Aikman on Dak: He's going to be the Cowboys quarterback for a long time

LovinItAll

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Dak knows this:

Dak's record with 0 turnovers 25-1

Daks record with turnovers 7-15

And he plays like it too!

Is that the stat they showed Sunday - I think it was zero turnovers but I am not sure? If you have turnovers as a QB you have to be dynamic enough as a passer to make the plays to overcome them. I think Dak knows that is not his strong suit!

Having a losing record when a team loses the turnover battle is not unique to Dak. It's a key stat for that reason. Giving the opposing team an extra possession in the NFL is huge.
 

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I thought "you either have it or you don't". Wasn't that what he said earlier in the season? I figured he was talking about Dak not having "IT".

I thought there was a shot if you had "it". lol

Not saying it’s where I stand, but Dak can lack the IT factor and still get a playoff win. I think flacco, Dalton, Cousins, Mariota, Alex Smith all could have beaten a wild card team at home with the Cowboy’s roster by 2 points. That’s about the area most people seem to be labeling him when they ‘bash’ Dak.
 

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If you've heard or read responses from Troy since he retired, you will notice two distinctly different people. He's the Fox analyst when representing Fox in any capacity and he's the ex Cowboys QB when in Dallas being interviewed by the local media. When he's away from his day job, he speaks his mind freely about the team when asked, including how it is managed.

He's very in tune with doing this as that was how he became the QB of the toughest team in the league to QB because of the bright lights. As the DC QB, he never gave them anything they could use. He was the best representative of the team, a really bad team, they could have hoped for and because of his vanilla approach to interviews he surprised many with his personality in being an analyst.

I see this criticism about his objectivity being borderline anti Cowboys and I don't get it. The man is a pro and his opinion matters to many. Better than that idiot homer Irvin with 0 credibility as an analyst.

As the Fox analyst, he has to remain objective but as the ex Cowboys QB, he has shown support for every QB that came after him, even the bad ones. How anyone could possibly see Aikman as a hater of the Cowboys or any player is beyond me. I do not think he likes Booger and maybe not the Jones family because they're one in the same but when he's the ex Cowboys QB, he is all Cowboy.
 

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Dak has to be the most polarizing Dallas quarterback ever.

There's a lot more information out there now to analyze every play. Everyone with access to All-22 film and social media account is an expert.
 

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Those convinced Prescott is the elite answer need to pump the brakes, he's got work to do. It's encouraging that he brings his "A" game in the biggest settings. He's had two very good postseason games so far and is part of two division titles.

Those claiming he's a liability and can't let go of the past are essentially broken. It's ok to cheer, give credit where it's do and be critical all at the same time.
 

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Not saying it’s where I stand, but Dak can lack the IT factor and still get a playoff win. I think flacco, Dalton, Cousins, Mariota, Alex Smith all could have beaten a wild card team at home with the Cowboy’s roster by 2 points. That’s about the area most people seem to be labeling him when they ‘bash’ Dak.
I have been corrected by my fellow posters about Troy referring to Dak being accurate....which is true. I see your team is moving right along. These playoffs are proving to be rather interesting, wouldn't you say? :)
 

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Dak in his 3rd year on pace to tie romos 10+ year record of playoff wins.


Now I can see why the whole team from coaches to players couldn’t wait to have Dak takeover. He’s got elite potential

Agreed in crunchtime Dak has a pair of boulders while Romo had a pair of pebbles!
 

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That is what Troy said, but the conversation was about having pinpoint accuracy. The conversation began with Jimmy Johnson saying you win with a guy like Dak and Troy agreeing, then they talked about Dak developing the type of ultra-precise accuracy that Aikman had and that Aaron Rodgers has right now. It wasn't about the type of "good enough" accuracy that guys like Russell Wilson or Rothisberger have.

I agree with Troy that "you have it or you don't" and Dak will never develop the accuracy Troy had. I also agree with Troy (and Jimmy) that you will win a ton of games with Dak as your QB.

I still have to ask:

If one has it (something like accuracy), how does one know that someone else who doesn't happen to have it atm can't develop it? Gladwell would say that Dak (or anyone else that starts with his current skillset) could develop it if given enough time. The practice rules are MUCH different than when Troy was in the league. Dak, unless he does it on his own time, will never have the time in practice to develop the way Troy did. And let me tell you, Troy's reputation for accuracy wasn't cemented during his first three years.
 

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Dak knows this:

Dak's record with 0 turnovers 25-1

Daks record with turnovers 7-15

And he plays like it too!

Is that the stat they showed Sunday - I think it was zero turnovers but I am not sure? If you have turnovers as a QB you have to be dynamic enough as a passer to make the plays to overcome them. I think Dak knows that is not his strong suit!
That is partly because we are so bad at creating turnovers ourselves, so basically if Dak turns the ball over we have a negative turnover ratio. Teams with a minus 1 turnover ratio only win 30% of the time, so Dak's record is about on par with that. Nothing about this stat is specific to Dak other than that he has been on good teams.
 

