An Excuse Maker at the top means excuse makers throughout

[rcaldw]

I listened to the Wade Phillips press conference tonight, the replay, and the guy just thinks in terms of excuses. It really bothers me. If you have an excuse maker at the top then your team learns to do the same.

Just one example: A reporter asks (and I'm paraphrasing) does it surprise you that the defense has had two different weaknesses in two different games? (i.e., the passing defense one game and the running defense the next). Wade's answer? "Or two different strengths, depending upon how you look at it."

What? I obviously understand what he is trying to say, but if your overall defense is bad then it is ridiculous to describe it in those terms. Why not say, hey the thing has been broken the first two weeks and we have to fix it?

He talked about the bounce off the foot, he talked about the batted ball that ended up being caught.

Those two things are realities, but lets face it, the bounce off the foot doesn't happen if Romo doesn't throw it WAY behind him, and the ball off the tip doesn't get caught if the receiver hasn't beaten the DB on the slant.

In my opinion he thinks in these terms a whole lot more than I think is good for a head coach. Like trying to claim a playoff win because we had a first round bye.

I contrast this with a guy like Singletary who is no nonsense and literally infuses his team with his personality.

I just believe it is time for a change. Sooner rather than later.

 

[NextGenBoys]

Which is why I'm not a fan of Wade Phillips as a head coach. You make a great point.

It's the thing about me that drives me nuts the most. It's almost as if he fails to recognize that there is a problem.

"Everything is fine, we're 13-3!"

 

[stilltheguru]

You know what, forget it. I want him gone before the season is even over with. Put sorry Jason Garrett in as coach. Anything is better than Wade Phillips. Send him to wherever Bum is. This season will not end in a Super Bowl, period.

 

[RainMan]

I think the no-nonsense, hard-butt approach employed by the likes of Singletary, Sparano and -- potentially -- Rex Ryan provides a dangerous line to walk. You really have to know when to pull back to offer long-term effectiveness.

But there's no doubt Wade is simply not a good leader of men. His press conferences are a joke, even if it is just the damn media he's talking to. You'd like to think he just offers that public persona and is different behind closed doors, but I dunno. His excuse making -- at least publicly -- just seems to be who he is.

 

[Darkhound]

we need all this LOOOSERS out of our team.

What kind of a "new" history are we making?

 

[rcaldw]

I think the no-nonsense, hard-butt approach employed by the likes of Singletary, Sparano and -- potentially -- Rex Ryan provides a dangerous line to walk. You really have to know when to pull back to offer long-term effectiveness.

But there's no doubt Wade is simply not a good leader of men. His press conferences are a joke, even if it is just the damn media he's talking to. You'd like to think he just offers that public persona and is different behind closed doors, but I dunno. His excuse making -- at least publicly -- just seems to be who he is.

I agree with you rainman, but here is where I think the difference might be. I don't think Singletary is JUST a hard-butt guy. I think he is a mixture of understanding his players even while he pushes his players. I think they know that which is why they LOVE the guy. I also think that he isn't nearly as concerned about perceptions as he is results, and when he has a gut instinct about something he does it. (Like the defensive timeout in game 1)

I think Jerry missed on that guy. But back to OUR guy, I think he is a figure head, I think the players instinctively know it, and he has no ability to put fire into our team. I think his public persona and his private personality are the same.

 

[DallasDomination]

I'm starting to really hate that fat loser of a coach we have....get a real coach in here please!. let me go throw up now.:bang2: :bang2: :bang2:

 

[Beast_from_East]

Thats it Wade, take your 30th ranked defense and get the hell out of dodge.

Even with Romo throwing every other pass to the wrong color uniform, we had the lead with 3 min left and needed just 1 freaking stop. Of course your defense folded (again).

You now have the distinction of being the HC to lose the last game at Texas Stadium and the first game at JerryWorld. Congrats fat boy, you have done a hell of a job with this team.

Just put Garrett in, at least his offense scores 30+ every game. Seriously, how much worse could Garrett be than fat boy Wade???

 

[Bleu Star]

I contrast this with a guy like Singletary who is no nonsense and literally infuses his team with his personality.

I just believe it is time for a change. Sooner rather than later.

I never wanted the loveable loser. I wanted Singletary and Jerry forced me to swallow the horse pill. That horse pill is still lodged in my throat and it hurts like hell.

 

[Sarge]

Wade is a DC, not an HC - clearly. I'm not certain he's that great of a DC either. There is a HUGE defference between the two. BTW, I am not taking this position because of the Giants game, I've said this from Day 1.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Wade is a DC, not an HC - clearly. I'm not certain he's that great of a DC either. There is a HUGE defference between the two. BTW, I am not taking this position because of the Giants game, I've said this from Day 1.

But if Wade is a DC, then why the hell are we ranked 30th in the league in defense and have 0 turnovers and 0 sacks for the season???

Apparently stay puff cant even coach defense anymore. So why is he still here???

 

[Sarge]

But if Wade is a DC, then why the hell are we ranked 30th in the league in defense and have 0 turnovers and 0 sacks for the season???

Apparently stay puff cant even coach defense anymore. So why is he still here???

AS I said...."I'm not certain he's that great of a DC either"

 

[rcaldw]

AS I said...."I'm not certain he's that great of a DC either"

I agree with you Sarge. One more Jerry figurehead that probably won't work out.

 

[Mr Cowboy]

I was listening to Tom Orsborn on a local radio station yesterday, and he along with the other bear writers know Wade is the problem. They tried to bait him into showing his new, tougher image by trying to get him to call out a player. They brought Flozell up and his stupid penalties, and all Wade would say is that they are working with him on his penalties.

