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Woods;2159983 said:
That's what concerns me about Amendola as well. I'm not sure he will be able to get separation.

He seems to have excellent hands, is able to run precise routes and has grit, but lacks size and quite possibly elite quickness (i.e., doesn't have W Welker's quickness) according to various scouting reports.
He has excellent quickness that isn't in question. As far as being in shorts the guy has already shown an ability to get separation. He has to prove that in pads when guys can get their hands on him.
 

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~wonders why we always compare him to Welker~ I'll be he's sick of it too.
 

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Found a couple of vids on Danny(don't know if they have been posted here before).

First one is a highlight video, second is a critique predraft on him. Sounds like as long as he is not in press coverage(i.e. put him in motion Jason), he can get separation. The highlight video shows a solid possession type receiver and serviceable return man, but he gets tackled to easily IMO. I'm rooting for him but don't think he is the savior some people make him out to be.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-zNzpwKxEA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGorYSLFwzk
 

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gollum;2160129 said:
Found a couple of vids on Danny(don't know if they have been posted here before).

First one is a highlight video, second is a critique predraft on him. Sounds like as long as he is not in press coverage(i.e. put him in motion Jason), he can get separation. The highlight video shows a solid possession type receiver and serviceable return man, but he gets tackled to easily IMO. I'm rooting for him but don't think he is the savior some people make him out to be.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-zNzpwKxEA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGorYSLFwzk
I really don't see where he was tackled easily, he seemed to always be getting extra yardage when being tackled.(based on those highlights)
 

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You are in denial if you don't believe the fact he went to the same college as Welker, is white like Welker, is short like Welker and has been dubbed Welker II by both the media and even our own players doesn't play into expectations right now.

Very few people have seen him play a second of football with us, but that doesn't stop them from penciling him in as our sixth or even fifth WR on the roster. It is utterly ridiculous at this stage.


Well, it might be utterly ridiculous, but he's apparently having yet another impressive day at camp....even beating Newman. I don't see why it's foolish to root for the guy.
 

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Alexander;2160002 said:
Could you exagerrate more? I never said the media shouldn't report it.

The media has every right to report it as they should.

What the average imbecile does with that information is the problem.



He was a solid college player. He was not "impressive". I don't know of many "impressive" players that simply go undrafted. Not in today's age where every team copycats. If he truly had the makings of Wes Welker II, you don't think some team would have taken a flier on him?



Drawing conclusions from padless practices and YouTube highlights? Even dumber.

Talk when he actually produces something tangible. Thanks.

Actually I thought Romo was impressive enough as a college QB to merit being drafted-- and I'm not saying that in hindsight... look at the numbers and the award. He was a good college QB.
 

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In the videos, you can see the quickness when people are next to him, he uses their body lean against them (quick cuts against the grain/flow).

Also once he is beside them or in front of them, he wasn't being ran down due to his speed or lack there of.

This guy has quickness that Crayton doesn't have. Question is, can it be enough at the next level? I hope so. If Crayton had these quick moves, he wouldn't be known as "Joe Faircatch". :D
 

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11:41 -- I regret to report that I can't see anything happening in inside run drills. Hopefully, one of my cohorts on the field will have a better view. ... Danny Amendola isn't a blazer, but he makes sharp cuts and gets separation. He just caught a ball across the middle with Alan Ball trailing by a few yards. ... Mike Jefferson beat Anthony Henry on a similar route. ... Should be noted that WRs have a huge advantage in 1-on-1 drills with no pass rush or safeties/LBs lurking over the middle. ... Nice, subtle push-off by Sam Hurd to get wide-open vs. Terence Newman on an out route.

11:43 -- Danny Amendola continues to impress. Terence Newman couldn't get a jam on him. Amendola got open enough to catch an out route on the sideline. ... Miles Austin isn't getting great separation on crossing routes, but he's doing a nice job of using his 6-3, 216-pound frame to shield defenders.
 

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dueyhemlock;2160189 said:
In the videos, you can see the quickness when people are next to him, he uses their body lean against them (quick cuts against the grain/flow).

Also once he is beside them or in front of them, he wasn't being ran down due to his speed or lack there of.

This guy has quickness that Crayton doesn't have. Question is, can it be enough at the next level? I hope so. If Crayton had these quick moves, he wouldn't be known as "Joe Faircatch". :D

Romo's going to make it into another post of mine, but he does the same thing. He uses a defender's own "lean" against them.

That has nothing to do with quickness or speed. That's just inherent body control. When I was young I played football with a kid that had that type of body control, he wasn't the fastest or quickest either, but he knew how to "twitch" in one direction and sure as ****, you'd start leaning in that direction, and of course he'd be gone in the other direction.

Not saying that this kid from Tech even makes the team but the ability to run crisp routes combined with the other intagibles could allow him to not just stick but be a guy that makes a reasonable contribution to this offense come this season.
 

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If I remember correctly Welker won the Oklahoma State Title in the 100m in high school.
 

