Ahmad Brooks likely to join supplemental draft.

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Hostile said:
I'd love to steal this kid in the Supplemental Draft and have him come in healthy.
IF he's available for our 3rd rounder in next year's draft, then I'd take a chance on him. A big, athletic, fast, LB w/ a drug-problem? Where have I heard that before? BP's been down that road before and knows what to do. Give him a chance Jerry.....
 

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silverbear said:
What's absurd is your inability to admit that you don't properly understand what constitutes an assault...



No, it isn't, and no, it doesn't... battery means you BATTER someone, as in, you STRIKE them physically... it is a very specific term, aimed at a very specific offense...

Assaults most assuredly can be verbal, as in verbal intimidation...



Here's hoping you never try to float that argument in a court of law...

"Your honor, I don't care what the court says, I didn't assault that woman, I just screamed that I was gonna kill her"...

ROTFLMAO... what YOU think assault is doesn't really matter, does it??

I already admitted I was wrong about it and my following posts were that I didn't agree. I already posted the definition of the word according to dictionary.com and thesaurus.com. The other guy was saying that assault is not attacking someone only verbal which is not the case. The definition clearly says that it is attack and that can include many things.

US assaulted Iraq today and the Generals were just yelling at each other :laugh2:

Cops won't pick you up for yelling at someone even if you threaten to kill them. They may take you in and question you but nothing will stick to be honest it is a waste of their time. I have cops friends and I have talked to them about threats before (family experience).

I am not looking to make enemies here I just don't agree with our governments definition of assault. It either is or is not but our legal system makes things so watered down and grey. Everrything is questioned and constantly redefined.

Let's just agree to disagree
 

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DBoys said:
The other guy was saying that assault is not attacking someone only verbal which is not the case. The definition clearly says that it is attack and that can include many things.

No, I said it wasn't verbal. I was very clear on that.

It is a physical action but one that is a threat, not an actual attack. Such as sticking a gun in your face but not actually shooting you.

US assaulted Iraq today and the Generals were just yelling at each other :laugh2:

Yeah... that's that incorrect contemporary usage I was talking about.

I'm fully aware that people use it that way. They are all using it wrong.
 

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mschmidt64 said:
No, I said it wasn't verbal. I was very clear on that.

It is a physical action but one that is a threat, not an actual attack. Such as sticking a gun in your face but not actually shooting you.
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That is where our disagreement lies because assault means attack according to thesaurus.com. Attack can mean different things including an actual attack.

mschmidt64 said:
Yeah... that's that incorrect contemporary usage I was talking about.

I'm fully aware that people use it that way. They are all using it wrong.

I disagree

I guess according to proper legal jargon it should be:

US battered Iraq today, the cake was really good :p
 

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DBoys said:
That is where our disagreement lies because assault means attack according to thesaurus.com. Attack can mean different things including an actual attack.
You are trying to put a dictionary definition upon a legal disctinction.

For the purposes of the Law, Battery is the actual carrying out of a threat. The threat is the assault.

It is confusing. However, this is exactly what it means. Trying to custom fit it to agree with your opinion or the dictionary, thesaurus, etc. isn't accomplishing anything.
 

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DBoys said:
I already admitted I was wrong about it and my following posts were that I didn't agree.

Whether you agree or not is really irrelevant, since you're bound by the law, the way the rest of us are...
 

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DBoys said:
That is where our disagreement lies because assault means attack according to thesaurus.com. Attack can mean different things including an actual attack.

Not when you're talking the legal system, it can't... yes, in military terms, an assault is a physical attack...and maybe common usage has allowed the word to take on that connotation, but that's not what we're talking about here, is it??

No sir, the argument is over the LEGAL definition of assault... think about it this way-- you've heard the term "assault and battery" used in legal shows since you were a little kid, haven't you?? Why would they need the "and battery" part, if assault by itself meant a physical attack??
 

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Hostile said:
You are trying to put a dictionary definition upon a legal disctinction.

For the purposes of the Law, Battery is the actual carrying out of a threat. The threat is the assault.

It is confusing. However, this is exactly what it means. Trying to custom fit it to agree with your opinion or the dictionary, thesaurus, etc. isn't accomplishing anything.

It works with lawyers thats why everything is so confusing j/k :)

I know you guys are right regarding the legal defintion I admitted that.
 

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DBoys said:
It works with lawyers thats why everything is so confusing j/k :)

I know you guys are right regarding the legal defintion I admitted that.
In other words, you're not a lawyer, just playing one on the Internet.

:wink2:
 

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Hostile said:
In other words, you're not a lawyer, just playing one on the Internet.

:wink2:

Nope and I never claimed to be one. But just because or legal system says that it means one thing does that make it absolute? I could easily go commit the crime pay a lawyer enough money so that we could further water down/redefine what the word means.

To say that I am a lawyer trying to custom fit the word to my own opinion is hypocritical. I am using what the word means it is the lawyers and law that have changed it to suit their own opinion.

I am done with this thread :)
 

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Over the weekend I bought assault and pepper shaker.:laugh1:


I'm an idiot....:p:
 

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DBoys said:
Nope and I never claimed to be one. But just because or legal system says that it means one thing does that make it absolute?

For legal purposes, absolutely... LOL...

I could easily go commit the crime pay a lawyer enough money so that we could further water down/redefine what the word means.

By all means, do so, and let us know how it turns out for you... I hear that they'll let you have some restricted internet access in prison... ;)
 
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