Andy Dalton is a quality QB

[basel90]

Now lets expand on that a little. Romo was in his 4th year with the Cowboys, not signed as a 1 year backup QB and Bledsoe was at the end of his career, past his prime. Now we have a QB, Prescott, just getting into his prime and a QB, Dalton, that was just fired in favor of a rookie QB, Burrow, who hasn't had a single snap in the NFL.. Now you may be able to fool 5 year olds with your Romo/Bledsoe tale, but if you want to continue your Prescott hating dream where Dalton replaces Prescott go ahead after all it's just a dream.
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What blossoming career is Dak having . ? In fact , it has been downhill since his rookie year . Dak was 1-6 against decent teams last year .( and still lost to the jets and bears ) . And before you blame it on the Defense , Dak failed to score 1 TD against the saints , patriots , eagles .. with all the supporting cast : top OL , RB, WRs . In 2018 Jerry had to bail him out with a 1st round receiver to help him out . Still failed .
. He is mediocre and inaccurate and the trail of excuses will end soon now that jason is not around to blame and a legit QB is ready to step in . There is a reason no team offered to trade for him at his price tag .

 

[Northern_Cowboy]

What blossoming career is Dak having . ? In fact , it has been downhill since his rookie year . Dak was 1-6 against decent teams last year .( and still lost to the jets and bears ) . And before you blame it on the Defense , Dak failed to score 1 TD against the saints , patriots , eagles .. with all the supporting cast : top OL , RB, WRs . In 2018 Jerry had to bail him out with a 1st round receiver to help him out . Still failed .
. He is mediocre and inaccurate and the trail of excuses will end soon now that jason is not around to blame and a legit QB is ready to step in . There is a reason no team offered to trade for him at his price tag .

before he answers you should give him a link to this thread because he will have alot of them

https://cowboyszone.com/threads/the-dak-prescott-excuse-thread.459250/

 

[gjkoeppen]

"And now that your dream is over we are in the real world now where real NFL coaches don't let QB's that make 1/10 of what the starter makes really actually get to compete for the starting job."

Is there something i am misunderstanding about this quote of yours? Was Jason Garrett not an NFL coach?, did Dak Prescott make even way less than 1/10 of what the starter was making? or does it not count because he never competed for the job it was just handed to him out of desperation at the time due to injuries to the starter and backup. Was he not competing for the job the entire time he had it as a rookie or was he just annointed by the hand of God which came down and touched him on his forehead. You really are something else

There are many many examples of backup QB's not making alot of money who took over and got to compete for jobs over the starters i just listed a very obvious one

I suggest you read football 101 about ten times to make sure you get the very basics of football. Prescott got the starting job because both Romo the starter and Moore the backup QB got injured in preseason and went on IR. Prescott wasn't able to or was even in the plans to compete for the starting job as a rookie and the #3 QB but because of injuries to the top 2 QB's Prescott was the next man up. Ya according to your insane logic Prescott was competing for the starting job he had with the QB that was on IR. That same QB that came off IR after the mandatory 8 weeks but wasn't ready yet to play. Then after week 11 he was physically ready to play but with not playing for 14 weeks the coaching staff believed there was a real possibility of Romo having some rust which it was reported that in practice there was rust and where is timing was off and his throws were somewhat erratic So since the Cowboys were on a 11 game winning streak the coaches decided to stick with the hot hand and not risk it on a rusty Romo. After the season endedjust before free agency was to start Romo and Jones had a meeting and to help Romo get a chance to play for another team Jones told him that the Cowboys were going to release him when free agency started. CBS got word of this and offer Romo the job he has now and after getting released by the Cowboys Romo received offer from 2 teams but instead of continuing to play football he decided to retire and go to the booth. Romo said after taking the job with CBS that he was physically able to play but since he has had several injuries, 1 serious that he doubted that he would remain healthy for an entire season and decided to retire. So your big thing of Prescott competing against a QB on IR who then retired after the season is hilarious to the enth degree. Now to answer your questions. Yes Garrett was an NFL coach. Yes Prescott made a fraction of what Romo did. NO Prescott was not competing for the starting job nor was he ever considered to get a chance to compete. Prescott was the next man up.
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[Northern_Cowboy]

