An aggressive two year plan to be competitive

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The roster Brian Schottenheimer has inherited as of this moment is not going to strike fear in any opponents eyes. There are obviously a few talented players here but if we plan on getting to at least that elusive conference championship, here‘s a mini-vision to get that done. Holes are abundant but they can be addressed fairly quickly. I think it will realistically take two years to develop.

Heres the big picture plan and it starts in the trenches where all great teams are built. Quite simply, the Cowboys need to get waaaaaay more physical. The two teams playing the SB this year (and most years) have a dominant DT (chiefs have Chris Jones, egirls have Jalen Carter) Time for us to recognize this and take action.
  • Here’s a truth long forgotten in Dallas: The fastest way to build a great roster is to start with the trenches. A dominant OL/DL is a foundation! Focus on developing a monster of an OL and DL. We need at least 2 new starting OL and at least 2 beast DL run stoppers/pocket collapsers. This year’s draft is deep in DTs who could immediately have an impact.
  • Don’t take the bait in drafting a RB at 12. Don’t do it. This is a deep draft for RBs and we can get a really good one on Day 2. Drafting a RB in round one is a waste because unless you find a generational talent, they will be washed in 5-6 years. Hello Zeke.
  • Add at least two upgrades a year with FAs. I don’t care what a talking Jones guy tells us that we are a “draft and develop” team only, without at least 2-3 mid-level FAs a year added to your roster, you cannot be a serious contender. The next two years we should look at adding help at LB, WR, and perhaps OL if the draft doesn’t give us immediate impact.
  • Since are stuck with Dak for at least 3 years, build a monster OL and running game. The top 6 rushing teams in this league all made the playoffs in 2024 and it‘s a trend. A strong running game is exactly what Dak needs. A great running game opens play action back up, something we haven’t been able to use effectively in a while.
  • Consider two key June 1 cuts that can save future cap space. Many won’t like this but I would release Trevon Diggs as a June 1 cut and Terance Steele in 2026 as a June 1 cut. Diggs IMO will never be the same with his knee and he costs way too much to be just above average. Deron Bland is better anyway. Steele is already in decline and we could possibly move Tyler Guyton to RT at some point which is a more comfortable position for his skills. Tough decisions have to made and this FO isn’t ruthless enough with its roster.
Amazingly, the fundamentals of football still matter, especially if you don’t have an elite QB, which very few teams do. (Jalen Hurts is nothing special but he’s surrounded by a great OL and running game) The teams that can block and tackle the best are always going to be competitive. So let’s build a big, physical monster of a team the next two years!
Good stuff. Couple of points:

1. I agree on the RBs in this draft. I really don't see a game changer at the position.
2. OL and running game. Agree completely. Then, if Dak doesn't work out, you're ready for the next guy.
3. Diggs. Me and football buds have been saying the same thing. He appears to be done. He was not good last year.
4. Question: Why do you think Guyton is better at ORT? Yes, he played ORT in college, but he was actually playing OLT as their QB was left handed. He appears to have the skillset to play OLT. I mean, we knew he was raw coming in, should not have been forced to start in 24. Yes, we took yet another project early in the draft!!!!
 

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Trenches easier said than done. Last 4 first round picks went on OL / DL.
Yes, but we needed a football guy in charge to avoid mistakes such as Mazi and to closely examine picks of raw players such as Guyton.

Oh, and a simple evaluation of his skillset/play easily pointed toward Tyler being an OG. Do you really want to take your OGs in the 1st?
 

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No one. You're taking a great poster in BobHaze and sticking him into the Dakspew.
Wasn't trying to drag him into anything. I agree with him on items like Diggs. I just feel like we won't be competitive with Dak.

Depends on how you define "competitive", of course. If we stay fairly healthy and actually sign some decent FAs, we could be competitive to make the playoffs this year.
 

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I agree with a lot of this, especially building in the trenches first. But I need to know more about Guyton before I spend draft picks or CAP space on that spot. Does he come back better in 2025? I would take my chances that Guyton and Beebe will improve over last year. I would start with the defensive line. I think the Cowboys need to spend a couple of draft picks on DT, one of the top 2.. Then they can let Osa go because he is going to cost them too much money. Every mock draft I run, I find DTs on day 2 and 3 that look like they could help. I don't put much faith in mocks but the fact is, there are a lot of DTs in the draft which is perfect timing for the Cowboys.

