An advisor to help build an offense that maximizes talent

waldoputty · Sep 13, 2018

ABQCOWBOY said:
This. We've tried that before and it really hasn't worked all that well. I don't see any reason to expect anything differently. In fact, all that would do, IMO, is provide more cover for this coaching staff. Honestly though, if you need an adviser, then why are you paying the guys you are paying to coach? That doesn't make sense to me. JMO

just like it took richard a very short time to move bjones to cb, i think a smart consultant would be able to institute change in the offense, if given jones' support.

waldoputty · Sep 13, 2018

John813 said:
Only way I see him leaving FAU is a power 5 team offers him a HC gig or he is an OC in the NFL.
Adviser? Doubtful.

pay him $1M per year for 30 days of time.
pay his school a couple $M per year to allow him to consult

CATCH17 · Sep 13, 2018

waldoputty said:
lane kiffin is now a headcoach at a small college program.
he modernized alabama's offense and many think he is a real genius offensive mind.
he also is supposed to be good in adapting the offense based on talent.

now he is a really difficult person and probably not someone you want to bring in as a coach.
but jerry can pay him and bribe the school for a day per week as an advisor.

NO thanks on that guy.

These NFL guys have too big of ego's to let this happen.

Wasn't it Dan Reeves that Wade Phillips wanted to help Garrett and Jerry figured out a way to basically get him to not accept the job? Made him punch a time clock?

cowboy_ron · Sep 13, 2018

Drinking while posting should be illegal.

waldoputty · Sep 13, 2018

Mr_C said:
I’m sure there’s no way we’d do something “outside of the box” like that.

Good idea though

we agree there, but that is all we can get in the middle of a season

ABQCOWBOY · Sep 13, 2018

waldoputty said:
just like it took richard a very short time to move bjones to cb, i think a smart consultant would be able to institute change in the offense, if given jones' support.

Well, as I said, we've tried it before and it's never worked. Why would it work now?

waldoputty · Sep 13, 2018

ABQCOWBOY said:
Well, as I said, we've tried it before and it's never worked. Why would it work now?

because garrett may finally have worn off his credibility after another how many years?

ABQCOWBOY · Sep 13, 2018

waldoputty said:
because garrett may finally have worn off his credibility after another how many years?

Think about what you are saying here. If Garrett has reached that point, then why not just fire him and replace him. Why hire a consultant?

waldoputty · Sep 13, 2018

ABQCOWBOY said:
Think about what you are saying here. If Garrett has reached that point, then why not just fire him and replace him. Why hire a consultant?

because it is hard to replace him in the middle of the season.
this is the bandaid that also allows the team to evaluate a different offense without waiting for next year.
it is pretty clear the existing staff refuses to or is unable to make those changes.

ABQCOWBOY · Sep 13, 2018

waldoputty said:
because it is hard to replace him in the middle of the season.
this is the bandaid that also allows the team to evaluate a different offense without waiting for next year.
it is pretty clear the existing staff refuses to or is unable to make those changes.

We are not in the middle of the season, we are at the very beginning but lets say we were half way through, still I don't get the value of doing this. It hasn't worked in the past and if you are relying on it to work this time around, then why not just hire a new head coach? If you need a consultant to call plays for you, then how far are you really going to get in the season? Lets say you make the playoffs, how many teams are you going to beat? All you are really doing is worsening your draft stock by artificially propping up Garrett and his staff. Why would you want to do that? Besides, Lane Kiffin is not who I would ever want associated with this team. JMO

Sydla · Sep 13, 2018

waldoputty said:
lane kiffin is now a headcoach at a small college program.
he modernized alabama's offense and many think he is a real genius offensive mind.
he also is supposed to be good in adapting the offense based on talent.

now he is a really difficult person and probably not someone you want to bring in as a coach.
but jerry can pay him and bribe the school for a day per week as an advisor.

If you have to bring in an advisor that’s a sure sign your OC and offensive minded HC probably need to get launched to the moon.

waldoputty · Sep 13, 2018

ABQCOWBOY said:
We are not in the middle of the season, we are at the very beginning but lets say we were half way through, still I don't get the value of doing this. It hasn't worked in the past and if you are relying on it to work this time around, then why not just hire a new head coach? If you need a consultant to call plays for you, then how far are you really going to get in the season? Lets say you make the playoffs, how many teams are you going to beat? All you are really doing is worsening your draft stock by artificially propping up Garrett and his staff. Why would you want to do that? Besides, Lane Kiffin is not who I would ever want associated with this team. JMO

i dont want lane kiffin as a coach. as a consultant that does not deal with the players, that is ok imo.

if you want to tank, that is fine with me.

it would be useful to figure out what offense works better with the offense before next draft/fa though.

waldoputty · Sep 13, 2018

Sydla said:
If you have to bring in an advisor that’s a sure sign your OC and offensive minded HC probably need to get launched to the moon.

yea, but may not be so doable in the middle of the season.

Batman1980 · Sep 13, 2018

jsb357 said:
any candidate would have to be able to deal with the strings of the puppetmaster.

Remember the Dan Reeves hire a few years back?

Dan Reeves never actually came! The last great offensive mind we had was Payton and he ran straight to the Saints

ABQCOWBOY · Sep 13, 2018

waldoputty said:
i dont want lane kiffin as a coach. as a consultant that does not deal with the players, that is ok imo.

if you want to tank, that is fine with me.

it would be useful to figure out what offense works better with the offense before next draft/fa though.

Perhaps, but lets say Garrett gets fired and you hire a new HC. There is nothing that says the new staff will continue on with whatever Kiffen or anybody else might implement. If no change is made, then I don't see Garrett and Linehan keeping anything provided by a consultant. That's just not who they are. They have their own ideas and they are not going to change them. I mean, hey, if Jerry wants to spend his money on that, it's his to spend. I just don't see it really helping but again, not my decision.

That's just my opinion.

dallasdave · Sep 13, 2018

waldoputty said:
yea, but may not be so doable in the middle of the season.

Super Bowl Win or bust

dallasdave · Sep 13, 2018

waldoputty said:
pay him $1M per year for 30 days of time.
pay his school a couple $M per year to allow him to consult

Give me $1M and I will give everyone some advice :omg:

dallasdave · Sep 13, 2018

waldoputty said:
because garrett may finally have worn off his credibility after another how many years?

Finally

dallasdave · Sep 13, 2018

waldoputty said:
just like it took richard a very short time to move bjones to cb, i think a smart consultant would be able to institute change in the offense, if given jones' support.

Richard Rules :hammer:

SuspectCorner · Sep 13, 2018

Lane Kiffin? I'd rather have Mike Leach.

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