I suggest you read football 101 about ten times to make sure you get the very basics of football. Prescott got the starting job because both Romo the starter and Moore the backup QB got injured in preseason and went on IR. Prescott wasn't able to or was even in the plans to compete for the starting job as a rookie and the #3 QB but because of injuries to the top 2 QB's Prescott was the next man up. Ya according to your insane logic Prescott was competing for the starting job he had with the QB that was on IR. That same QB that came off IR after the mandatory 8 weeks but wasn't ready yet to play. Then after week 11 he was physically ready to play but with not playing for 14 weeks the coaching staff believed there was a real possibility of Romo having some rust which it was reported that in practice there was rust and where is timing was off and his throws were somewhat erratic So since the Cowboys were on a 11 game winning streak the coaches decided to stick with the hot hand and not risk it on a rusty Romo. After the season endedjust before free agency was to start Romo and Jones had a meeting and to help Romo get a chance to play for another team Jones told him that the Cowboys were going to release him when free agency started. CBS got word of this and offer Romo the job he has now and after getting released by the Cowboys Romo received offer from 2 teams but instead of continuing to play football he decided to retire and go to the booth. Romo said after taking the job with CBS that he was physically able to play but since he has had several injuries, 1 serious that he doubted that he would remain healthy for an entire season and decided to retire. So your big thing of Prescott competing against a QB on IR who then retired after the season is hilarious to the enth degree. Now to answer your questions. Yes Garrett was an NFL coach. Yes Prescott made a fraction of what Romo did. NO Prescott was not competing for the starting job nor was he ever considered to get a chance to compete. Prescott was the next man up.
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Nice try lol, Here I'll quote your post again. Try to answer it this time and don't use revisionist history. Tony Romo was never on IR in 2016

"And now that your dream is over we are in the real world now where real NFL coaches don't let QB's that make 1/10 of what the starter makes really actually get to compete for the starting job. Those lowly paid QB's are just backup QB's. In fact the 3rd string QB gets more practice time than the backup QB because the 3rd string QB is usually the QB that plays the QB of the opposing teams formations to get the team ready to play their next opponent. I'm guessing you have that same dream quite often though.

.https://www.upi.com/Sports_News/201...s-QB-Tony-Romo-not-going-on-IR/1331473222820/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...o-on-injured-reserve-even-though-hes-injured/
https://cowboyswire.usatoday.com/20...und-cowboys-not-going-to-put-tony-romo-in-ir/


That enough links for you to confirm it? You make stuff up as you go along then try to explain it away by making more stuff up!

 

[gjkoeppen]

What blossoming career is Dak having . ? In fact , it has been downhill since his rookie year . Dak was 1-6 against decent teams last year .( and still lost to the jets and bears ) . And before you blame it on the Defense , Dak failed to score 1 TD against the saints , patriots , eagles .. with all the supporting cast : top OL , RB, WRs . In 2018 Jerry had to bail him out with a 1st round receiver to help him out . Still failed .
. He is mediocre and inaccurate and the trail of excuses will end soon now that jason is not around to blame and a legit QB is ready to step in . There is a reason no team offered to trade for him at his price tag .

Ya Prescott has slid so far down since 2016 and that is why going into free agency was rated as the #1 free agent. They always make players who get worse as the #1 rated player. You being a Prescott hater you don't want to hear that the defense, SIX subpar games by Elliott with rushing totals of 60 yards or less, one of only 35 yards on 18 carries, and a special teams that ranked between 27-31 the entire season was a big factor in losses for the cowboys. No you want to put the entire blame on Prescott. And your legit QB who was just fired in favor for a rookie QB with zero NFL snaps, a legit QB who in 5 attempts has ZERO wins in the playoffs who has 118 picks with 9 of them pick six and every legit QB signs for 3 mil and didn't have offers knocking down his door trying to sign him. Is it that QB you're claim is legit that you're talking about?
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[gjkoeppen]

Nice try lol, Here I'll quote your post again. Try to answer it this time and don't use revisionist history. Tony Romo was never on IR in 2016

"And now that your dream is over we are in the real world now where real NFL coaches don't let QB's that make 1/10 of what the starter makes really actually get to compete for the starting job. Those lowly paid QB's are just backup QB's. In fact the 3rd string QB gets more practice time than the backup QB because the 3rd string QB is usually the QB that plays the QB of the opposing teams formations to get the team ready to play their next opponent. I'm guessing you have that same dream quite often though.

.https://www.upi.com/Sports_News/201...s-QB-Tony-Romo-not-going-on-IR/1331473222820/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...o-on-injured-reserve-even-though-hes-injured/
https://cowboyswire.usatoday.com/20...und-cowboys-not-going-to-put-tony-romo-in-ir/


That enough links for you to confirm it? You make stuff up as you go along then try to explain it away by making more stuff up!

