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MichaelWinicki

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I don't travel by air that often. Maybe a dozen times over my life. But every time I fly, I'm amazed at far we've come since Kittyhawk, which wasn't much more than a century a go.

And really all the griping and issues we hear about airports and airlines, I'm always stunned at how many people move through an average airport over a given day.

We were in "waiting line" in Detroit, waiting for several planes to take off in front of us... And about every minute and a half a plane took off– One right after another. To keep all that coordinated so there's no major accident taking place... I applaud all the workers from traffic controllers to the folks handling the baggage.
 

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Customer service still sucks. Treated like cattle most times. I don't dread flying only because I accept the fact ahead of time that I'll be treated disrespectfully. It is amazing the coordination it takes to keep this country flying I agree.
 

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I have flown I dare say hundreds of times, mostly work related (20 yrs Air Force) but much of it for pleasure in route to vacation locations all over the world, most of the time flying coach. I won't do it anymore. I've discovered something that has forever changed my flying experience for the better...fly first class. Yes it's more expensive but IMO, it's well worth it. These are the benefits I appreciate the most... the people you meet, faster status/perks, stress-free, and most importantly to me... time.

TIME... This is the most valuable benefit to me. You can show up at the airport later because your first-class boarding pass gives you access to a faster security line at most airports. And there are other “firsts” build into first class: You get to board first, and you’re off the plane first. Your bags come off the belt first (and you didn’t have to pay an additional fee to check them), helping you get to your destination sooner.

STRESS-FREE... This benefit pays off on particularly turbulent flights or if you are an uncomfortable flyer. According to ask the pilot.com, “The roughest spot is usually the far aft—the rearmost rows closest to the tail.” In addition, with more legroom, a bigger workspace, and less chance of encountering loud kids, you can focus on your projects and reduce the stress of a lost work day. (My heart goes out to parents with small children on planes; they’re just as stressed out about their restless children, so please you parents out there know I understand!) Need to recharge your body’s batteries with a good nap? You’re more likely to get those much-needed z’s in first class.

FASTER STATUS/PERKS... Some airlines have a “points vs. miles” system in their frequent traveler program. Purchased first class tickets get you more points than miles, meaning you reach higher status faster, with fewer flights. Of course, if you’re in first class because you used miles or points for an upgrade, you’ll only earn miles for economy. I reach my executive platinum status each year on American Airlines with points way before I reach 100,000 miles flown. That means I get the benefits of that status starting earlier in the year. And you’re less likely to need those end-of-year mileage runs to maintain your status.

THE PEOPLE YOU MEET... Since many of your fellow passengers in the front of the plane are business travelers, your flight becomes a networking opportunity. And you never know who you’re going to meet. On a flight from Frankfurt to Boston I sat next to the Dean of Harvard Medical School, who shared his tips for dealing with jetlag. I have met dozens of fascinating people with whom I stay in touch.
 

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I'm traveling through Europe for this month. Flew from Seattle to Amsterdam this past week. We had a similar situation where there were about 8 planes in front of us waiting to depart. I figured it would be over an hour before we left but it took us about 12 minutes. The flight was also good. Overseas flights are cool because the seats are a bit more comfortable, you have real food, and unlimited-ish movies/TV/music. Not to mention, going through security has gotten much smoother than it was in the early post-9/11 years.
 

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I have flown I dare say hundreds of times, mostly work related (20 yrs Air Force) but much of it for pleasure in route to vacation locations all over the world, most of the time flying coach. I won't do it anymore. I've discovered something that has forever changed my flying experience for the better...fly first class. Yes it's more expensive but IMO, it's well worth it. These are the benefits I appreciate the most... the people you meet, faster status/perks, stress-free, and most importantly to me... time.

TIME... This is the most valuable benefit to me. You can show up at the airport later because your first-class boarding pass gives you access to a faster security line at most airports. And there are other “firsts” build into first class: You get to board first, and you’re off the plane first. Your bags come off the belt first (and you didn’t have to pay an additional fee to check them), helping you get to your destination sooner.

STRESS-FREE... This benefit pays off on particularly turbulent flights or if you are an uncomfortable flyer. According to ask the pilot.com, “The roughest spot is usually the far aft—the rearmost rows closest to the tail.” In addition, with more legroom, a bigger workspace, and less chance of encountering loud kids, you can focus on your projects and reduce the stress of a lost work day. (My heart goes out to parents with small children on planes; they’re just as stressed out about their restless children, so please you parents out there know I understand!) Need to recharge your body’s batteries with a good nap? You’re more likely to get those much-needed z’s in first class.

FASTER STATUS/PERKS... Some airlines have a “points vs. miles” system in their frequent traveler program. Purchased first class tickets get you more points than miles, meaning you reach higher status faster, with fewer flights. Of course, if you’re in first class because you used miles or points for an upgrade, you’ll only earn miles for economy. I reach my executive platinum status each year on American Airlines with points way before I reach 100,000 miles flown. That means I get the benefits of that status starting earlier in the year. And you’re less likely to need those end-of-year mileage runs to maintain your status.

THE PEOPLE YOU MEET... Since many of your fellow passengers in the front of the plane are business travelers, your flight becomes a networking opportunity. And you never know who you’re going to meet. On a flight from Frankfurt to Boston I sat next to the Dean of Harvard Medical School, who shared his tips for dealing with jetlag. I have met dozens of fascinating people with whom I stay in touch.


Great point about first class seating... I've done it a couple of times and it's very enjoyable.
 

