Adrian Hamilton Article

[iceman117]

I'm just praying we get him on our raoster and coach him up, I know he won't dominate the NFL this way but if he can be a 8-10 sack guy opposite Ware for the next few years that would be outstanding..... our luck though we cut him and he goes on to be like James Harrison but with one of our division rivals....

 

[BrassCowboy]

In his YouTube video he sits an OT on his *** in amazing fashion.

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1:10. He blows that guy up.

And his spinmove does look very good against the guys he's playing.

I'm actually excited to see what he looks like come preseason.

in that video, he looks to be able to break off his blocks really well and go after the ball carrier, does have a good spin move, and can change direction pretty well.
If there were a negative from watching that video, it is maybe his method of tackling which is a very teachable thing. I am curious to how he does come preseason because he looks good from what I see in that video.

 

[Eskimo]

ok I'm on board he needs to be starting in place of Spencer... Could you imagine him on one side and ware on the other good night QB's would never sleep.

He'll need to learn how to play OLB.

He played ILB in HS. He played DE in college. I'm not sure how much 3-4 system he has played in the past.

I think there will be a big learning curve for him. However, rushing the passer is rushing the passer and I hope that he can be contributing as a nickel DE this year while he learns the OLB position.

I think he should be okay at OLB because you can't move like he does if you don't have good hips and change of direction skills. So I'm not super worried about athleticism but he may be a tick slow as ideally the OLBs would be 4.70 or better and they said high 4.7s in the article and I've read low 4.8s elsewhere. He certainly seems to play faster than that but I do believe Wilber is a tick faster.

I can definitely envision a day when there could be a rotation of Ware, Wilber, Hamilton and another player at OLB/nickel DE for us. I also expect us to add another OLB with a first round pick next year to add to the mix unless there is better value at safety or NT.

 

[BAT]

He'll need to learn how to play OLB.

He played ILB in HS. He played DE in college. I'm not sure how much 3-4 system he has played in the past.

I think there will be a big learning curve for him. However, rushing the passer is rushing the passer and I hope that he can be contributing as a nickel DE this year while he learns the OLB position.

I think he should be okay at OLB because you can't move like he does if you don't have good hips and change of direction skills. So I'm not super worried about athleticism but he may be a tick slow as ideally the OLBs would be 4.70 or better and they said high 4.7s in the article and I've read low 4.8s elsewhere. He certainly seems to play faster than that but I do believe Wilber is a tick faster.

I can definitely envision a day when there could be a rotation of Ware, Wilber, Hamilton and another player at OLB/nickel DE for us. I also expect us to add another OLB with a first round pick next year to add to the mix unless there is better value at safety or NT.

Like Terrell Suggs, Jerry Rice, Emmitt Smith and Lawrence Taylor, Adrian Hamilton has game speed. Suggs also ran 4.8 - 5.0 40's too. I was a huge proponent of drafting Suggs over Newman.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/draft/2003-04-14-sugg-de_x.htm

 

[Eskimo]

Like Terrell Suggs, Jerry Rice, Emmitt Smith and Lawrence Taylor, Adrian Hamilton has game speed. Suggs also ran 4.8 - 5.0 40's too. I was a huge proponent of drafting Suggs over Newman.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/draft/2003-04-14-sugg-de_x.htm

Yes, I wanted Suggs, too. It was hard not to want the kid after all the pumping Hos was doing for him back then but you have to love a guy who puts up 23 sacks in the Pac 10 as a 20 year old Junior.

I still can't believe we passed on Suggs for a 25 year old CB. The reasoning of the FO was that Suggs wasn't fast enough to be an edge rusher. This is another case of people trusting a stop watch over game film.

Can you imagine having Suggs and Ware as bookends the last 7 years? We might have won a SB and I'm not exaggerating. Our pass defense would be amazing.

 

[viman96]

Does the sound work in any of the videos?

 

[TheCount]

Does the sound work in any of the videos?

There is none in most of them.

 

[Staxxxx]

Here's Broadus's take from his UDFA breakdown on dc.com

Adrian Hamilton, OLB, Prairie View A&M 6-2 / 250 (4.81) – Don't get fooled by his timed speed, plays much faster than his forty yard dash time. Is always attacking the pocket. Plays with pass rush moves. Will put his hand on the ground but will do things from a two point stance. Have seen him drop as well but you want him rushing the passer. Is a good player on the move. Can get to the edge and around the corner to sharpen the edge. Will chase the play. Good at finding the ball then working down the line. Stays wide to not allow the ball outside. Athletic enough to avoid the cut block. Can be disruptive to cause turnovers. Always trying to finish the play.

 

[dogunwo]

Here's Broadus's take from his UDFA breakdown on dc.com

I am confused. Everything we have seen about this guy, I just dont understand why no one took a late round flyer on this guy.

 

[Galian Beast]

I am confused. Everything we have seen about this guy, I just dont understand why no one took a late round flyer on this guy.

Just because you get sacks against small school competition doesn't mean you're going to get drafted.

 

[honyock]

I can definitely envision a day when there could be a rotation of Ware, Wilber, Hamilton and another player at OLB/nickel DE for us. I also expect us to add another OLB with a first round pick next year to add to the mix unless there is better value at safety or NT.

That's what I'm thinking too. It'd be great if Wilber can be groomed to eventually take over SOLB and Hamilton can provide nickel pass rush. Would be a nice rotation. And with Crazy Rob, they'd probably all be on the field at times.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I am baffled how this guy did not get drafted. Whats the red flag?

