After running Romo out of town. This front office deserves this

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How are injury arguments illogical?

Dak along with Zeke won several games in a row up to that point and ended up winning 11 in a row that season. You don't disrupt that period. Romo was knocked out of the game the last 3 games he was in. He got knocked out against the Eagles, came back against Carolina, got knocked back out that very same game he came back... then during preseason against the Seahawks, he got knocked out of the game again after a couple of snaps. That's THREE times in a row where he got knocked out of a game without managing to complete a full game. You don't risk disrupting that sort of chemistry in the middle of a season.

How have we treated Romo badly? He has never had to compete for his job throughout his nearly decade long tenure here. They stocked his cupboard full of offensive weapons despite all this nonsense we hear about him carrying the team. He simply got injured too many times and they found a qb who was playing excellently at the time.
 

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Dak looked like garbage against the two good defenses we played that year.. Minnesota and the Giants...
Minnesota and Baltimore were the top ranked defense when played them. Best both of them!
 

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In this thread: Dak slobberers will double down on their stupidity while playing the role of quack doctors.
:muttley: hillarious. Thank you. I needed this. I am so tired of this fake *** PhD card carrying fans. So sure when they make their prognostic s
 

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He never wanted to play anywhere else. He said that he would retire before going to another team. The hairline fracture in his vertebra had fully heald and he had surgery that off-season to shorten his clavicle which should have made it more difficult to break. He already knew how to manage his disk issue. We saw him play great that year.

He just wanted a chance to win his job back and Garrett denied him that opportunity.
Wow:clap:
Bravo . . . Bravo.
 

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his life was in danger IMO

from not being able to play with his kids

to walking

DUMB ########## POST
 

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How are injury arguments illogical?

Dak along with Zeke won several games in a row up to that point and ended up winning 11 in a row that season. You don't disrupt that period. Romo was knocked out of the game the last 3 games he was in. He got knocked out against the Eagles, came back against Carolina, got knocked back out that very same game he came back... then during preseason against the Seahawks, he got knocked out of the game again after a couple of snaps. That's THREE times in a row where he got knocked out of a game without managing to complete a full game. You don't risk disrupting that sort of chemistry in the middle of a season.

How have we treated Romo badly? He has never had to compete for his job throughout his nearly decade long tenure here. They stocked his cupboard full of offensive weapons despite all this nonsense we hear about him carrying the team. He simply got injured too many times and they found a qb who was playing excellently at the time.

Yet he asked to compete for his starting job when he was healthy in 2016 and was refused...ever wonder why?
 

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Tony didn't have to accept the job at CBS, he could have returned the following season and shown everyone he was a far better quarterback than Dak Prescott. Tony was not run out of town the team just decided to stay with the hot hand during that season, as I said Tony's return would have put the rest who was the best quarterback......... some durability issues may apply:)
 

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Tony didn't have to accept the job at CBS, he could have returned the following season and shown everyone he was a far better quarterback than Dak Prescott. Tony was not run out of town the team just decided to stay with the hot hand during that season, as I said Tony's return would have put the rest who was the best quarterback......... some durability issues may apply:)

If the team wanted him to compete for the starting job in 2017 why would they release him?
 

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I really wish now that 2016 never happened. It was fools gold and this staff is getting what they deserve.

Good lord you Romo guys are unbearable. Romo was done. He could not take a hit to save his life any longer.

You know what else was fool's gold? Romo's 2007 and 2014 season. All the others were mediocre.

But keep whining and creating this false image of what really happened and who Romo really was. He never accomplished anything here. And could not stay healthy. The last full season he played was 2012.
 

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I like this thread and wanted to add a different twist. I feel half of Cowboys Nation didn't appreciate Romo and those fans deserve this. I've enjoyed this board for years. This is my favorite internet site. I have engaged in many arguments throughout the Romo era. I remember "fans" saying Romo was a choker, he couldn't get us to the playoffs, was over rated, on and on. I staunchly opposed those views of Romo. Now the Romo era is over and we suck. Now we learned that Romo was the glue that held the team together. Romo was the QB and offensive coordinator. He made up for Sir Clappalot's idiocy. Romo was a player and a coach. It's not lost to me that Dak has significantly regressed since Romo is not on the sidelines. When we lost Romo we lost our offense guru who had to overcome the HC, and now we're stuck with Garrett running the offense.

So to all the fans that wanted Romo gone and blamed him for our 8-8 seasons and not going far in the playoffs. This is what those fans deserve.
 

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I'm a big fan of romo.....but enough of the romo would have come back and conquered the world bs......he was done, his body just couldn't take anymore......move on.....
 

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Another Romo thread auto-attracting standard illogical injury counter arguments. Once again (but far from being the last time):

Going into 2016, Romo was the starter and Prescott was a backup along with Moore. Romo and Moore were preseason injury casualties. Prescott started and had a historic September and October run for a rookie quarterback. Romo was medically cleared to return as starter beginning November. At this point, the decision-makers (a.k.a. Jones and Garrett) had multiple logical options:

  1. Start Romo. Sit Prescott. If Romo's performance sucked, sit Romo. Start Prescott.
  2. Start Romo. Sit Prescott. If Romo became a quadriplegic, roll Romo onto a gurney. Start Prescott.
Short list. What actual real-life event happened?

Romo essentially retired mid November because the decision-makers decided two things:
  1. The franchise had better odds of winning an NFL title with a rookie quarterback, a feat never accomplished in league history.
  2. The franchise would transition to another permanent starting quarterback with a zero backup plan at the position beyond the mid-season mark of 2016.
Question: What is the perpetually unquestionable irony of the entire situation?

