Amazing Photos of Iwo Jima Circa WWII

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Hostile;3291008 said:
One of the men who raised the flag at Iwo Jima was a Native American from here in Arizona named Ira Hayes. Johnny Cash wrote a song about him that is really a sad tale. There is a school named in his honor here, and I often wonder if people even know what he did.

Little known fact, the 3 men in that photo who survived played themselves in the John Wayne movie "The Sands of Iwo Jima." The flag they raised in the movie was the actual flag they raised. John Wayne handed it to Ira Hayes in the movie.

Actually, it was Pfc. Rene A. Gagnon.

It's also a little known fact, that this was the 1st flag that flew above Iwo, planted by Easy Company:
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Here's the pic of the original flag coming down, and the larger flag, believed to of been salvaged from Pearl Harbor, about to go up:
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From EyeWitnesstoHistory.com

Raising the Flag Over Iwo Jima, 1945​

The photograph at the right of Marines raising the American flag at the summit of Mt. Suribachi during the battle for Iwo Jima has become an enduring image of bravery and heroism. However, this was actually the second flag raised on the mountain's summit that day. The first flag-raising occurred a couple of hours earlier - shortly after Marines had gained the top of the mountain after hard fighting. This flag was deemed too small to be easily seen from the base of the mountain so a second, larger flag was raised.

The First Flag-Raising

Scott Tank sent us this eyewitness account of Cpl. Charles W. Lindberg, a friend and the last surviving member of the team that raised the first flag on the crest of Mt. Suribachi. Scott asked that we share Mr. Lindberg's story with you - we are honored to do so. Thank you Scott for sending us this account, and thank you Mr. Lindberg for the sacrifices you made during that bloody nightmare called Iwo Jima:

It was the job of the 28th Regiment, 5th Division, to capture Mount Suribachi. They reached the base of the mountain on the afternoon of February 21, and by nightfall the next day the Marines had almost completely surrounded it.

As part of that Marine group, 24-year-old Corporal Charles Lindberg, a combat veteran of the Guadalcanal and the Bougainville campaign, watched the intense bombardment of Iwo Jima and realized that the landing at Red Beach One would be anything but easy. "The Japs had the whole beach zeroed in. Most of the fire was coming from Suribachi," he recalled. Surrounding Mount Suribachi were cliffs, tunnels, mines, booby traps, and ravines. The hostile terrain proved to be as tough an enemy as the Japanese who were firmly entrenched on the mountain.

At 8 a.m. on February 23, a patrol of 40 men from 3rd Platoon, E Company, 2nd Battalion, 28th Marines, led by 1LT Lieutenant Harold G. Schrier, assembled at the base of Mount Suribachi. The platoon's mission was to take the crater of Suribachi's peak and raise the U.S. flag. As a member of the first combat patrol to scale Mount Suribachi, Cpl Lindberg took his 72-pound flamethrower and started the tortuous climb up the rough terrain to the top.

As they reached the top, the patrol members took positions around the crater watching for pockets of enemy resistance as other members of the patrol looked for something on which to raise the flag. Present at the crest were six Marines of a 40-man patrol. They were 1LT Lieutenant Schrier, Sergeant Thomas, Sergeant Hansen, Private First Class Charlo, Private First Class Michels, and Corporal Charles W. Lindberg.

At approximately 10:20 a.m., the flag was hoisted on a steel pipe above the island. The sight of the small American flag flying from atop Mount Suribachi thrilled men all over the island. And for the first time during WWII, an American flag was flying above what was considered traditional Japanese territory. This symbol of victory sent a wave of strength to the battle-weary fighting men below, and struck a further mental blow against the island's defenders.

Marine Corps photographer Sergeant Lou Lowery captured this first flag raising on film just as the enemy hurled a grenade in his direction. Dodging the grenade, Lowery hurled his body over the edge of the crater and tumbled 50 feet. His camera lens was shattered, but he and his film were safe.

As Cpl Lindberg would later remark, "Suribachi was easy to take; it was getting there that was so hard!" Of the 40-man patrol, thirty-six were killed or wounded in later fighting on Iwo Jima including Lindberg himself who would be shot through the stomach and arm a week later on 1 March, 1945. For his heroism Lindberg would receive the Purple Heart and Silver Star Medal with the citation reading in part:

"Repeatedly exposing himself to hostile grenades and machine-gun fire in order that he might reach and neutralize enemy pill-boxes at the base of Mount Suribachi, Corporal Lindberg courageously approached within ten or fifteen yards of the emplacements before discharging his weapon, thereby assuring the annihilation of the enemy and the successful completion of this platoon's mission. While engaged in an attack on hostile cave positions on March 1, he fearlessly exposed himself to accurate enemy fire and was subsequently wounded and evacuated."

