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In 2013, who is a shut down corner? Richard Sherman is probably the best corner in the game right now and he gets burnt. With 2013 NFL rules there is no such thing as a shut down corner. Just isn't.

I agree.
 

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The goal should be to run your offensive game plan. You shouldn't force passes into one player to feed that player. If the throws are there you take them, if the throws aren't there you find where they should go.
 

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Dallas is second to Denver in points scored so far this season. Dallas is third in the league in TD passes. The solution is to improve the running game. Not totals, but the efficiency.

I don't know if those stats are true because I doubt we're 2nd in points but I don't have a problem with what the stats show. Stats always tell a different story. When you watch the games you see this team getting off to slow starts. You see them go on these scoring droughts. Its not a very good offense.
 

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I don't know if those stats are true because I doubt we're 2nd in points but I don't have a problem with what the stats show. Stats always tell a different story. When you watch the games you see this team getting off to slow starts. You see them go on these scoring droughts. Its not a very good offense.

Why would I bother to share stats that aren't true? Everything is easy to check and verify. The Cowboys 230 points is the second most in the league. They average 28.8 pts per game, which is 4th in the league.
 

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The point is that your top players should be utilized. Plain and simple....Dalton's picks were on him, bad throws behind guys. bengals blew the game "ala Dallas" by playing dumb. Featuring AJ Green however is not stupid.

Each and every team zeroes in on the opponents top guy. Exception being us, we singled up on Calvin.
But so what??? I guess the Vikes wont run Peterson because we have 8 in the box??? It all about creating ways to get the ball in the hands of your best weapon. Dallas doesnt!! We make it easy for the other team.

You've been sliced and diced in this thread right out of the gate... and now you want to talk about forcing Peterson with 8 in the box? Do you realize how awful that's turned out for the Vikings and how meaningless Peterson has been in games because they can't switch over to pass-first?

In the NFL defenses can take away certain plays and players...you have to be able to beat defenses a variety of ways.
 

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In 2013, who is a shut down corner? Richard Sherman is probably the best corner in the game right now and he gets burnt. With 2013 NFL rules there is no such thing as a shut down corner. Just isn't.

Richard Sherman isn't a shutdown corner but he is an elite corner. He is big and physical and causes turn-overs and helps in the run game, etc etc.

There are a number of ways to play corner in the NFL and be be successful. I'll use current or sure-fire future HOFers as examples:
  • Deion Sanders - GREAT pure Cover Corner. Not remotely physical. Such a good cover corner, his lack of physicality didn't matter.
  • Rod Woodson - Very good Cover Corner, Very Physical.
  • Charles Woodson - <Pretty> Good Cover Corner, Very Physical, however his best attribute was an absolute nose for the ball
  • Champ Bailer - Very Good Cover Corner -- Average at best in terms of physicality
If I rated Revis and Sherman like that (not saying these guys are HOF bound)

Revis - Very good cover corner - Average physicality
Sherman - Good cover corner -- average ball skill, Superior physicality due to his freakish size for CB
 

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And Dalton threw three picks and was likely zeroed in on AJ when he got sacked.

Dalton had a 6.7 YPA, 4.1 ANYPA and 56.5 passer rating when targeting Green last night. Not exactly a ringing endorsement.
 

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Why would I bother to share stats that aren't true? Everything is easy to check and verify. The Cowboys 230 points is the second most in the league. They average 28.8 pts per game, which is 4th in the league.

I guess I misunderstood you because while they may be #2 in points there are some teams who have hit bye weeks......but either way 4th as a average is very solid. But with the eye test this is not a very good offense. Far too inconsistent and when its time to milk the clock or control the clock they can't do it. Thank goodness the inconsistent defense has generated turnovers this year.
 

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No. People are pointing out that we do feature Dez, pretty much in the same ballpark as any other team features their top receiver. We might not be good if in fact it were true that we weren't featuring him. Yes, that's exactly what we're saying. ;) Actually, I think you are. Dez's catches by quarter: 11, 11, 13, 10. You were saying? And there it is, right on cue. "If anyone disagrees with me, there's no point arguing!" Great.

I love how people break comments being discussed into individual segments to try and make a point??? If someone catches 5-6 balls in 1st qtr in one game and 6 in the other 7, does that mean everything is equal??? I get it you dont like Dez, cool,its your opinion....My opinion is we dont use him as effectively as we could!!! So stop being Garretts PR guy with the stats....we dont see it the same way...
 

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So did you watch those games? Because even with 13 targets Dez should've been targeted more in that Chiefs game. No one could guard him. He DOMINATED Brandon Flowers. And in regards to the Lions and Rams games, I guess if you believe you can rely on the defense to give you 4 Turnovers and to have you in good field position all day from your Special Teams or if you can get 200+ yards from Demarco you can get some W's in there.

But in reality, your not going to get 200+ yards consistently from Demarco or 4 turnovers every game. But what you can do is feature Dez Bryant in the offense consistently. I can't believe this is even being debated. On a offense with a hurt Miles and Demarco, a offense where Witten is being taken out of games by double teams we are sitting here debating Dez shouldn't be featured more in the offense? Am I the only one that finds that insane?

Yes we are debating, and apparently not many agree with me on featuring Dez more!!! Insane indeed!!
 

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Carr isn't a shutdown corner. He is perhaps the Cowboys best corner, but he isn't on the same level as the great shutdown corners. Plus they were also giving Carr help. Nothing wrong with that approach. It just didn't work. Could have been worse if they just left Carr on an island the whole game.

Deion went up against the #1 receiver plenty of times. He often went up against Michael Irvin and Jerry Rice during his days. Look at the 1994 NFC championship game. They had plays when had Deion locking up Alvin Harper while they doubled Irvin for good portions of the game, but they also stuck Sanders on Michael one-on-one for good portions of the game as well. It doesn't have to be one or the other and Deion knows that.

I remember the doubling the #1 WR seemed to follow him and PI friendly Kevin Smith at the other end initially in Dallas after the SB. But I do remember him singling up on premier WRs early in his career like you mention.
 

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I love how people break comments being discussed into individual segments to try and make a point??? If someone catches 5-6 balls in 1st qtr in one game and 6 in the other 7, does that mean everything is equal??? I get it you dont like Dez, cool,its your opinion....My opinion is we dont use him as effectively as we could!!! So stop being Garretts PR guy with the stats....we dont see it the same way...

then stop using stats to try and prove your point.
 

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and at what point was the first throw??? 2nd qtr??? I guess that is when the lightbulb goes off in Garrett and Callahan's head....

First possession. I believe Romo tried to hit him on that short slant which they've had a hard time connecting on despite the many attempts.
 

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So I guess the OP wants 3 INTs and a Loss every week just so Dez can get his touches.
 

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Big deal if he was. You have to execute in all three phases if you want to give yourself a chance to win. When we begin to count on one area more than others, it creates an imbalance. Why do y'all think our 90's team was so successful? We executed in all three phases; leaving opponents no hope.
 

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You've been sliced and diced in this thread right out of the gate... and now you want to talk about forcing Peterson with 8 in the box? Do you realize how awful that's turned out for the Vikings and how meaningless Peterson has been in games because they can't switch over to pass-first?

In the NFL defenses can take away certain plays and players...you have to be able to beat defenses a variety of ways.

Dogpile on the OP if it makes you feel good.

But forcing AP the rock got them 10 wins and a playoff birth last year. Why would they do anything different?
 
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