoiding the crushing injuries they had last year but to list them as the top favorite seems too much. What about Pitt?
 

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Cowboy from New York said:
None of that seems right, I think its a bit optimistic for us and the Colts choked in "their" year and have since lost Edge. Meanwhile, NE has lost some more of its core with a big loss at kicker, they'll be better simply by avoiding the crushing injuries they had last year but to list them as the top favorite seems too much. What about Pitt?
They're just predictions by guys that are really good at making predictions.
 

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CactusCowboy said:
WHY? We did not even make the playoffs last year......

Because it's not about last year, it's about this year. I'd trust Vegas oddsmakers over most of the guys on ESPN. Vegas has a lot of money riding on all their decisions regarding odds. They research a ton. This bodes well for us if they think we're 4-1.
 

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CactusCowboy said:
WHY? We did not even make the playoffs last year......
Why? We were on the cusp last year.

Deficiencies:
Kicker - Fixed.
OL - Fixed.

Added talent:
LB corps - check.
Top-shelf WR - check.
Experience in 3-4 and our young talent - check.

To me, and I perhaps may be biased, it seems that we are a logical choice.
 

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theogt said:
Why? We were on the cusp last year.

Deficiencies:
Kicker - Fixed.
OL - Fixed.

Added talent:
LB corps - check.
Top-shelf WR - check.
Experience in 3-4 and our young talent - check.

To me, and I perhaps may be biased, it seems that we are a logical choice.

That explains it...:hammer:
 

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Maybe it's just me, but that's a lot to wager on TO and Vanderjagt.

The oddsmakers seem to be underrating some of the leaderhsip we've lost. Glover, LA, Dat, Key, and Campbell.

Yeah, we've replaced most of them, but are the replacements guaranteed upgrades? You gotta prove chemistry before I grant it.
 

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theogt said:
Why? We were on the cusp last year.

Deficiencies:
Kicker - Fixed.
OL - Fixed.

Added talent:
LB corps - check.
Top-shelf WR - check.
Experience in 3-4 and our young talent - check.

To me, and I perhaps may be biased, it seems that we are a logical choice.

You're giving a lot of credit to the o-line you haven't seen play a down yet. Flo coming back from blown knee(he should be alright), Kozier whom we know little about, Undetermined starting center(both candidates with flaws in their game), Rivera was subpar last year and who knows what he brings this year, and, the winner of the Fabini/Petitty sweepstakes. Sorry, I can't see that being 'fixed'. I say its still a big question mark. Sorry to burst anyone's bubble. Just keepin it real.
 

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I think alot has to do with how much money has already been bet. If they had the Cowboys at 15 to 1 or 12 to 1 and a ton of money has been coming in on the Cowboys, then they stand to lose money if the Cowboys win the NFC. They have to lower the odds to reduce the amount of money going on one team and make other teams a more attractive bet, so that they make money in the long run and can cover the payouts on the winning bets. I think this means alot of people have bet the Cowboys more that it means the odds makers think the Cowboys are the best team in the NFC.
 

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theogt said:
Why? We were on the cusp last year.

Deficiencies:
Kicker - Fixed.
OL - Fixed.

Added talent:
LB corps - check.
Top-shelf WR - check.
Experience in 3-4 and our young talent - check.

To me, and I perhaps may be biased, it seems that we are a logical choice.

You're forgotting about ole led foot. He hasn't taken a team to the playoffs in 8 years. Do you know how many qb's have in that span. Anthony Wright and Kyle Orton are too examples. And Shawn King.:laugh2:
 

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p1_ said:
You're giving a lot of credit to the o-line you haven't seen play a down yet. Flo coming back from blown knee(he should be alright), Kozier whom we know little about, Undetermined starting center(both candidates with flaws in their game), Rivera was subpar last year and who knows what he brings this year, and, the winner of the Fabini/Petitty sweepstakes. Sorry, I can't see that being 'fixed'. I say its still a big question mark. Sorry to burst anyone's bubble. Just keepin it real.
I feel confident about the line. There have been reports about Flo being 100% and being stronger than he was last offseason. From the statistical analysis provided at the signing of Kosier, it looks like there's not going to be much drop off there. Plus, Bill's been high on Peterman, and I strongly suspect that he will win the starting job. He was a friggin' first day pick aftera all. Al Johnson is up close to 320 apparently so he should improve. I think this is his year. Rivera's back is fully healed this year. I cannot state how much of an improvement Fabini will be.
 

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littlewebs said:
Because it's not about last year, it's about this year. I'd trust Vegas oddsmakers over most of the guys on ESPN. Vegas has a lot of money riding on all their decisions regarding odds. They research a ton. This bodes well for us if they think we're 4-1.

Vegas researches where people are likely to bet. Not necessarily what the outcome will be. They get their money by splitting the bettors and cleaning up the vig.

Big difference.
 

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Canadian BoyzFan said:
Vegas researches where people are likely to bet. Not necessarily what the outcome will be. They get their money by splitting the bettors and cleaning up the vig.

Big difference.
It's my understanding, and appears rather obvious, that both are actually factors in determining odds.
 
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