Adding a third quarterback?

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LeeC53;5046431 said:
Landry Jones would be the perfect developmental quarterback for the cowboys. Give him 2 years to learn and grow behind Romo and Orton and then we are set. I believe he may be available in the 4th round.

Just like that huh? :)
 

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No to all of the guys listed above. I would be ok with drafting a guy like Landry Jones in the 3rd but I doubt he lasts that long. The only way you take a QB before the third round is if you believe he has 2 to 1 odds that he is a guy that can eventually be the successor to Romo in 3 years or less.
 

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Erik_H;5046551 said:
OK, so 2 years to grow and learn behind Romo and Orton.... Then we'd have to wait another 2 years until Romo's contract made sense for him to move on. At which point, Landry's rooike contract would also be up, so if he was any good at all, we'd have to give him another contract of lose him. Much like the QB guru's in GB ended up doing with Flynn. They got a whole lot of NOTHING for him in the end.

So we spend a 4th round pick, invest development time, use up all the advantage of having a player on a rookie contract for the off chance that he might be better than average.

This year is the PREFECT year to NOT draft a QB.


More like Romo was for us. If he hasn't seen the field yet he isn't going to break the bank to keep him especially if you extend him before he hits the field.
 

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stasheroo;5046488 said:
Would a 25 year old Tim Tebow qualify?

If so, do you have faith in Garrett and Wade Wilson to develop him?


You obviously didn't take my advice.
 

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stasheroo;5046384 said:
Vince Young is working out and trying to resurrect his NFL career while the Jets look to be cutting Tim Tebow in the not-too-distant future.

Do you guys feel either would make a nice addition as a #3 quarterback?
That might be the worst idea in the history of CowboysZone.:banghead:
 

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stasheroo;5046384 said:
I've been reading about several quarterbacks looking for work (or soon to be) and was wondering to myself if it would make sense for the Cowboys to get into the market.

Considering that the Stephen McGee experiment obviously did not work out, should the Cowboys look into obtaining another young option as a third quarterback?

Vince Young is working out and trying to resurrect his NFL career while the Jets look to be cutting Tim Tebow in the not-too-distant future.

Do you guys feel either would make a nice addition as a #3 quarterback?

I actually think Vince Young would be a brilliant addition, because he'd work for preparing against the Commanders. He could be an average quarterback, but he can also play WR if we got in a pinch. I was actually going to make a thread about this. He'd be great for preparing for RGIII and he would be a very quality 3rd string guy. He was the player I was thinking about though, because I wouldn't want to draft a quarterback.
 

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conner01;5046504 said:
unless someone really drops i don't see us adding a qb this year. but could next year. a much better class and another year down the road with romo.
guys like vince young and tebow are a wate of a roster spot. they will never be quality nfl qb's and while tebow may find a job as a backup for many year i think vince young is gonna find it tough to get a job in the nfl

Next year's class will be better at the top but I am not sure I would say it will be better for developmental QBs. This class is pretty good in that regard. No real can't miss Franchise QBs but a lot of guys in lower rounds who have some things you can build on IMO.
 

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Erik_H;5046551 said:
OK, so 2 years to grow and learn behind Romo and Orton.... Then we'd have to wait another 2 years until Romo's contract made sense for him to move on. At which point, Landry's rooike contract would also be up, so if he was any good at all, we'd have to give him another contract of lose him. Much like the QB guru's in GB ended up doing with Flynn. They got a whole lot of NOTHING for him in the end.

So we spend a 4th round pick, invest development time, use up all the advantage of having a player on a rookie contract for the off chance that he might be better than average.

This year is the PREFECT year to NOT draft a QB.

If we had done this with Romo, he would now be playing for another team. I think that if the QB is good enough, you keep him, regardless of if it costs you a second contract or not. It's worth the investment if you can get a QB out of the deal IMO.
 

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I've always wondered what combination of factors allowed Romo to succeed. I think part of it was that he was able to sit and learn for quite awhile. Teams don't usually have patience in young, undrafted QBs. I think he also benefited from some pretty good coaching when he first entered the league. Payton, David Lee, etc. However, if you look back at comments from his early days, people were pretty dismissive of him.

If you go back at Romo's career in college, it was OK, but nothing special. He won the Walter Payton Award (FCS equivalent of the Heisman) and put up decent stats, so it isn't like he was terrible, but there are FCS quarterbacks that put up more impressive numbers on a regular basis at that level.

