Andrew Hawkins... 4th and Long Thread *Spoilers*

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WoodysGirl;2803640 said:
Donte Gamble
Age: 30
Ht: 5-8
Wt: 165
College: San Diego State
40-yard dash time: 4.32
Note: Played semi-pro in Patti LaBelle Football League
I'm sorry... there's a "Patti Labelle Football League"?
AND it's considered semi-pro?

lol

Another thing... I thought the whole reason Moses Washington was there was because he was a "track guy". Obviously he isn't big and doesn't seem to have any football chops. But this article says he has a "4.62" 40 time. ?? That's the worst of all of them. And it's a horrible time, period. I've been excusing his presence there the whole time as, "well, he's a speedster so he just needs coaching..." But if that time is correct, he shoulda been cut before he even got the opportunity. I don't know why he's still there anyway. He shoulda been gone before Swan because he hasn't shown ANY ability. Swan showed more promise on the bike than MoWash on the field.
 

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Washington should have been gone before Swan and Jackson. I still can't believe Jackson went home so early.
 

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zrinkill;2803750 said:
Not at all .... the guy signed with a Professional Football team 7 months ago (average salary is between 75,000-120,000) and has not reported over a reality show.
That gives him a chance to be a dallas cowboy. I'm sure the Montreal team understands why he's not showing up...
 

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Holley was my early favorite, considering his size and what look's to be fairly polished route running, but Hawkins has got some serious speed. I'd say he earned my favorite spot last night with how bad he smoked the corners.
 

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JFlgn;2804045 said:
Washington should have been gone before Swan and Jackson. I still can't believe Jackson went home so early.
actually Jackson had a bad attitude and was full of excuses every time he made a mistake.
I'm hoping they recognized that in him like I did and that that was a big reason why they cut him loose.
 

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Agreed on Jackson, but the dude could still play better than Washington or Swan.

With this kind of competition, you've got to give that type of size and pedigree a chance.

Sometimes the better players aren't necessarily the better ppl. I'm not saying the guy would have won, but if you put him on a field with most of those guys in a real game, he'd do better.
 

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So Moses Washington's friend that he called was Mark Clayton from the Baltimore Ravens. Both played on the OU national championship team.
 

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I think hawkins reminds me of a poor man's Darren Sproles. Kind of moves like him and takes off like he's shot out of a cannon.

He's short as hell but he looks pretty stout and seems to have a good head on his shoulders.
 

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hendog;2804309 said:
I think hawkins reminds me of a poor man's Darren Sproles. Kind of moves like him and takes off like he's shot out of a cannon.

He's short as hell but he looks pretty stout and seems to have a good head on his shoulders.

Hawkins is definitely well spoken
 

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How many episodes are left? Hawkins is already the clear cut winner, why draw it out further? Obviously for the $, but if the kid gets hurt, Dallas has to settle on a guy who is less than a JAG.
 

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BraveHeartFan;2803905 said:
So you knew, from the get go, that bates could play and had a shot to make the team? No offense Hos but I doubt that to be quite honest. The day Bates walked onto the field to try and make it as a walk on free agent you no doubt thought he was another scrub, ham and egger, or whatever.

Now, having seen the whole of his career, yeah you won't call him that and all that but I doubt you, or anyone else for that matter, honestly thought he had any shot the day he walked in to try and make the team.
In the pre-season that year the Cowboys played the Steelers in pre-season. During the game Madden started talking about conversations he had with Tom Landry and how Landry was gushing over Bates. He quoted Landry as saying Bates would hit anything that moved.

Within a short time of this Bates was bowled over by Franco Harris. Pre-season. Bates in the game at the same time as Franco Harris. Let that sink in.

I remember Madden saying, "Mr. Bates, welcome to the NFL."

On the very next play Bates hit Franco so hard that his shoes went flying. Madden said, "Mr. Harris, welcome back to the NFL."

Sorry to disappoint you, but my introduction to Bill Bates did not have me thinking he was a ham and egger. From the moment I saw the guy play with the passion he had I felt he was special.
 

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Heads up guys.

This video is available for download at Cowboys Media and the One Swarm client.
 

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Really felt bad for Swan. Even with the injury, he made some of the DBs look pretty bad. I liked the sharpness of his routes (didn't give anything away) and his effort, but it definitely would have been hard to continue keeping him around when you don't know how long the injury will linger.

It's too bad because it looked like he might have been one with the ability to at least compete for a roster spot, but injuries never gave him that chance.
 

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Hostile;2804504 said:
In the pre-season that year the Cowboys played the Steelers in pre-season. During the game Madden started talking about conversations he had with Tom Landry and how Landry was gushing over Bates. He quoted Landry as saying Bates would hit anything that moved.

Within a short time of this Bates was bowled over by Franco Harris. Pre-season. Bates in the game at the same time as Franco Harris. Let that sink in.

I remember Madden saying, "Mr. Bates, welcome to the NFL."

On the very next play Bates hit Franco so hard that his shoes went flying. Madden said, "Mr. Harris, welcome back to the NFL."

Sorry to disappoint you, but my introduction to Bill Bates did not have me thinking he was a ham and egger. From the moment I saw the guy play with the passion he had I felt he was special.

I saw him play at Tennessee and was surprised that he wasn't even drafted. I don't think Hawkins, by the way, is a "ham and egger".
 

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I think Hawkins is the best prospect as well. He's certainly the most versatile athlete on the show, having played RB, WR, CB and KR in high school and WR, RB, CB and Gunner in college. He's got NFL speed and at just 22, he can transition any of those previous skills to the next level with good coaching.

I wouldn't mind having him on our PS.
 

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Hostile;2804504 said:
In the pre-season that year the Cowboys played the Steelers in pre-season. During the game Madden started talking about conversations he had with Tom Landry and how Landry was gushing over Bates. He quoted Landry as saying Bates would hit anything that moved.

Within a short time of this Bates was bowled over by Franco Harris. Pre-season. Bates in the game at the same time as Franco Harris. Let that sink in.

I remember Madden saying, "Mr. Bates, welcome to the NFL."

On the very next play Bates hit Franco so hard that his shoes went flying. Madden said, "Mr. Harris, welcome back to the NFL."

Sorry to disappoint you, but my introduction to Bill Bates did not have me thinking he was a ham and egger. From the moment I saw the guy play with the passion he had I felt he was special.


Not to mention, this guy was known for cracking helmets... Imagine how hard you have to hit someone to crack a helmet...
 

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Silverstar;2804923 said:
I think Hawkins is the best prospect as well. He's certainly the most versatile athlete on the show, having played RB, WR, CB and KR in high school and WR, RB, CB and Gunner in college. He's got NFL speed and at just 22, he can transition any of those previous skills to the next level with good coaching.

I wouldn't mind having him on our PS.

Here's a thought. At his smallish size, why not try and transition him to RB?
 

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Yeagermeister;2805276 said:
He's too small to play rb in the NFL.

He's the right height, so the question is can he fill out? Does he have a frame to support that? With his speed he could be a good 3rd down back, if even as a backup. I'm just asking.
 
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