 

[silverbear]

After blowing countless draft picks over the last 15 years on supposed pass-rushers, I'd make Sarge switch over to chocolate milk if we somehow found an 8-sack-year-guy as an undrafted free agent.

Good luck with that...

 

[Tex]

I cannot wait to see him in preseason. How does a guy like this not get drafted?

He ran a 4.95 and is projected as a 3-4 OLB at 260 lbs. He has some good qualities that showed up on the field even though he played for a small college so you take a flyer on him as a ufa.

 

[The30YardSlant]

I'm just praying we get him on our raoster and coach him up, I know he won't dominate the NFL this way but if he can be a 8-10 sack guy opposite Ware for the next few years that would be outstanding..... our luck though we cut him and he goes on to be like James Harrison but with one of our division rivals....

10 sacks a year in the NFL is dominant.

 

[Baileyneverfailey]

Yeah, I'm not sure when people started imagining that team's 2nd best pass rushers would be 10 sack a year guys, but it just doesn't happen much.

People always like to look at the Steelers, and I would direct them to the fact that Harrison has been around forever, and only recently did they find Woodley, who is now their #1 rusher and is being paid as such.

Just go look up how many sacks every other team gets from their 2nd best guy. Usually when a team has 2 double digit sack guys it's because they have one guy getting up in age, and they draft another guy with great potential and get a little lucky overlap.

There are teams every year who don't even get 1 guy to 10 sacks, and if they do, he's at least on a short list to go to the pro bowl.

I honestly don't care how many sacks our 2nd OLB gets, as long as he shuts down the run, and at least gets some pressures and TFL when Ware is eating double teams.

 

[xwalker]

I am baffled how this guy did not get drafted. Whats the red flag?

I'm still trying to figure out how guys like Miles Austin didn't get drafted. It interesting how a small college background is a killer for some players but does not seem to affect other. Amini Silatolu went early in the 2nd and had just average measureables.

 

[visionary]

OK, now you guys are getting me all pumped up for TC to start

 

[TheCount]

I am baffled how this guy did not get drafted. Whats the red flag?

Has a child. Also participated in track as a Texas prep. Signed with Oklahoma State out of high school but did not receive certification from the NCAA. Walked on at Texas Tech in 2007 and saw action in six games, making four tackles, one tackle for loss and zero sacks. Was dismissed from Texas Tech in August of ’08 for violating team rules and did not play in ’09 to concentrate on his academics at Dallas Community College. Transferred to Prairie View in ’10 and played in 10 contests, recording 27-8-51⁄2 with a blocked kick. In ’11, broke the Southwestern Athletic Conference single-season sack record previously held by Robert Mathis — started 9-of-11 contests and racked up 81-241⁄2-22 with two batted passes and six forced fumbles. Was invited to the Combine but was not on campus when Prairie View received the invitation and the information did not make it to him on time.

I suspect this had something to do with it. He bounced around quite a bit, got kicked out of a big name program which would have been chance #2 and then wasn't on top of his combine info which is kind of like saying you didn't show up for a job interview because you got stuck in traffic.

It seems like his life has been a bit of a mess and personal accountability may be a bit of a red flag. He showed enough ability to see time at two big programs but ended up at a community college where he rightfully dominated.

It's like the exact opposite route JPP took to the NFL. :laugh2:

I think he'll make the team and I hope he's got his life in order and matured a bit.

What's interesting though is that I saw his departing of Texas Tech reported as him being able to afford to stay there so he left, this is the first time I saw that he was actually dismissed for violating team rules.

 

[Staxxxx]

got kicked out of a big name program which would have been chance #2

What's interesting though is that I saw his departing of Texas Tech reported as him being able to afford to stay there so he left, this is the first time I saw that he was actually dismissed for violating team rules.

These first two statements are a little interesting because Mike Leach did state in a press conference that he was dismissed from the team for violating team rules but Adrian Hamilton adamantly denies that this is how it went down. Even though Mike Leach doesn't exactly invoke thoughts of George Washington you have to wonder what he would have to gain by lying about that and if Adrian might not have a little problem with accountability.

Here's an article about where Leach said he dismissed Hamilton

http://lubbockonline.com/stories/081408/spo_318458076.shtml
Sophomore defensive end Adrian Hamilton has been kicked off the team and won't return, Texas Tech coach Mike Leach said Wednesday. Leach said Hamilton was dismissed on Tuesday for violating team rules. He declined to elaborate.

Here's a snippet from an interview where Hamilton denies that.

http://www.optimumscouting.com/draf...ough-adrian-hamilton-de-prairie-view-aam.html
In August of 2008, he was dismissed by Red Raiders per Coach Leach in a press conference, but wouldn’t elaborate. I asked Adrian about his dismissal.
“I was never dismissed, I was a walk on and couldn’t afford the payments of school anymore, it was getting really expensive.”

and then wasn't on top of his combine info which is kind of like saying you didn't show up for a job interview because you got stuck in traffic.

As for the combine invite mess up here's another snippet from another writeup on him which is worth a read if you want a little more background information on him.

Prairie View head coach Heishma Northern said the school never recieved an invitation for Hamilton to attend the combine.
“Nobody on this staff, nor his agent can ever say that we received an invitation for him to attend the combine,” Northern said. “It would have been the biggest thing to happen in the history of Prairie View football. We would not have missed that.”

However it all went down as of now I'm just glad it went the way it did.