I also think taking an Edge guy early is not the worst decision in the world if that impact DT is not there for them. If Walker is there for example, having him play opposite Parsons might make the pass rush much more effective.

I absolutely agree on not taking a RB at 12. I know a lot of people will hate passing on Jeanty, if he is there, but I would. There are guys who will get the job done later in the draft. And your point about RBs being washed up in 5 years is spot on. There is the option to take 2 RBs in this draft. One quick and speedy RB1 and maybe later a pounder. The one thing that might be different this year, is watching the Eagles success with Barkley may convince some teams that taking a RB would make them a better team and the RBs could go early.

I agree on the free agents. We don't have to go big either. Guys in the second tier of free agency will help. Maybe we find a Zack Baun type who gets paid nothing but turns out to have a breakout year. I don't mean a LB, I am talking about the contract. The point is we don't need to sign 20 guys like WAshington did. But adding two solid players will help.

I disagree with the June 1 cuts. First, June 1 cuts don't help much in 2025. I understand why you would want to cut both Diggs and Steele, but perhaps that could wait one more season. Also, I hate cutting players with good reputations like Diggs. Let him come back from injury then see if he can get us anything in return in a trade. Even if he gets us a 3 it's better than nothing. If we are going to rebuild, then draft picks are needed and getting them in trades is how the Eagles and Lions got it done. Cutting him doesn't even get us a comp pick. I am not convinced Diggs is done. I would have to know a lot more about his medical condition.

Steele's contract is another problem. Why they chose to extend him for the money they did after he had 1 decent year is yet another Jerry Jones mystery. But he showed improvement towards the end of last year so maybe he is worth keeping. They can restructure his contract to save about $9 million in 2025 and only add about $3 million to his 2026 CAP number. That means they can still cut him or trade him after 2025 and get a CAP save should they find a replacement. Right now they do not have a replacement. Of course they could move Guyton to RT, but how do we know he will get it done there. That is pure conjecture at this point. And that leaves a gaping hole at LT. They can use a late round pick on a OG or OT hoping it works out like Steele did, but IMO DL is the higher priority. If the Cowboys are going to truly turn into a run first offense, then a guy like Steele, who is better in run blocking than pass blocking, would be good to have around. This would be a no brainer if that idiot in charge did not make him the 12th highest paid RT in the league.

I have said multiple times, they are not going to turn this thing around in one year. It will take at least 2 and maybe 3. That means make a plan on how to get it done. What do they need and where will they get it? What they do not get in 2025, because opportunity does not present itself, or they don't have the CAP room, they can put off to 2026.
Good stuff.

Slight disagreement in that I think Diggs is done, but that's opinion at this point.
 

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Wasn't trying to drag him into anything. I agree with him on items like Diggs. I just feel like we won't be competitive with Dak.

Depends on how you define "competitive", of course. If we stay fairly healthy and actually sign some decent FAs, we could be competitive to make the playoffs this year.
Everyone feels that way. However, dragging Dak into every discussion derails that discussion. It's nice to have some good talks w/o him in it, wouldn't you say?
 

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:hammer: Especially Commanders free agency.......they have over $100M. Quinn has them eating out of his hand. Look for him to be aggressive coz a Super Bowl buys him 2-3 extra years extension. I'm expecting them to add top RB ( draft ), WR ( Higgins) and/or Edge ( Crosby). You are right.......we are battling the Giants for the basement
The Commanders adding Tee Higgins is a major fear of mine. They have the money, a good GM, a QB1 that is really good...so they should definitely make it happen.

They need to beat the Eagles in the division and the conference. Philly has two dynamic WRs, a beast at RB1, and arguably the best OL in the league. To catch them Washington will need to fight fire with fire. Getting Higgins and drafting a RB makes them dangerous. They will also look to get a dynamic EDGE rusher after likely signing DLaw in free agency as well. Look for them to sign one of the top Guards in FA, too.
 