References:
Ross, Bill D., Iwo Jima: Legacy of Valor (1985); Wheller, Richard, Iwo (1980).
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Aikmaniac;3291504 said:
I've been to many aviation museums, including Warner-Robbins AFB, the Mighty 8th Museum, etc., however that Udvar-Hazy Museum takes the cake. The space shuttle Enterprise, an SR-71, the first Boeing 707, an FW-190, the Enola Gay, a Concord...the list goes on and on.

Yes, you can spend hours upon hours in there looking at everything. The one museum/display I have not been to is Davis-Mothan or Pima, which is your neck of the woods, Hos. I expect that aircraft graveyard will give me goosebumps.

I also was very close to visiting the Imperial War Museum in Duxford when we were all in England last season. I hope I get another chance.

EDIT: By the way, if anyone wants to research a site dedicated to the P-51, try www.mustangsmustangs.com. Every mustang still airworthy is logged.
You ever come to Tucson, I will take you down every road to show you the sheer size of the airplane graveyard. It will take your breath away. Here are some amazing facts about it. Almost every plane in the reserve section can be made flight worthy in 48 hours each. The United States has the largest Air Force in the world. If that base was an Air Force it would be the 4th largest in the world by itself.

I worked right down the road from the graveyard and the Pima Air & Space Museum for 5 years. I passed by them both every day.
 

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I've passed that graveyard several times, and I always found myself going REALLY slow on the freeway just so I could get a good look at it. It really is impressive.

On another note, in regards to the photography in the link, a couple months ago I posted a link to a bunch of photos from the Iraq war. Very impressive shots, captivating really.

Anyway, I couldn't get over how cool the images and the photography were, and that alone got me into photography pretty hardcore. Since then I have bought a Nikon D90, a Nikon 18-200mm lens, a Tokina 11-17 ultrawide lens (which is wicked), and I'm currently looking for Macro lens. I can't get enough of this photography stuff.

When you step into a Digital SLR with all the trimmings, I can't explain to you just how much fun it is, and the quality of photographs you can take. I'd love to walk around that graveyard with this camera.
 

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Great collection of photos! I am sharing it with others....Thanks!

My father flew into Iwo Jima late in the war, with his B-24 group that had been in New Guinea. They were prepping for low level bombing of Japan for the invasion. He probably got saved by the use of the A bomb.

Interestingly, for all the P51 love, there was a squadron of American aviators in Italy that had been flying Spitfire Xs on reverse lend lease, that got them replaced with P51s. They hated the P51, apparantly the Spitfire was much more agile, though it suffered from lower firepower and lessor range and armor.

Also, my father ran the training airfields for helicopters in Ft Rucker during the run up to full deployment in Vietnam. They were also working with the first real helicopter gunships, the Cobra. The airfield had a pair of P51s that they used as chase planes for the Cobras, and also as a PR trick for the older generals that came through who remembered/had flown them during WWII. I remember going out a couple of times at dawn, and watching all the hundreds of Hueys take off, and the P51s and Cobras prep and fly off.
 

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CowboyWay;3292081 said:
I've passed that graveyard several times, and I always found myself going REALLY slow on the freeway just so I could get a good look at it. It really is impressive.

On another note, in regards to the photography in the link, a couple months ago I posted a link to a bunch of photos from the Iraq war. Very impressive shots, captivating really.

Anyway, I couldn't get over how cool the images and the photography were, and that alone got me into photography pretty hardcore. Since then I have bought a Nikon D90, a Nikon 18-200mm lens, a Tokina 11-17 ultrawide lens (which is wicked), and I'm currently looking for Macro lens. I can't get enough of this photography stuff.

When you step into a Digital SLR with all the trimmings, I can't explain to you just how much fun it is, and the quality of photographs you can take. I'd love to walk around that graveyard with this camera.

I missed those photos the first time around. Great images, thanks for sharing.
 

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I wondered if Johnny Cash's song about Ira Hayes was on youtube. It was. No video with this one.

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I also looked Ira Hayes on Wikipedia (yeah I know) and this really hit me.

In 1954, after a ceremony where he was lauded by President Eisenhower as a hero, a reporter rushed up to him and asked him, "How do you like the pomp and circumstance?" Hayes hung his head and said, "I don't."