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Oh boy, I'm off work today. I have all the time in the world. This will be my most productive 10 minutes of the day.

Now it's not on the list of rules, but I think I was told at some point that you can't call other members trolls on this website; I assume to stop people from namecalling, calling everyone they disagree with a troll, etc. Understandable (though I could be confusing it for the old DC.com forum where that was indeed a rule and I got a timeout for it numerous times for having lovely chats with my old buddy Deathvokation (@Runwildboys the good old days)). I'm not entirely positive though, so maybe one of the staff members here can clarify that for me.

So, lets just look at @Willfreedom909 's posts and decide what he is for ourselves. Looking through his profile for about 13 seconds, it seems as if every post he writes falls under one of these categories -

1) Extreme anti-Romo posts, and bringing Romo up in threads that are not about him. Insulting and arguing with people who like Romo, proclaiming in every thread that Dak has surpassed him, and Romo sucks, and he wasn't a "real QB", etc.

2) Extreme pro-Dak posts. Looking at his posts, the dude posted on Saturday for instance before the game that Dak has a better HOF case than Romo. He seems to enjoy insulting and arguing with anyone who does not like Dak. I am a Dak fan and a Romo fan, so I'm trying not to be biased here; just calling it like I see it and stating the facts.

Now, those are what the majority of his posts are themed around. Whether a thread is about Romo/Dak or not, he does on occasion force his opinions about Romo/Dak into it.

But let's not forget about the...

3) Blazing hot takes! Here are some of his I especially like. Have a peek through the profile, guys.

The ones in quotation marks are indeed exact quotes of our boi will's that I have simply copy and pasted.

Dak is better than Brady and Brees
Gallup is better than Adam Theilen
Foles is the best QB in the NFC east
Aikman would take the current Cowboys to 4-12
Lamar Jackson is the best rookie QB
Lamar Jackson should have been the #1 draft pick
Mahomes doesn't need good footwork because he is so talented
"Mayfield is a midget without the talent of Wilson or brees" (despite the fact that Mayfield is taller than both Wilson and Brees)
Blake Bortles has accomplished more than Romo
Andy Dalton "won more" than Romo
Dak is better than Staubach
Dak is better than Andrew Luck
Deshaun Watson is better than Andrew Luck
Dak is trash, but Romo was even more trash.
"Without Sean Lee, Romo would never have had a winning season" (he had a winning season every year as a starter before Lee was drafted)
"Dak most clutch qb i have ever seen in playoffs". (I especially like this one, because it was before the game against Seattle, so his sample size was literally the one playoff game in 2016)
"Brady is a trash system QB"
Dak is the best QB in the NFC east, despite later stating it's Foles
"Dak, Beasley, snake lee are all passive aggressive babys"
"Both Quincy and Dak are better talents than Romo"
"Dak sucks and is just a slightly better Romo" (???)
"Wentz still better than Romo just not as good as Dak"

Oh sweet, if you copy and paste directly from a profile it generates a link to the post.

"I would trade LVE for Ramsey in a heartbeat"
"Tom Brady is a bottom tier quarterback. Without him starting patriots are 14-5."
"Tebow still won more than Tony Romo ever did."
"Trade Cole Beasley for Antonio brown"
"Trade Cole Beasley for two first round picks"
"kellen moore was just as good as romo just never got the chance."
"Low IQ post"
"Low IQ post"
"Low IQ post low IQ post"
"I'd love Kaep to replace Dak on this team. Perfect Superbowl hardened veteran."
"Low iq thread"
"You mean Sean Lee and LVE are low IQ. Jaylon is the only linebacker between the 3 that displays he's intelligent"
"Every game is a must win if cowboys want to be serious contenders. Hope they lose though so dak, JG, and Scott linenhan can be traded away...."
"You mad? Defense LVE is expendable. I'd trade him in a heart beat if we could get a solid guy like Juju Smith Schuster."
"Low iq post"
"Lol you really are low iq."
"This is a low iq post."
"Low IQ post"
"Dak is not half as good as Cam. His arm and footwork is laughable."
"Dak is going to get around 30 million a year. He's better than 70% of QB's in the league. Dude is clutch as they come"

I'll stop there.

In conclusion, Will is one of my favorite posters, and I am so looking forward to reading more of his high iq posts.

An absolute truth:

One who harps on about IQ is almost certainly within 2 SDs of the mean.
 

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Oh boy, I'm off work today. I have all the time in the world. This will be my most productive 10 minutes of the day.

Now it's not on the list of rules, but I think I was told at some point that you can't call other members trolls on this website; I assume to stop people from namecalling, calling everyone they disagree with a troll, etc. Understandable (though I could be confusing it for the old DC.com forum where that was indeed a rule and I got a timeout for it numerous times for having lovely chats with my old buddy Deathvokation (@Runwildboys the good old days)). I'm not entirely positive though, so maybe one of the staff members here can clarify that for me.