If it were me, I'd always grab a top FCS guy and groom him. I'd always have a third QB either on the roster or the PS.

However, I have little to no faith in Wilson's ability to develop a QB in the NFL. The best he has ever done is Kyle Orton.

Taylor Heinicke in a couple of years (although he may get drafted). Maybe Jimmy Garrappalo or Denarius McGhee (from Texas) next year. I actually like more of those FCS types next year.
 

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I see no need for any 3rd QB on this team.

Pick up an UDFA for the scout team on practice squad.

Don't draft a QB of the future until you are ready to jettison either Romo or Orton.
 

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obviously there are going to be a few guys we like - we liked Dalton and Kapernick and likely would have taken either had they fallen to us.

I do think that Garrett does strongly believe that a rookie qb needs to sit and learn for a while though.
 

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BrAinPaiNt;5046389 said:
no No NO NO NO

Or...



There is no way in hades I want either of those two on this team because it would only further divide the fan base and for no good reason.

This is capital letters!
 

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If you're going to get a third QB, don't jack around with it. Go get the future for this team in the 1st or 2nd round, or wait until next year to do it. But as long as you have Tony here, no need and trying to look for bargain basement QBs, we already have Orton.
 

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Vince Young would come with too high of a price tag for a 3rd string QB wouldn't he?
 

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junk;5046756 said:
I've always wondered what combination of factors allowed Romo to succeed. I think part of it was that he was able to sit and learn for quite awhile. Teams don't usually have patience in young, undrafted QBs. I think he also benefited from some pretty good coaching when he first entered the league. Payton, David Lee, etc. However, if you look back at comments from his early days, people were pretty dismissive of him.

If you go back at Romo's career in college, it was OK, but nothing special. He won the Walter Payton Award (FCS equivalent of the Heisman) and put up decent stats, so it isn't like he was terrible, but there are FCS quarterbacks that put up more impressive numbers on a regular basis at that level.

If it were me, I'd always grab a top FCS guy and groom him. I'd always have a third QB either on the roster or the PS.

However, I have little to no faith in Wilson's ability to develop a QB in the NFL. The best he has ever done is Kyle Orton.

Taylor Heinicke in a couple of years (although he may get drafted). Maybe Jimmy Garrappalo or Denarius McGhee (from Texas) next year. I actually like more of those FCS types next year.
he actually had a very nice college career. he threw for 25k yard and completed nearly 65% of his passes. but thats at a small school. for tony he has a good arm which is not common for small school players and he reads defenses well. the time on the bench had to have helped and i think more qb's would benefit from it. guys like aikman are different and ready to play but most are not
 

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Verdict;5046571 said:
More like Romo was for us. If he hasn't seen the field yet he isn't going to break the bank to keep him especially if you extend him before he hits the field.

1) Rookie contracts in later rounds are shorter than they used to be.
2) Romo didn't cost us a pick.
3) We re-signed Romo before he reached Free Agency

If the guy hasn't reached the field and shown something in an actual football situation, how are we to know he's not just another McGee? That was a wasted 4th round pick right there. I'd rather not do it again.
 

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conner01;5046847 said:
he actually had a very nice college career. he threw for 25k yard and completed nearly 65% of his passes. but thats at a small school. for tony he has a good arm which is not common for small school players and he reads defenses well. the time on the bench had to have helped and i think more qb's would benefit from it. guys like aikman are different and ready to play but most are not
Sure, but I can probably find a whole list of guys with comparable or better career stats from the FCS that are similar to Romo in many ways. Slightly undersized (at least from the NFL perspective), overlooked by bigger schools, etc.

Also, Romo never threw for 25,000 yards in college. He threw for something like 7,800. The FCS record (Steve McNair) is only like 14K.

However, you could look at guys like the following and wonder what Romo had that they didn't.

Travis Lulay - 10K+ yards in college, about the same size as Romo, in the CFL now
Ricky Santos - Nors' guy - 13K yards in college, 123 TDs - Walter Payton Award Winner
Matt Nichols - 12K yards, 96 TDs - In the CFL now, came to camp w/ Dallas
Erik Meyer - 10K yards, 84 TDs - Walter Payton Award winner

FCS is littered with these guys. Not dismissing Romo's college career, but it wasn't anything special in comparison to his peers.

I think it'd be worthwhile to find one of these guys with some nice traits and just stash him for a couple of years to see what he becomes.

Need a good QB tutor though and Dallas does not have that.
 
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