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Good stuff. Couple of points:

1. I agree on the RBs in this draft. I really don't see a game changer at the position.
2. OL and running game. Agree completely. Then, if Dak doesn't work out, you're ready for the next guy.
3. Diggs. Me and football buds have been saying the same thing. He appears to be done. He was not good last year.
4. Question: Why do you think Guyton is better at ORT? Yes, he played ORT in college, but he was actually playing OLT as their QB was left handed. He appears to have the skillset to play OLT. I mean, we knew he was raw coming in, should not have been forced to start in 24. Yes, we took yet another project early in the draft!!!!
Good points all Kev.

One truth I’ve landed on in pro football is this: Unless you have Patrick Mahomes, no QB can rescue a bad OL. And if your defense is soft against the run, you aren’t a serious contender. Our FO is still stuck on finding “triplets” not understanding skill people are way easier to find than elite trenches players.

The Guyton point you made is a good one. I don’t know if he’s a better RT but he sure looked lost at LT.
 

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The roster Brian Schottenheimer has inherited as of this moment is not going to strike fear in any opponents eyes. There are obviously a few talented players here but if we plan on getting to at least that elusive conference championship, here‘s a mini-vision to get that done. Holes are abundant but they can be addressed fairly quickly. I think it will realistically take two years to develop.

Heres the big picture plan and it starts in the trenches where all great teams are built. Quite simply, the Cowboys need to get waaaaaay more physical. The two teams playing the SB this year (and most years) have a dominant DT (chiefs have Chris Jones, egirls have Jalen Carter) Time for us to recognize this and take action.
  • Here’s a truth long forgotten in Dallas: The fastest way to build a great roster is to start with the trenches. A dominant OL/DL is a foundation! Focus on developing a monster of an OL and DL. We need at least 2 new starting OL and at least 2 beast DL run stoppers/pocket collapsers. This year’s draft is deep in DTs who could immediately have an impact.
  • Don’t take the bait in drafting a RB at 12. Don’t do it. This is a deep draft for RBs and we can get a really good one on Day 2. Drafting a RB in round one is a waste because unless you find a generational talent, they will be washed in 5-6 years. Hello Zeke.
  • Add at least two upgrades a year with FAs. I don’t care what a talking Jones guy tells us that we are a “draft and develop” team only, without at least 2-3 mid-level FAs a year added to your roster, you cannot be a serious contender. The next two years we should look at adding help at LB, WR, and perhaps OL if the draft doesn’t give us immediate impact.
  • Since are stuck with Dak for at least 3 years, build a monster OL and running game. The top 6 rushing teams in this league all made the playoffs in 2024 and it‘s a trend. A strong running game is exactly what Dak needs. A great running game opens play action back up, something we haven’t been able to use effectively in a while.
  • Consider two key June 1 cuts that can save future cap space. Many won’t like this but I would release Trevon Diggs as a June 1 cut and Terance Steele in 2026 as a June 1 cut. Diggs IMO will never be the same with his knee and he costs way too much to be just above average. Deron Bland is better anyway. Steele is already in decline and we could possibly move Tyler Guyton to RT at some point which is a more comfortable position for his skills. Tough decisions have to made and this FO isn’t ruthless enough with its roster.
Amazingly, the fundamentals of football still matter, especially if you don’t have an elite QB, which very few teams do. (Jalen Hurts is nothing special but he’s surrounded by a great OL and running game) The teams that can block and tackle the best are always going to be competitive. So let’s build a big, physical monster of a team the next two years!
One word...decisiveness.
This is exactly what a new, professional GM would do if they came in.
Of course, we know what the obstacle to that .....
 

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Good points all Kev.

One truth I’ve landed on in pro football is this: Unless you have Patrick Mahomes, no QB can rescue a bad OL. And if your defense is soft against the run, you aren’t a serious contender. Our FO is still stuck on finding “triplets” not understanding skill people are way easier to find than elite trenches players.

The Guyton point you made is a good one. I don’t know if he’s a better RT but he sure looked lost at LT.
I believe Guyton was simply raw and not ready to start. He should not have been forced to start, but that's normal w/ Jerry-built teams.

