Amanda Knox not guilty

[kristie]

not surprised if i'm being honest.

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20532271,00.html


P.S. if the mods want to merge this any other thread on this subject, go ahead. i don't mind.

 

[JBS]

this is yet another case in which I am not as knowledgeable as I would like to be..So if Knox didn't kill her roommate then who did? what was the motive? what happened? how do they know Knox didnt do it? I mean wasnt she convicted before? what happened?

again, im not knowledgeable here..im not suggesting she is guilty

 

[VietCowboy]

this is yet another case in which I am not as knowledgeable as I would like to be..So if Knox didn't kill her roommate then who did? what was the motive? what happened? how do they know Knox didnt do it? I mean wasnt she convicted before? what happened?

again, im not knowledgeable here..im not suggesting she is guilty

she's not guilty because there's reasonable doubt, not that she is innocent. They were just saying that the way the police collected evidence did not meet international standards and thus contaminants could be likely.

 

[casmith07]

she's not guilty because there's reasonable doubt, not that she is innocent. They were just saying that the way the police collected evidence did not meet international standards and thus contaminants could be likely.

It's Italy too, and the police are known to pull funny business in investigations.

 

[yimyammer]

this is yet another case in which I am not as knowledgeable as I would like to be..So if Knox didn't kill her roommate then who did? what was the motive? what happened? how do they know Knox didnt do it? I mean wasnt she convicted before? what happened?

again, im not knowledgeable here..im not suggesting she is guilty

I don't even know how to give you cliff notes on this, there is so much info out there, you could spend a year reading it all and I think your head might explode before you could piece all the conflicting stories into a cohesive conclusion.

The opinions are extreme, people either think she was completely railroaded or that she was always guilty as hell and I think there is probably a decent number of folks like myself who are scratching there heads thinking there is some funky stuff going on here, but not enough to justify keeping her in jail.

I happen to believe there was plenty of reasonable doubt to overturn her conviction and I just don't believe she did it, but there are a lot of people out there who would disagree with me vehemently.

 

[JBS]

I don't even know how to give you cliff notes on this, there is so much info out there, you could spend a year reading it all and I think your head might explode before you could piece all the conflicting stories into a cohesive conclusion.

The opinions are extreme, people either think she was completely railroaded or that she was always guilty as hell and I think there is probably a decent number of folks like myself who are scratching there heads thinking there is some funky stuff going on here, but not enough to justify keeping her in jail.

I happen to believe there was plenty of reasonable doubt to overturn her conviction and I just don't believe she did it, but there are a lot of people out there who would disagree with me vehemently.

wow, this story sounds kind of interesting...i had no idea

 

[TheCount]

Didn't the prosecutors initially say the murder was committed as part of some satanic ritual? In the U.S., could you imagine a lawyer trying to build that case against someone?

 

[Nirvana]

They have the real killer in jail already. They were trying to include Amanda and her boyfriend in the murder. It was bs and I am glad she is free.

 

[yimyammer]

wow, this story sounds kind of interesting...i had no idea

It is, but it will make you a little crazy if you're trying to keep an open mind while wading through both extremes.

It's much like discussing religion or politics < or Tony Romo >, not for the faint of heart

 

[JBS]

It is, but it will make you a little crazy if you're trying to keep an open mind while wading through both extremes.

It's much like discussing religion or politics < or Tony Romo >, not for the faint of heart

Tony Rom?!? Not sure I've heard about that guy..if hes as interesting as you say maybe I should look him up.

It can't be THAT complicated. Can it?

 

[Bigdog]

If you saw the 20/20 episode on this the other night, there was no way she could be found guilty. Not only that, but Italian judiciary system is totally different than ours. The prosecutor was under trial for a part in murder while trying this case. She is not out of the woods yet. In Italy, the prosecution can appeal the the decision of the judge on the defense's appeal and they are going to do that. Like I said, their court system is out there on what they can do.