He had the perfect opportunity to call out one of the veterans and make a statement, but refused. He said that all the tough talk by Wade was all lip service and he has changed nothing. If this team is going anywhere is will have to do it inspite of the HC, which is not likely. There are no consequences to shoddy play and preperation.

He also said that there were some players who admitted they weren't focused and well prepared for the game on Sunday.

 

[theebs]

But if Wade is a DC, then why the hell are we ranked 30th in the league in defense and have 0 turnovers and 0 sacks for the season???

Apparently stay puff cant even coach defense anymore. So why is he still here???

Im not a fan of wade or pretty much anybody on the defensive staff.

however, I think the talent level has dipped on them a bit since last year. We have no replacement for burnett, spencer doesnt look to be a real threat to me yet and the secondary has completely fallen apart.

Its like the end of 06 is happening again at the beginning of 09.

No one knows why.
No one knows who is to blame.
No one seemingly knows how to fix it.

the only thing we know is that a number of the same guys are lining up.

We also know that teams had the whole offseason to figure out how we were scheming to get all those sacks.

Wade has always preached that you dont make players fit your scheme you fit your scheme to your players. Right now would be a good time to figure that out.

 

[kramskoi]

I listened to the Wade Phillips press conference tonight, the replay, and the guy just thinks in terms of excuses. It really bothers me. If you have an excuse maker at the top then your team learns to do the same.

Just one example: A reporter asks (and I'm paraphrasing) does it surprise you that the defense has had two different weaknesses in two different games? (i.e., the passing defense one game and the running defense the next). Wade's answer? "Or two different strengths, depending upon how you look at it."

What? I obviously understand what he is trying to say, but if your overall defense is bad then it is ridiculous to describe it in those terms. Why not say, hey the thing has been broken the first two weeks and we have to fix it?

He talked about the bounce off the foot, he talked about the batted ball that ended up being caught.

Those two things are realities, but lets face it, the bounce off the foot doesn't happen if Romo doesn't throw it WAY behind him, and the ball off the tip doesn't get caught if the receiver hasn't beaten the DB on the slant.

In my opinion he thinks in these terms a whole lot more than I think is good for a head coach. Like trying to claim a playoff win because we had a first round bye.

I contrast this with a guy like Singletary who is no nonsense and literally infuses his team with his personality.

I just believe it is time for a change. Sooner rather than later.

...testify my friend...testify...show me an excuse maker and i'll show you a loser everytime...Phillips infuses the Cowboys with his personality also...and it shows big time...but...he still has three months to figure it out...

 

[CutMeMick]

I was listening to Tom Orsborn on a local radio station yesterday, and he along with the other bear writers know Wade is the problem. They tried to bait him into showing his new, tougher image by trying to get him to call out a player. They brought Flozell up and his stupid penalties, and all Wade would say is that they are working with him on his penalties.

He had the perfect opportunity to call out one of the veterans and make a statement, but refused. He said that all the tough talk by Wade was all lip service and he has changed nothing. If this team is going anywhere is will have to do it inspite of the HC, which is not likely. There are no consequences to shoddy play and preperation.

He also said that there were some players who admitted they weren't focused and well prepared for the game on Sunday.

So, let me get this straight.....105,000k screaming fans on the opening night of the JonesMahal, prime time TV- the ONLY game in town, & some players admitted they weren't "focused and well prepared for the game"???

Really??

My old man always said things work alot better if you have to EASE UP, rather then CLAMP DOWN.

Wade can't suddenly turn into a disciplinarian, whereas as Tom Coughlan has proven, you CAN morph into a "touchy, feely" Wade-like HC.

 

[Rampage]

I was listening to Tom Orsborn on a local radio station yesterday, and he along with the other bear writers know Wade is the problem. They tried to bait him into showing his new, tougher image by trying to get him to call out a player. They brought Flozell up and his stupid penalties, and all Wade would say is that they are working with him on his penalties.

He had the perfect opportunity to call out one of the veterans and make a statement, but refused. He said that all the tough talk by Wade was all lip service and he has changed nothing. If this team is going anywhere is will have to do it inspite of the HC, which is not likely. There are no consequences to shoddy play and preperation.

He also said that there were some players who admitted they weren't focused and well prepared for the game on Sunday.

and people think we're a superbowl contender? :laugh2:

 

[RS12]

I agree with you rainman, but here is where I think the difference might be. I don't think Singletary is JUST a hard-butt guy. I think he is a mixture of understanding his players even while he pushes his players. I think they know that which is why they LOVE the guy. I also think that he isn't nearly as concerned about perceptions as he is results, and when he has a gut instinct about something he does it. (Like the defensive timeout in game 1)

I think Jerry missed on that guy. But back to OUR guy, I think he is a figure head, I think the players instinctively know it, and he has no ability to put fire into our team. I think his public persona and his private personality are the same.

If I were playing I'd love to play for Singletary. You can just tell this about him, he gets it. They have lousy ownership in SF, maybe some day he will come home to Texas.

 

[wileedog]

Wade can't suddenly turn into a disciplinarian, whereas as Tom Coughlan has proven, you CAN morph into a "touchy, feely" Wade-like HC.

I don't think Coughlin morphed into anything of the sort. He just finally stopped to listen to his players for once and realized that some of the things he was doing were way beyond necessary.

And I don't think a Parcells or Jimmy could ever morph into anything of the sort either.

The difference is all of those guys command respect. Wade's a guy who is great to have a beer with, but at the end of the day you know there is zero consequence for failure with him, and really he's not going to be here next year anyway so why should I as a player care?