There was both good and bad w/ Guyton. I don't believe the bad was anything that couldn't be fixed. He has the biggies, lateral agility, quick feet, and bend. What he lacks is strength and technique, both of which can be improved on. Unless he's just lazy, and I've heard nothing of the sort, then you'll see a huge progression from him. Don't let him being raw fool you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

From the scouts: "While Guyton's technique is a work in progress, his athleticisim is easy to see. He's a twitchy player w/ great agility and a first step that's hard to beat." And: "One of the best pound for pound athletes in this year's draft class." "Strides through space like a TE."

Guyton is going to end up being one of the best OLT's in the league. Needs technique and strength work. This is no Tyler Smith pick who was always going to end up at OG, this is a very toolsy player who was extremely raw coming in. Did you know that Guyton played H-Back when he was at TCU? Freaky athlete.
 

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We were literally dog walked on the ground in our big losses. I posted this in another thread. It's ugly. We need a big bad DT now. If you draft Jeanty, you must fix the o-line as well. The #1 reason the Eagles is in the Super Bowl is not Barkley. They actually scored more points during their last Super Bowl run. The Eagles are in the Super Bowl because their defense gave up 125 less points then they did in 2023.
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I believe Guyton was simply raw and not ready to start. He should not have been forced to start, but that's normal w/ Jerry-built teams.

There was both good and bad w/ Guyton. I don't believe the bad was anything that couldn't be fixed. He has the biggies, lateral agility, quick feet, and bend. What he lacks is strength and technique, both of which can be improved on. Unless he's just lazy, and I've heard nothing of the sort, then you'll see a huge progression from him. Don't let him being raw fool you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

From the scouts: "While Guyton's technique is a work in progress, his athleticisim is easy to see. He's a twitchy player w/ great agility and a first step that hard to beat." And: "One of the best pound for pound athletes in this year's draft class." "Strides through space like a TE."

Guyton is going to end up being one of the best OLT's in the league. Needs technique and strength work. This is no Tyler Smith pick who was always going to end up at OG, this is a very toolsy player who was extremely raw coming in. Did you know that Guyton played H-Back when he was at TCU? Freaky athlete.
I did remember Guyton at TCU as an H-Back and also a TE if memory serves me. He never did anything at those positions but you’re right he was athletic enough for them.

I’m hopeful Guyton can develop. Last year was such a ridiculous throw away by our GM. Just a tossed aside season.
 

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I've never understood why this FO has had so much sucess with the offensive line yet has failed building the interior defensive line.

Part of it has been the 30 year drought of taking a DT in the 1st round and the other part is the refusal to aquire a blue chip DT via free agency and the last part is whiffing on the ones they have drafted.

Those alleged top 10 defenses under Quinn were fools gold as they ran up stats with the easiest schedules in the NFL for years but we're exposed badly by the better teams.

Having said that, don't be surprised when Jerry takes his RB with our first pick as you warned against
Ineptitude. Only way it can be explained, IMO.
 

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I did remember Guyton at TCU as an H-Back and also a TE if memory serves me. He never did anything at those positions but you’re right he was athletic enough for them.

I’m hopeful Guyton can develop. Last year was such a ridiculous throw away by our GM. Just a tossed aside season.
And we had a chance to see what Trance could do and didn't take it. Just more ineptitude by our GM.
 

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We were literally dog walked on the ground in our big losses. I posted this in another thread. It's ugly. We need a big bad DT now. If you draft Jeanty, you must fix the o-line as well. The #1 reason the Eagles is in the Super Bowl is not Barkley. They actually scored more points during their last Super Bowl run. The Eagles are in the Super Bowl because their defense gave up 125 less points then they did in 2023.
How in the world do people not see/know this? Eagles are a Defense/Ball control team. Their D is incredible.
 

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The Cowboys went 7-10 in the clusterfest of what was last season. Just one good off season and they can be competitive again.

It's all up to the Jones clan. Which path are they going to take? Another 2024 approach to FA would likely give the Cowboys a top 4-5 pick.

And I'm not drafting a RB at 12 either. I'd prefer a trade down and stock up on day 2 picks.
How are you going to be competitive without a QB?
 
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