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arglebargle;3292224 said:
Great collection of photos! I am sharing it with others....Thanks!

My father flew into Iwo Jima late in the war, with his B-24 group that had been in New Guinea. They were prepping for low level bombing of Japan for the invasion. He probably got saved by the use of the A bomb.

Interestingly, for all the P51 love, there was a squadron of American aviators in Italy that had been flying Spitfire Xs on reverse lend lease, that got them replaced with P51s. They hated the P51, apparantly the Spitfire was much more agile, though it suffered from lower firepower and lessor range and armor.

Also, my father ran the training airfields for helicopters in Ft Rucker during the run up to full deployment in Vietnam. They were also working with the first real helicopter gunships, the Cobra. The airfield had a pair of P51s that they used as chase planes for the Cobras, and also as a PR trick for the older generals that came through who remembered/had flown them during WWII. I remember going out a couple of times at dawn, and watching all the hundreds of Hueys take off, and the P51s and Cobras prep and fly off.

I'm sure your father has told you many interesting stories like these before.

Over the past 5 or so years, I have kept in contact with a member of the 78th FG which was stationed in Duxford during the latter part of the European conflict of WWII. To this day, he loves the P-47 Thunderbolt (Jug) and preferred it to the Mustang. The Jug could take a pounding and bring everyone back however the Mustang could be down with one shot to the cooling system.

Anywho, the Mustang is my all-time favorite aircraft next to the F-14 Tomcat. There's nothing like hearing that Merlin purr on a fly-by. In my opinion, I believe we would be speaking German had the Mustang not had come about. The B-17's, B-24's, etc. finally had escorts to and from the target and wouldn't be alone.
 

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Hostile;3295151 said:
This is chilling.

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The caption says those are the dog tags of all who fell on Mt. Suribachi.

Looks like it's in the form of a soldier. How fitting. Is it wise to expose those tags to the sun and the elements? Maybe it was just a temporary (open air) exhibit.
 

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Hostile;3295151 said:
This is chilling.

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The caption says those are the dog tags of all who fell on Mt. Suribachi.

It's also chilling how those tags will still be there after we are all dead and gone too.
 

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Bob Sacamano;3295206 said:
It's also chilling how those tags will still be there after we are all dead and gone too.

6 men paid with their lives, Japanese and American combined, for every acre of land on that speck of dirt in the Pacific. I think the hair on the back of my neck would stand on end for hours if ever I get the chance to walk such hallowed ground.
 

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SaltwaterServr;3296176 said:
6 men paid with their lives, Japanese and American combined, for every acre of land on that speck of dirt in the Pacific. I think the hair on the back of my neck would stand on end for hours if ever I get the chance to walk such hallowed ground.

In terms of world history, I wonder what the record is for the most men dying for the smallest piece of land.
 

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bbgun;3296284 said:
In terms of world history, I wonder what the record is for the most men dying for the smallest piece of land.

Gotta be Leningrad in WW2. You had something like 5 million dead there, IIRC.

On a tangent, I would be willing to be Jerusalem holds the record for the most dead per acre due to conflict, cumulative.
 

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You can go by piece of land or how many died quickly. At Cold Harbor in 1864 7000 men fell in only about an hour on the Union Side. Pre MG and heavy artillery that was considered the record. Then WW1 came along and it was many times worse. There were 5 separate battles that each had over 1 million casualties. And in each one the front lines barely moved at all.
 

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Failure of doctrine to catch up with technology in WWI. Plus some really awful generalship.
 

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Failure of doctrine to catch up with technology in WWI. Plus some really awful generalship.

Yep, it was Old World infantry tactics of charging fixed fortifications with modern weapons.
 

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This makes me look forward to The Pacific. These are truly incredible photos. Just amazing.
 

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Hostile;3291008 said:
One of the men who raised the flag at Iwo Jima was a Native American from here in Arizona named Ira Hayes. Johnny Cash wrote a song about him that is really a sad tale. There is a school named in his honor here, and I often wonder if people even know what he did.

Little known fact, the 3 men in that photo who survived played themselves in the John Wayne movie "The Sands of Iwo Jima." The flag they raised in the movie was the actual flag they raised. John Wayne handed it to Ira Hayes in the movie.

Thanks for sharing the photos Hos. Great stuff.

Ira Hayes - ah yes, great song. I liked Townes Van Zandts version the best.
 
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