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I understand the TSA frustration.

Personally I would think that's one miserable job... The customer is unhappy because the whole process is "cattle-herdish" in nature. I'm sure the TSA folks get a lot of grief about how things have to be done.

For whatever reason the last couple times I've flown I've been moved to the TSA "Preferred" line which is a heck of a lot easier/faster getting through.
 

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I agree with flying first class. Luckily I rarely had to pay for it as my status got me upgraded frequently and if I wasn't upgraded I always had the better seats in coach (Delta Comfort).

I left the high traveling job and worked in our local airport. I got to see first hand the inner workings of the "guts" of the airport. This included dealing with TSA. I hate the idea of TSA but for the most part the people try to be good. A lot of them know they're only there for show but it's a job that pays the bills.

I'm back to where I'm traveling again. I'm slowly working my way to getting status again. More than anything else what makes me despise flying is the other passengers. They're the ones who make flying miserable. Since everybody is cramped to begin with it only takes the one passenger who can ruin it for a lot of other people. If airlines were really serious about boarding they would charge for carryon and give checked bags for free.
 

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I understand the TSA frustration.

Personally I would think that's one miserable job... The customer is unhappy because the whole process is "cattle-herdish" in nature. I'm sure the TSA folks get a lot of grief about how things have to be done.

For whatever reason the last couple times I've flown I've been moved to the TSA "Preferred" line which is a heck of a lot easier/faster getting through.

Or it could be that in quality control tests they have a 97% fail rate.
 

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The amazing thing about flying is how relatively inexpensive it is to fly almost anywhere in the world and in just a few short hours.
This I agree with, but a lot of people complain because the airlines don't give the service it once did. Well, when the airlines were regulated the government pretty much set the prices so airlines competed with each other with service and the tickets were much more expensive than they are today.
 

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I have flown I dare say hundreds of times, mostly work related (20 yrs Air Force) but much of it for pleasure in route to vacation locations all over the world, most of the time flying coach. I won't do it anymore. I've discovered something that has forever changed my flying experience for the better...fly first class. Yes it's more expensive but IMO, it's well worth it. These are the benefits I appreciate the most... the people you meet, faster status/perks, stress-free, and most importantly to me... time.

TIME... This is the most valuable benefit to me. You can show up at the airport later because your first-class boarding pass gives you access to a faster security line at most airports. And there are other “firsts” build into first class: You get to board first, and you’re off the plane first. Your bags come off the belt first (and you didn’t have to pay an additional fee to check them), helping you get to your destination sooner.

STRESS-FREE... This benefit pays off on particularly turbulent flights or if you are an uncomfortable flyer. According to ask the pilot.com, “The roughest spot is usually the far aft—the rearmost rows closest to the tail.” In addition, with more legroom, a bigger workspace, and less chance of encountering loud kids, you can focus on your projects and reduce the stress of a lost work day. (My heart goes out to parents with small children on planes; they’re just as stressed out about their restless children, so please you parents out there know I understand!) Need to recharge your body’s batteries with a good nap? You’re more likely to get those much-needed z’s in first class.

FASTER STATUS/PERKS... Some airlines have a “points vs. miles” system in their frequent traveler program. Purchased first class tickets get you more points than miles, meaning you reach higher status faster, with fewer flights. Of course, if you’re in first class because you used miles or points for an upgrade, you’ll only earn miles for economy. I reach my executive platinum status each year on American Airlines with points way before I reach 100,000 miles flown. That means I get the benefits of that status starting earlier in the year. And you’re less likely to need those end-of-year mileage runs to maintain your status.

THE PEOPLE YOU MEET... Since many of your fellow passengers in the front of the plane are business travelers, your flight becomes a networking opportunity. And you never know who you’re going to meet. On a flight from Frankfurt to Boston I sat next to the Dean of Harvard Medical School, who shared his tips for dealing with jetlag. I have met dozens of fascinating people with whom I stay in touch.
This should be the standard in general first class or not. A shame tbh
 

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This I agree with, but a lot of people complain because the airlines don't give the service it once did. Well, when the airlines were regulated the government pretty much set the prices so airlines competed with each other with service and the tickets were much more expensive than they are today.
Sure. The airports and airline services are not much fun anymore. I worked overseas for all my adult life and the changes are shocking and not for the better. It used to be fun to fly...now its just a hard part of the job.
 

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This should be the standard in general first class or not. A shame tbh

I dunno... Guess I'm not jaded by the whole thing. On my recent trip back & forth to the west coast we rode 3 planes out and 3 back– In economy. We were never late. The take offs & landings were decent. The flight attendants were friendly.

I'm not sure how much better it could be under the current circumstances, i.e. the threat of terrorism and the shear number of people that fly now.
 

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I'll never understand the big 'perk' of being able to board first. So you can go and sit, where you're going to sit for the next however many hours. Plus it's usually stuffy as hell in there while parked especially in the summer.
I sit in the terminal until final call, walk on alone and sit down. Also probably because I've been at the bar until they start calling to board.ha
 

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I'll never understand the big 'perk' of being able to board first. So you can go and sit, where you're going to sit for the next however many hours. Plus it's usually stuffy as hell in there while parked especially in the summer.
I sit in the terminal until final call, walk on alone and sit down. Also probably because I've been at the bar until they start calling to board.ha

Yea, I am good either way......first or last but hate being in the middle. Now, if ya have a carry-on and go last, good luck finding space for it :laugh:
 
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