So, lets just look at @Willfreedom909 's posts and decide what he is for ourselves. Looking through his profile for about 13 seconds, it seems as if every post he writes falls under one of these categories -

1) Extreme anti-Romo posts, and bringing Romo up in threads that are not about him. Insulting and arguing with people who like Romo, proclaiming in every thread that Dak has surpassed him, and Romo sucks, and he wasn't a "real QB", etc.

2) Extreme pro-Dak posts. Looking at his posts, the dude posted on Saturday for instance before the game that Dak has a better HOF case than Romo. He seems to enjoy insulting and arguing with anyone who does not like Dak. I am a Dak fan and a Romo fan, so I'm trying not to be biased here; just calling it like I see it and stating the facts.

Now, those are what the majority of his posts are themed around. Whether a thread is about Romo/Dak or not, he does on occasion force his opinions about Romo/Dak into it.

But let's not forget about the...

3) Blazing hot takes! Here are some of his I especially like. Have a peek through the profile, guys.

The ones in quotation marks are indeed exact quotes of our boi will's that I have simply copy and pasted.

Dak is better than Brady and Brees
Gallup is better than Adam Theilen
Foles is the best QB in the NFC east
Aikman would take the current Cowboys to 4-12
Lamar Jackson is the best rookie QB
Lamar Jackson should have been the #1 draft pick
Mahomes doesn't need good footwork because he is so talented
"Mayfield is a midget without the talent of Wilson or brees" (despite the fact that Mayfield is taller than both Wilson and Brees)
Blake Bortles has accomplished more than Romo
Andy Dalton "won more" than Romo
Dak is better than Staubach
Dak is better than Andrew Luck
Deshaun Watson is better than Andrew Luck
Dak is trash, but Romo was even more trash.
"Without Sean Lee, Romo would never have had a winning season" (he had a winning season every year as a starter before Lee was drafted)
"Dak most clutch qb i have ever seen in playoffs". (I especially like this one, because it was before the game against Seattle, so his sample size was literally the one playoff game in 2016)
"Brady is a trash system QB"
Dak is the best QB in the NFC east, despite later stating it's Foles
"Dak, Beasley, snake lee are all passive aggressive babys"
"Both Quincy and Dak are better talents than Romo"
"Dak sucks and is just a slightly better Romo" (???)
"Wentz still better than Romo just not as good as Dak"

Oh sweet, if you copy and paste directly from a profile it generates a link to the post.

"I would trade LVE for Ramsey in a heartbeat"
"Tom Brady is a bottom tier quarterback. Without him starting patriots are 14-5."
"Tebow still won more than Tony Romo ever did."
"Trade Cole Beasley for Antonio brown"
"Trade Cole Beasley for two first round picks"
"kellen moore was just as good as romo just never got the chance."
"Low IQ post"
"Low IQ post"
"Low IQ post low IQ post"
"I'd love Kaep to replace Dak on this team. Perfect Superbowl hardened veteran."
"Low iq thread"
"You mean Sean Lee and LVE are low IQ. Jaylon is the only linebacker between the 3 that displays he's intelligent"
"Every game is a must win if cowboys want to be serious contenders. Hope they lose though so dak, JG, and Scott linenhan can be traded away...."
"You mad? Defense LVE is expendable. I'd trade him in a heart beat if we could get a solid guy like Juju Smith Schuster."
"Low iq post"
"Lol you really are low iq."
"This is a low iq post."
"Low IQ post"
"Dak is not half as good as Cam. His arm and footwork is laughable."
"Dak is going to get around 30 million a year. He's better than 70% of QB's in the league. Dude is clutch as they come"

I'll stop there.

In conclusion, Will is one of my favorite posters, and I am so looking forward to reading more of his high iq posts.
I'm telling you: he's going to make the Thread of the Year this year!
Or he's going to get banned.
 

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If one has it (something like accuracy), how does one know that someone else who doesn't happen to have it atm can't develop it? Gladwell would say that Dak (or anyone else that starts with his current skillset) could develop it if given enough time.

The difference IMO is between accuracy and ultra-precise accuracy. The Gladwell point is a good one, but you can spend 10000 hours to teach a pitcher how to throw a changeup. You can't spend 10000 hours teaching a pitcher who throws 90 mph how to throw 99, its purely a physical thing.

Dak will throw passes at times that are very accurate, but its not the type of ultra-precise accuracy like Aikman showed in the story where he knocked a Gatoraide bottle off Tuinei's head at 50 yards. Not many people on Earth could make that pass and I don't see Dak every having that type of accuracy. I do see Dak smoothing out his mechanics so he eliminates the one or two bad passes he makes he game. I think that just comes with time, but I don't think he ever develops "Gatoraide Bottle at 50 yards" accuracy.
 
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