Answer: Peers, media members and portions of NFL fanbases completely supported Jones and Garrett's decision-making--the exact same two individuals who are ridiculed incessantly for not making logical decisions for the team.
^THIS^ The logic is strong with you.
 

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Another Romo thread auto-attracting standard illogical injury counter arguments. Once again (but far from being the last time):

Going into 2016, Romo was the starter and Prescott was a backup along with Moore. Romo and Moore were preseason injury casualties. Prescott started and had a historic September and October run for a rookie quarterback. Romo was medically cleared to return as starter beginning November. At this point, the decision-makers (a.k.a. Jones and Garrett) had multiple logical options:

  1. Start Romo. Sit Prescott. If Romo's performance sucked, sit Romo. Start Prescott.
  2. Start Romo. Sit Prescott. If Romo became a quadriplegic, roll Romo onto a gurney. Start Prescott.
Short list. What actual real-life event happened?

Romo essentially retired mid November because the decision-makers decided two things:
  1. The franchise had better odds of winning an NFL title with a rookie quarterback, a feat never accomplished in league history.
  2. The franchise would transition to another permanent starting quarterback with a zero backup plan at the position beyond the mid-season mark of 2016.
Question: What is the perpetually unquestionable irony of the entire situation?

Answer: Peers, media members and portions of NFL fanbases completely supported Jones and Garrett's decision-making--the exact same two individuals who are ridiculed incessantly for not making logical decisions for the team.


This is the long version of "they drank the koolaid"...well said
 

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I really wish now that 2016 never happened. It was fools gold and this staff is getting what they deserve.
Oh, what a foolish nave to believe that Romo and his (mostly) 8-8 years were better.
Retire yoiur Romo Love for Cowboy love, street urchins!
 

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First off I always appreciate anyone who served our country in the Military and this is not about how good/bad Dak is. But sit and watch Romo for 3 years? Romo had heart, grit, and was tough. But come on, his body was breaking down and just like they do with S. Lee now, he had to have rest days during the week in hopes his back would hold up for each game. It had nothing to do with his toughness, it happens. And while it's becoming clearer by the day just how much Romo carried this team including the HC, he won exactly two playoff game's. Is that all his fault? Absolutely not but "HOF Caliber?", let's not get carried away.


I think you're conflating a few things. Let hit on them one by one.

Was his body breaking down? Absolutely not.

What repeat injuries did Romo have? His collarbone. Which he rushed back to save the season. This was not a long running injury.

Issue with his back were entirely unrelated.

His rest days were after he was coming back from his back injury and he played an MVP year in the process.

His numbers are HOF caliber, not at all his fault that his defenses were terrible. Very few QBs have had playoff success with terrible defenses.
 

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Another Romo thread auto-attracting standard illogical injury counter arguments. Once again (but far from being the last time):

Going into 2016, Romo was the starter and Prescott was a backup along with Moore. Romo and Moore were preseason injury casualties. Prescott started and had a historic September and October run for a rookie quarterback. Romo was medically cleared to return as starter beginning November. At this point, the decision-makers (a.k.a. Jones and Garrett) had multiple logical options:

  1. Start Romo. Sit Prescott. If Romo's performance sucked, sit Romo. Start Prescott.
  2. Start Romo. Sit Prescott. If Romo became a quadriplegic, roll Romo onto a gurney. Start Prescott.
Short list. What actual real-life event happened?

Romo essentially retired mid November because the decision-makers decided two things:
  1. The franchise had better odds of winning an NFL title with a rookie quarterback, a feat never accomplished in league history.
  2. The franchise would transition to another permanent starting quarterback with a zero backup plan at the position beyond the mid-season mark of 2016.
Question: What is the perpetually unquestionable irony of the entire situation?

Answer: Peers, media members and portions of NFL fanbases completely supported Jones and Garrett's decision-making--the exact same two individuals who are ridiculed incessantly for not making logical decisions for the team.


Brilliant post. You couldn't be more right; however, there are more considerations. Romo's cap penalty suggests that you wouldn't get much benefit of Dak's rookie contract as Romo would still be an anchor on the salary cap. Ignoring this to move on was a huge mistake for the organization. It was money we simply will never recover.

The thing about the NFL is we give "professionals" a lot of credence. In reality, most of these talking heads don't know much more than the everyday fan or might even know less than the zealous fans you see on a message board, who can think logically.

People got sucked into a winning streak, without doing a proper analysis of why the team was winning and how they were winning. They believed that there was some magic unforeseen value contributing to the win that couldn't be disrupted. There is something to team chemistry, but football is a lot like chess in that it's a game of pieces that all contribute to something.

If a team went 16-0 one year with kicker A and the next year went 0-16 with Kicker B. Is Kicker B worse than Kicker A? In reality, there isn't enough information given to make that determination. What if Kicker A missed all of his kicks, but the team won anyway, while Kicker B made all of his kicks but the team lost anyways?

A proper examination of 2016 would have shown people that

- It was an easy schedule.
- Dak wasn't beating many teams in the air.
- The defense was playing considerably better than 2014.
- Ezekiel Elliott also outplayed DeMarco Murray.

No one should have come to the conclusion that Dak was playing better than Romo could have played under the exact same circumstances. In reality the team would simply have been better, and I think they could have had success in the playoffs.
 

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He never wanted to play anywhere else. He said that he would retire before going to another team. The hairline fracture in his vertebra had fully heald and he had surgery that off-season to shorten his clavicle which should have made it more difficult to break. He already knew how to manage his disk issue. We saw him play great that year.

He just wanted a chance to win his job back and Garrett denied him that opportunity.

:hammer::thumbup:
 
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