All things Stephen McGee

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I'm one of the guys who has been pleased with what I could see as a fan of the progress of McGee, from when we drafted him to what he is now. When he played in preseason games last year and this year, I think he has played well. When he closed out the season last year, I also think he played fairly well considering the situation. Seems to have a good combination of size, mobility and arm strength.

The Cowboy coaching staff has a better understanding of where he is as a player as they see him everyday. What frustrates me is that apparently, they must believe he is not capable to step in and play well if needed. With Kitna's back injury, they tried for Orton and there's been chatter about other potential options.

Kitna, even when healthy, at this point in his career is not a very good starter. He has a lot of experience of course, which is always a plus. But McGee has been here in the same offensive system for 3 years now. He's no rookie at this point.

So saying McGee isn't as good as Kitna and we need another veteran is basically saying we're giving up on McGee. Think about it, we're ok with going with inexperienced players at other positions this season (guard, center, etc) but not with a 3 year veteran of the same offensive system. :bang2: :banghead:
 
If romo goes down mcgee cant beat the packers. Knock on wood everybod
 
Terence Newman700;4276700 said:
I prefer Mcgee over kitna

I thought McGee was a weird pick in the draft at the time and I have never been impressed with him. Not this past preseason. Not last season when him and the rest of our starters were facing the Eagles B team. Just never.
 
I like a mobile backup QB because it's hard to come off the bench and throw the ball all over the place.

I feel ok about McGee if he has to play because of his ability to run.
 
Well if we need a QB who will stare down a WR and lead a safety over there to intercept the ball.......McGee is your man.
 
CowboyManDan;4276675 said:
I'm one of the guys who has been pleased with what I could see as a fan of the progress of McGee, from when we drafted him to what he is now. When he played in preseason games last year and this year, I think he has played well. When he closed out the season last year, I also think he played fairly well considering the situation. Seems to have a good combination of size, mobility and arm strength.

The Cowboy coaching staff has a better understanding of where he is as a player as they see him everyday. What frustrates me is that apparently, they must believe he is not capable to step in and play well if needed. With Kitna's back injury, they tried for Orton and there's been chatter about other potential options.

Kitna, even when healthy, at this point in his career is not a very good starter. He has a lot of experience of course, which is always a plus. But McGee has been here in the same offensive system for 3 years now. He's no rookie at this point.

So saying McGee isn't as good as Kitna and we need another veteran is basically saying we're giving up on McGee. Think about it, we're ok with going with inexperienced players at other positions this season (guard, center, etc) but not with a 3 year veteran of the same offensive system. :bang2: :banghead:


First, while I agree Kitna is not a quality starter, most teams don't have a quality starter as their No. 2 guy. Kitna showed last year he can play and win games, so while he isn't a long term solution, I think he is a quality No. 2 man.

As for McGee, I don't think the team has given up on him, but they may be a little unsure if he is ready yet. Of course, Orton would have been much more of a sure thing, so the inquiry may have been just for the remainder of the season, and McGee would step in next year. McGee has definitely shown improvement each year, and next year with Kitna gone he's going to have to take a bigger step. In my mind, next training camp he either has to prove conclusively that he is going to be a strong backup or he will be gone. The development has to either reach a payoff point or it has to end and the team has to move on.
 
People expect way too much from backups here. The point of a backup is to get your team out alive to see another day. If they were great, they'd be starters somewhere.
 
I think McGee has progessed and this off season and training camp will give him a chance to prove himself.
 
SDCowboy85;4276740 said:
People expect way too much from backups here. The point of a backup is to get your team out alive to see another day. If they were great, they'd be starters somewhere.

Well that mentality will get you Wade Wilson and Jason Garrett as your backups and not a QB to lead your team for the 10 years after Aikman is gone. Sure they make good coaches, but they aren't starting QBs.

Expecting too much?? I believe we have been expecting too little of backups here.
 
I don't know what to think, because I don't know where the staff see's him in the grand scheme of things.

I think we'll know come next April, where the Cowboys see him
 
Deep_Freeze;4276751 said:
Well that mentality will get you Wade Wilson and Jason Garrett as your backups and not a QB to lead your team for the 10 years after Aikman is gone. Sure they make good coaches, but they aren't starting QBs.

Expecting too much?? I believe we have been expecting too little of backups here.

No point debating anything with him he's more worried about Romo's feelings then W's and L's. The worse our backup is the happier he will be cause it means we crash and burn if Romo goes down
 
CowboyManDan;4276675 said:
I'm one of the guys who has been pleased with what I could see as a fan of the progress of McGee, from when we drafted him to what he is now. When he played in preseason games last year and this year, I think he has played well. When he closed out the season last year, I also think he played fairly well considering the situation. Seems to have a good combination of size, mobility and arm strength.

The Cowboy coaching staff has a better understanding of where he is as a player as they see him everyday. What frustrates me is that apparently, they must believe he is not capable to step in and play well if needed. With Kitna's back injury, they tried for Orton and there's been chatter about other potential options.

Kitna, even when healthy, at this point in his career is not a very good starter. He has a lot of experience of course, which is always a plus. But McGee has been here in the same offensive system for 3 years now. He's no rookie at this point.

So saying McGee isn't as good as Kitna and we need another veteran is basically saying we're giving up on McGee. Think about it, we're ok with going with inexperienced players at other positions this season (guard, center, etc) but not with a 3 year veteran of the same offensive system. :bang2: :banghead:
no not at all! Nobodies givin up on Mcgee. Who's to say Orton would not have been QB #3. If Romo goes down, we would be down to 1 QB. Putting a claim in for Orton, says more about Rudy Carpenter than it does about McGee-IMO.
 
McGee protects the ball well, he has thrown only a couple of INTs since he has been here and has had one fumble when he got blind sided when going into his throwing motion.

Kitna has back issues, the only reason the Boys looked at Orton and may be looking at others is they are probably more comfortable with 3 available QBs. Says more about Kitna's back than McGee's ability.

McGee's got another year to prove himself roster worthy.
 
To clarify from my original post, I'm saying I like what I've seen on McGee and I am not giving up on him or suggesting he isn't suitable as a 2nd stringer. I think he makes a good 2nd stringer and am intrigued to see more of him. I am suggesting McGee is capable from what I have seen as a fan.

I'm simply bringing up what the Cowboys are seemingly signalling and that it frustrates me if it is indeed the case. Even though a guy like Orton is a somewhat proven veteran, he doesn't know the Cowboys offense or the intricacies of their offensive players and would have needed time to do so. McGee does, since he's been here 3 years. So I would prefer him as the backup over anyone currently available. It would just be frustrating to be giving up on a drafted player (4th rounder) at an important position...if the Cowboys are actually signalling that.
 
I'm afraid the Cowboys claim of Orton might be an indication of how the staff feels about Mcgee.
 
I personally would rather have McGee as a backup than Vince Young. And I'd rather have McGee than David Carr. And I'd rather have McGee than either Beck or Grossman.

But, that's just me.
 
I like McGee as a backup. I was all for cutting Kitna at the start of the year and having McGee as the back up. The try for Orton was not just about McGee, I think it had more to do with keeping him from the Bears. And as much as I like McGee, Orton is much better with proven ability so it would have been a win win if we got him.
 
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