An Excuse Maker at the top means excuse makers throughout

[thechosen1n2]

man, that sure sounds like no accountability to me.

 

[Jon88]

These are the kind of coaches Jerry hires.

 

[CutMeMick]

These are the kind of coaches Jerry hires.

 

[MONT17]

sad part about Wade is he actually thinks a tip pass lost him the game... besides the fact that the CB positioning was complete wrong for that situation, the Gs had another down to convert!

 

[CaptainAmerica]

I agree completely with this thread.

Wade is what he is. He is not changing.

The question is who is next?

I don't see how Jerry promotes Garrett if this thing goes down in flames, although you know that's what he wants to do.

The fact is taking the job as OC when everyone knows he is the owner's pet might turn out to be the worst decision of Garrett's career.

 

[rcaldw]

I agree completely with this thread.

Wade is what he is. He is not changing.

The question is who is next?

I don't see how Jerry promotes Garrett if this thing goes down in flames, although you know that's what he wants to do.

The fact is taking the job as OC when everyone knows he is the owner's pet might turn out to be the worst decision of Garrett's career.

I agree with you completely and said this in another thread. In my opinion Jerry and Jason both made Garrett as head coach an almost impossible thing to accomplish.

If Garrett was so successful that he made lame Wade look good, then Wade gets the credit.

If Garrett is dragged down by lame Wade, then Garrett looks like a loser. (Assuming that Garrett is really a good coach)

Garrett was in a no win situation from the beginning. His success was Wade's success (in Dallas, not saying it couldn't advance Garrett somewhere else), but Wade's failure wouldn't just be Wade's failure, it was going to be Garrett's too.

 

[Doomsday101]

I agree with you completely and said this in another thread. In my opinion Jerry and Jason both made Garrett as head coach an almost impossible thing to accomplish.

If Garrett was so successful that he made lame Wade look good, then Wade gets the credit.

If Garrett is dragged down by lame Wade, then Garrett looks like a loser. (Assuming that Garrett is really a good coach)

Garrett was in a no win situation from the beginning. His success was Wade's success (in Dallas, not saying it couldn't advance Garrett somewhere else), but Wade's failure wouldn't just be Wade's failure, it was going to be Garrett's too.

Sounds more like Wade is in the no win situation. If the team does well he gets no credit and if they fail it is on Wade.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

I agree with you completely and said this in another thread. In my opinion Jerry and Jason both made Garrett as head coach an almost impossible thing to accomplish.

If Garrett was so successful that he made lame Wade look good, then Wade gets the credit.

If Garrett is dragged down by lame Wade, then Garrett looks like a loser. (Assuming that Garrett is really a good coach)

Garrett was in a no win situation from the beginning. His success was Wade's success (in Dallas, not saying it couldn't advance Garrett somewhere else), but Wade's failure wouldn't just be Wade's failure, it was going to be Garrett's too.

Yes, you are right.

In hindsight if Jerry was so convinced that Garrett was going to be the next great HC he should have gone ahead and hired him. You just knew in your gut when Jerry hired Garrett and then hired Wade as HC that it was a recipe for failure.

As John Madden told Al Davis when he hired him at the young age of 32, "if I'm going to be a good HC, I'll be one now".

 

[wileedog]

In hindsight if Jerry was so convinced that Garrett was going to be the next great HC he should have gone ahead and hired him. You just knew in your gut when Jerry hired Garrett and then hired Wade as HC that it was a recipe for failure.

I couldn't agree with this more. I think Wade was a knee jerk reaction to the defense coming completely unraveled at the end of 2006. You can't tell me if that unit finished strongly instead of getting steamrolled by the Lions and Saints that Wade would have been on the short list for this team.

Of course they then went on to unravel the last two seasons as well....

 

[windward]

If we continue to score in the range of 24-35 ppg and the defense is still playing as poor as it has, then why not give Garrett the reigns as HC?

I don't see the point of Wade being here if the defens is gonna suck balls anyway.

 

[tyke1doe]

I listened to the Wade Phillips press conference tonight, the replay, and the guy just thinks in terms of excuses. It really bothers me. If you have an excuse maker at the top then your team learns to do the same.

Just one example: A reporter asks (and I'm paraphrasing) does it surprise you that the defense has had two different weaknesses in two different games? (i.e., the passing defense one game and the running defense the next). Wade's answer? "Or two different strengths, depending upon how you look at it."

What? I obviously understand what he is trying to say, but if your overall defense is bad then it is ridiculous to describe it in those terms. Why not say, hey the thing has been broken the first two weeks and we have to fix it?

He talked about the bounce off the foot, he talked about the batted ball that ended up being caught.

Those two things are realities, but lets face it, the bounce off the foot doesn't happen if Romo doesn't throw it WAY behind him, and the ball off the tip doesn't get caught if the receiver hasn't beaten the DB on the slant.

In my opinion he thinks in these terms a whole lot more than I think is good for a head coach. Like trying to claim a playoff win because we had a first round bye.

I contrast this with a guy like Singletary who is no nonsense and literally infuses his team with his personality.

I just believe it is time for a change. Sooner rather than later.

I'm on board, brother.

 

[tyke1doe]

I was listening to Tom Orsborn on a local radio station yesterday, and he along with the other bear writers know Wade is the problem. They tried to bait him into showing his new, tougher image by trying to get him to call out a player. They brought Flozell up and his stupid penalties, and all Wade would say is that they are working with him on his penalties.

He had the perfect opportunity to call out one of the veterans and make a statement, but refused. He said that all the tough talk by Wade was all lip service and he has changed nothing. If this team is going anywhere is will have to do it inspite of the HC, which is not likely. There are no consequences to shoddy play and preperation.

He also said that there were some players who admitted they weren't focused and well prepared for the game on Sunday.

I agree with you about Wade Phillips in general, but do you really expect a coach to call out his player in the media, especially if he hasn't talked to him first?

 

[rcaldw]

Sounds more like Wade is in the no win situation. If the team does well he gets no credit and if they fail it is on Wade.

I was responding to the idea that Garrett made a bad career decision. Looking at it from the standpoint of advancing Garrett, IN DALLAS, Garrett started off in a no win situation.