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Amendola’s plight is not that much different from the plight of Wes Welker coming out of college. Here is Wikipedia’s account of Welker’s start:

After his senior season at Texas Tech, Welker went undrafted in the 2004 NFL Draft but ended up signing as a free agent with the San Diego Chargers.[8]

[edit] Professional career

[edit] 2004

Despite making the Chargers' roster out of training camp, Welker was cut after the first week of the 2004 season and signed with the Miami Dolphins, where he was mostly used on special teams. Playing against the Patriots on October 10, 2004, Welker became the second player in NFL history to return a kickoff and a punt, kick an extra point and a field goal, and make a tackle in a single game.

[edit] 2005

During training camp at the beginning of the 2005 season, Welker was promoted to the third wide receiver spot after Chris Chambers and Marty Booker. He finished the season with 29 receptions for 434 yards and no touchdowns. He also had 43 punt returns for 390 yards, a 9.1 average, and 61 kickoff returns for 1,379 yards, a 22.6 average. These ranked 11th and 20th in the NFL, respectively.

[edit] 2006

After rumors that he would be cut during the preseason, Welker started off being the lone bright-spot of the struggling Miami Dolphins offense. Through five games, he netted a team-high 29 catches and team-high 299 yards. During Week five, he was a huge target for back-up quarterback Joey Harrington, recording a then-career high nine catches for 77 yards in the 20-10 loss to the New England Patriots. On the season, Welker had a team-best 67 receptions for 687 yards and one score. He returned 48 kickoffs for 1,048 yards (22.2 average) and 41 punts for 378 yards (9.2 average).

[edit] 2007

On March 1, 2007, the Dolphins offered Welker, a restricted free agent, a second-round tender (the second-lowest tender) of $1.35 million for a one-year contract. The Patriots, who were interested in Welker, had originally considered signing Welker, a restricted free agent, to an offer sheet which Miami would have had seven days to match; according to The Boston Globe, that sheet would have contained a poison pill provision which would have made the offer difficult for the Dolphins to match.[9] Ultimately, however, the Patriots decided not to use such an offer, and traded the Dolphins their 2007 second- and seventh-round draft picks for Welker.

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MichaelWinicki;2160215 said:
Not saying that this kid from Tech even makes the team but the ability to run crisp routes combined with the other intagibles could allow him to not just stick but be a guy that makes a reasonable contribution to this offense come this season.

I think that's really what most people that are high on him are hoping for (myself included). I don't think anyone thinks Amendola is going to seriously challenge for the number #2 receiver spot or number #3 if counting Witten. A solid slot receiver that could be depended on in a 3rd down to catch what is thrown at him would be great for the price Dallas will pay him.

The fact that this "slow small white kid" beat our probowl CB on a double move is a sign that this is possible. Granted it's only TC, but Amendola is having a good start so far.
 

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Hostile;2159940 said:
I can't remember more hype for an undrafted player in my life. I hope he can live up to it. I have my doubts.

Is he a white guy? Otherwise I can't figure out all the adulation and courtseying to this rookie.
;)
 

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Yakuza Rich;2159807 said:
Strange because all of the Texas Tech coaches say he's faster than Welker, but not as quick. That being said, if you're quick but not that fast you're really better suited to play in the slot where you have more room to roam and don't have to worry about the sideline.




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probably this, 40's only mean so much, its such a short distance, some players take a little more time to get up to top speed. let welker and admendola run a 100 meters and see which one wins. from what i read betcha admendola wins.
 

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Straight ahead speed only matters when your running down the sideline (or whatever) over a period of time. The difference between 4.4 and 4.5 is the bat of an eye. Over time and distance the seperation will eventually become greater.

But thats not thye type of plyer he appears to be anyway. If he is making cuts and playing underneath, 4.5 or whatever is more than fast enough.
 

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Like we has already been said, the NFL is a copycat league. The Pats got Welker & really helped their offense. Now the Cowboys are looking at a similar player to Welker in Danny Amandola and it will be interesting to see if he continues to shine rest of TC but even more importantly is what he can do in preseason games. The reality is we need to know how well Amandola looks as the quality of play increases. It will also be real interesting to see how Jefferson & Bradford do in preseason games along with Amendola. Releasing Glenn possibly opened up a slot/window if one of these WRs can walk thru it. One key will be how soon this WR can really contribute to the Cowboys. Obviously the Cowboys will also be checking the waiver wires and keeping an ear close to the ground for any rumors that a good WR might be available for the right price.
 

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dooomsday;2161078 said:
Straight ahead speed only matters when your running down the sideline (or whatever) over a period of time. The difference between 4.4 and 4.5 is the bat of an eye. Over time and distance the seperation will eventually become greater.

But thats not thye type of plyer he appears to be anyway. If he is making cuts and playing underneath, 4.5 or whatever is more than fast enough.
The Cowboys used to have a WR named Mike Renfro who the other players joked that they had to time with a calender. But Renfro could get open as consistently as any WR I've ever seen. I heard him talk about it once and he said that it was more about getting the right angles to leave an opening for the QB to see him and shielding the DB from the point where the ball would be going.

Speed is a great attribute for a WR to have. It scares the hell out of CB's to have to face a guy who can run right past them. But it is not the be-all-end-all for the position. Running crisp clean routes and knowing where to go to get open is just as important and maybe even more important. Being smart is a big advantage for a WR and if he can learn how to do the little subtle things right this Amendola kid could become a useful tool in our offense. I don't see him as ever being our #1 or #2 but he could become a significant contributor.
 
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