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aria

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I would like them to eliminate the time
Change and stay with the daylight savings all year long.

nothing sets that seasonal depression in like turning the clocks back and it being dark by 5pm at night.

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I’m the complete opposite, especially in TX. I HATE getting in bed at 8:30-9 and still hearing lawnmowers, chainsaws, etc. I’m ready to shut it down at 5, bring on the darkness.

I even make mental hurdles to get through summer and long days. First is Memorial Day, then the miserable summer solstice, shortly after is July 4th, then Labor Day and finally football is here. The winter solstice is bittersweet, it’s wonderfully short but I know the days will start getting longer the next day.

The atrocious DFW heat and humidity have A LOT to do with my hatred for the long days. If I lived in a more mild climate I would still prefer shorter daylight hours but wouldn’t despise the longer days as much.
 

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Well. One of those states isn't in country. But still......I get you.
 

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DST Actually uses MORE energy because it takes more A/C in summer heat w the sun up longer during the hottest time of day. It's totally stoopid.
NEED TO STAY ON NORMAL TIME YEAR ROUND!
Ummm... what??? Sorry but that analogy doesn't make any sense at all. It doesn't matter because the day is X amount of hours long however you look at it. It doesn't care 1 iota about whether it's DST or Standard time.

Keep the daylight at the end of the day. Most don't benefit from the sun coming up at 5 a.m. but do benefit from the extra hour of daylight in the evening.
 

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Ummm... what??? Sorry but that analogy doesn't make any sense at all. It doesn't matter because the day is X amount of hours long however you look at it. It doesn't care 1 iota about whether it's DST or Standard time.

Keep the daylight at the end of the day. Most don't benefit from the sun coming up at 5 a.m. but do benefit from the extra hour of daylight in the evening.
Coughs LOL I suppose you think it's the same temp in the morning as it is in the evening? WRONG. My fact stands. The hottest part of the day is at the end. Therfore, more energy is used. If you want more daylight later, fine, but don't try to refute the extra energy wasted. Totally different issue.
 

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Ummm... what??? Sorry but that analogy doesn't make any sense at all. It doesn't matter because the day is X amount of hours long however you look at it. It doesn't care 1 iota about whether it's DST or Standard time.

Keep the daylight at the end of the day. Most don't benefit from the sun coming up at 5 a.m. but do benefit from the extra hour of daylight in the evening.

I would be fine with it if they simply went on DST and stayed on it. Florida was considering doing that at one point. Not sure what happened. In Hawaii it doesn't matter. Since they're so close to the equator, the time of sunset doesn't differ all that much from winter to summer.
 

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Coughs LOL I suppose you think it's the same temp in the morning as it is in the evening? WRONG. My fact stands. The hottest part of the day is at the end. Therfore, more energy is used. If you want more daylight later, fine, but don't try to refute the extra energy wasted. Totally different issue.
While there may be some truth to this, the exact opposite happens, in the northern climate. Lights come on earlier. Thermostats get turned up earlier.

I don't believe energy use is a factor, when you look at the whole picture, nor should it be.
 

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While there may be some truth to this, the exact opposite happens, in the northern climate. Lights come on earlier. Thermostats get turned up earlier.

I don't believe energy use is a factor, when you look at the whole picture, nor should it be.

Some truth? It's the entire reason it was begun. Look at any of the hundreds of websites on it.

Many think that daylight saving time was conceived to give farmers an extra hour of sunlight to till their fields, but this is a common misconception. In fact, farmers have long been opposed to springing forward and falling back, since it throws off their usual harvesting schedule.

The real reasons for daylight saving are based around energy conservation and a desire to match daylight hours to the times when most people are awake. The idea dates back to 1895
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Daylight saving time, suggested by President Roosevelt, was imposed to conserve fuel, and could be traced back to World War I,

...ad infinitum....

I'm opposed to it and tired of it and I personally do not know anyone who likes it at all in any climate. :p:rolleyes:
 
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Some truth? It's the entire reason it was begun. Look at any of the hundreds of websites on it.

Many think that daylight saving time was conceived to give farmers an extra hour of sunlight to till their fields, but this is a common misconception. In fact, farmers have long been opposed to springing forward and falling back, since it throws off their usual harvesting schedule.

The real reasons for daylight saving are based around energy conservation and a desire to match daylight hours to the times when most people are awake. The idea dates back to 1895
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Daylight saving time, suggested by President Roosevelt, was imposed to conserve fuel, and could be traced back to World War I,

...ad infinitum....

I'm opposed to it and tired of it and I personally do not know anyone who likes it at all in any climate. :p:rolleyes:


Right. But what he is saying is, if you get rid of daylight savings. You may save energy in warm states through AC. But northern states will use more energy to hear their homes in winter, if you do away with DST.


So either way, on the whole, you won’t be saving much energy.
 

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Coughs LOL I suppose you think it's the same temp in the morning as it is in the evening? WRONG. My fact stands. The hottest part of the day is at the end. Therfore, more energy is used. If you want more daylight later, fine, but don't try to refute the extra energy wasted. Totally different issue.
The hottest part of the day is around 4 to 5 pm. The sun sets later than that even on standard time. So it won't make much difference.
 

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The hottest part of the day is around 4 to 5 pm. The sun sets later than that even on standard time. So it won't make much difference.

I agree with you. Whenever it's hot is when you'll run the air conditioner. It really doesn't make any difference what time the clock is showing. If a person's house is hot, they're going to use the electricity needed to cool it down. They won't care if the clock says "3," "4," "5", or whatever.
 

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Some truth? It's the entire reason it was begun. Look at any of the hundreds of websites on it.

Many think that daylight saving time was conceived to give farmers an extra hour of sunlight to till their fields, but this is a common misconception. In fact, farmers have long been opposed to springing forward and falling back, since it throws off their usual harvesting schedule.

The real reasons for daylight saving are based around energy conservation and a desire to match daylight hours to the times when most people are awake. The idea dates back to 1895
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Daylight saving time, suggested by President Roosevelt, was imposed to conserve fuel, and could be traced back to World War I,

...ad infinitum....

I'm opposed to it and tired of it and I personally do not know anyone who likes it at all in any climate. :p:rolleyes:
I'm a little confused here. You're using increased energy consumption as a reason to not spring forward to DST but then point out that the reason for DST in the first place, was to conserve energy.

Latitude makes a significant difference. too. The earliest sunset in Dallas is 5:20 pm. Dallas gets a little better than 10 hours of sunlight, at that time. The earliest sunset in my neck of the woods is 4:12 pm and we get a little under 9 hours of sunlight.

I agree, end the time change. Just give me my nine hours of sunlight when I can use it.:D
 
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I would be fine with it if they simply went on DST and stayed on it. Florida was considering doing that at one point. Not sure what happened. In Hawaii it doesn't matter. Since they're so close to the equator, the time of sunset doesn't differ all that much from winter to summer.
Florida voted and passed a bill to accept dst full time. But us congress has to approve it. They won't even look at the bill.. it has been several years.
 

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Florida voted and passed a bill to accept dst full time. But us congress has to approve it. They won't even look at the bill.. it has been several years.

So that's what happened. You would think Florida would not need approval from the Federal Government, as it's a local matter, but what do I know?
 
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