 

[VietCowboy]

If you saw the 20/20 episode on this the other night, there was no way she could be found guilty. Not only that, but Italian judiciary system is totally different than ours. The prosecutor was under trial for a part in murder while trying this case. She is not out of the woods yet. In Italy, the prosecution can appeal the the decision of the judge on the defense's appeal and they are going to do that. Like I said, their court system is out there on what they can do.

For me, although there is not enough evidence, usually it is someone guilty who would try to put the blame on someone else. For her to slander the bar owner and implicate him for killing her roommate is downright despicable and really makes me question her character for her to accuse someone else. She can claim the police misinterpreted her, but they would not have arrested her boss without her implications. He won restitutions, so it is not like they didn't prove she tried to pin the murder on him.

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

Taking emotion out of it entirely, they did not have enough evidence there to prove their guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. Opinions will be what they will be, but the decision was just per the letter of the law.

 

[VietCowboy]

Taking emotion out of it entirely, they did not have enough evidence there to prove their guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. Opinions will be what they will be, but the decision was just per the letter of the law.

but she is not being tried in America, so we don't know what their laws are. Not everyone has the same standards as us. Just look at Sweden and that lunatic who went on a killing spree. He's not even going to spend the rest of his life in prison b/c there's a limit on how many years someone can spend in prison

 

[Faerluna]

I think there was a Dateline (or equivalent) special on the trial awhile back. Very interesting, but definitely no compelling evidence that would put it beyond reasonable doubt.

 

[yimyammer]

Tony Rom?!? Not sure I've heard about that guy..if hes as interesting as you say maybe I should look him up.

It can't be THAT complicated. Can it?

If you talk to the pro-guilt side, it gets really detailed, there are huge websites devoted to showing her guilt. The same is true for those that think she's innocent

The confusing part is whether we can trust our media, they have presented an Amanda is innocent case and haven't really covered the troubling asPects of her case (she confessed to being there, falsely accused lumumba, had conflicted alibi from her boyfriend, etc. etc). The Knox family has hired a PR firm that is said to be highly influencing the media and effectively censoring anything negative about her case. I find thus hard to believe, but then again the media seems to more lazy and sensational.

There's a 400+ page Massei report written by the judge that explains why she was found guilty in the original trial as well

It's really astounding read a seemingly well thought out analysis of an issue only to find an equally long analysis contradicting it. Like I said head explode! Fascinating to follow and I've learned a lot in the process

 

[kristie]

i just think the prosecutor was overeager & overzealous. he was probably looking to convict somebody regardless of the lack of evidence & sloppy police work.

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

but she is not being tried in America, so we don't know what their laws are. Not everyone has the same standards as us. Just look at Sweden and that lunatic who went on a killing spree. He's not even going to spend the rest of his life in prison b/c there's a limit on how many years someone can spend in prison

I realize that some of the concepts and length of sentences are different, but the Italian Justice system in a criminal trial still contains the basic instructions of needing to be convinced beyond a reasonable doubt. The DNA evidence that originally implicated Knox was blown out of the water. They really had nothing that directly linked her to the crime other than theories at that point. Seems pretty cut and dried to me, but you might just be talking over my head in an effort to poke fun at my expense. If that is the case, then carry on

 

[yimyammer]

If anyone wants to learn more about this case, go to this thread discussing the case in huge detail:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/3...can-trial-italy-cold-blooded-murderer-648983/

A poster named Henry17 is an avid Knox pro-guilter and is quite knowledgeable and persuasive on the issue, I don't agree with everything he says and I find his certainty to be very troubling, but he does leave me scratching my head quite often

 

[casmith07]

Pretty much confirming what I thought -- I spoke with an attorney at work today that spent quite a bit of time in Italy, and she said that she had two takeaways from Italy.

1. she never wanted to fall down on the sidewalk, for fear of getting an infection (apparently it's filthy), and;

2. she never wanted to get wrapped up in their criminal justice system, because it's corrupt as hell.