Here's what you've got. In the beginning there was the thought of not putting Romo on IR and your first link quoted Jones saying that but Jones also said that Romo was going to have further tests and was seen by TWO different specialists. Now you failed to use any links where those two specialists told Jones that Romo wouldn't be ready until at least week 9 or10. So after getting those results Jones then agreed that Romo would need to go on IR and that his hope for Romo to be ready in six weeks wasn't going to happen. As it turned out Romo wasn't physically ready to play until after week 11. BAD TRY.
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[Northern_Cowboy]

Here's what you've got. In the beginning there was the thought of not putting Romo on IR and your first link quoted Jones saying that but Jones also said that Romo was going to have further tests and was seen by TWO different specialists. Now you failed to use any links where those two specialists told Jones that Romo wouldn't be ready until at least week 9 or10. So after getting those results Jones then agreed that Romo would need to go on IR and that his hope for Romo to be ready in six weeks wasn't going to happen. As it turned out Romo wasn't physically ready to play until after week 11. BAD TRY.
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You said Romo was on IR he was not. Stop trying to avoid the things you say. He was ready to play after 7-8 weeks after the injury, team was hot so they stayed with Dak saying we want Romo to be fully healthy before he comes back. You really think if the team had started 1-4 or 1-5 that Romo wasn't coming back. Show me the link where specialists told Jones Romo wouldn't be ready till week 9 or 10

 

[gjkoeppen]

You said Romo was on IR he was not. Stop trying to avoid the things you say. He was ready to play after 7-8 weeks after the injury, team was hot so they stayed with Dak saying we want Romo to be fully healthy before he comes back. You really think if the team had started 1-4 or 1-5 that Romo wasn't coming back. Show me the link where specialists told Jones Romo wouldn't be ready till week 9 or 10

I don't know what cave you've been living in but Romo was on IR and that was the first year teams could recall a player from IR after week 8.
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[SteveTheCowboy]

YOu guys can argue all you want...BUT....dak stayed because of superstition. Oh...look...we';re winning now...don;t blow it !

I htink the team even said as much. Make me look it up.

As if Romo could not do what dak did? Or better?
Come on.

 

[Northern_Cowboy]

I don't know what cave you've been living in but Romo was on IR and that was the first year teams could recall a player from IR after week 8.
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I showed you three links that confirmed he wasn't going on IR yet you want to keep saying he was. You want another 5 sources that will confirm it for you? You have zero credibility stop posting

 

[basel90]

Ya Prescott has slid so far down since 2016 and that is why going into free agency was rated as the #1 free agent. They always make players who get worse as the #1 rated player. You being a Prescott hater you don't want to hear that the defense, SIX subpar games by Elliott with rushing totals of 60 yards or less, one of only 35 yards on 18 carries, and a special teams that ranked between 27-31 the entire season was a big factor in losses for the cowboys. No you want to put the entire blame on Prescott. ?
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The QB touches the the football on every snap and has the ability to audible and make plays . You have proven again that Dak is simply a bus driver , and if the running game stalls , he folds . No heroic comebacks , no game management ,no reading of defenses . Pretty much describes an entitled overrated QB , who thinks he is better than all QBs and wants 40 mil .. . Heck , even Brady was available at 22 mil .
The excuses have to end . Dak has 1 playoff win in 4 years behind the best OL, RB, and elite WRs .

 

[OmerV]

The QB touches the the football on every snap and has the ability to audible and make plays . You have proven again that Dak is simply a bus driver , and if the running game stalls , he folds . No heroic comebacks , no game management ,no reading of defenses . Pretty much describes an entitled overrated QB , who thinks he is better than all QBs and wants 40 mil .. . Heck , even Brady was available at 22 mil .
The excuses have to end . Dak has 1 playoff win in 4 years behind the best OL, RB, and elite WRs .

Dak, over his career, has actually been good coming from behind. Granted that wasn’t the case last year, but you are talking about his career, yet on that point acting as if last year is the only factor. Last year was a down year for the Cowboys, no doubt, but it doesn’t represent a career, and all thing aren’t on the QB anyway.

And let’s not act as if other teams are succeeding simply by having A QB carry them on their back without a strong supporting cast. That’s really not the case. Granted Dak isn’t Rodgers or Mahomes, or Brees or Brady in that regard, but how many are. Hell, that’s so rare that 3 of those 4 were drafted 15-20 years ago.

 

[chagus]

Im actually ok to roll with Dalton if Dak holds out. Dalton is from Texas, a cowboys fan and never had a team around him like this team. It would be interesting to see him rise up to the occasion and take his childhood dream team to the promised land. It would be a heck of a story.

 

[pansophy]

With our talent and a real scheme Dalton should be good enough to win. If Dak plays on the tag one would think the best QB will be on the field since the chances of Dak signing long term after playing on the tag are not good.

 

[gjkoeppen]

The QB touches the the football on every snap and has the ability to audible and make plays . You have proven again that Dak is simply a bus driver , and if the running game stalls , he folds . No heroic comebacks , no game management ,no reading of defenses . Pretty much describes an entitled overrated QB , who thinks he is better than all QBs and wants 40 mil .. . Heck , even Brady was available at 22 mil .
The excuses have to end . Dak has 1 playoff win in 4 years behind the best OL, RB, and elite WRs .

Typical Prescott hater twisting and turning everything so it fits their hatred. The COACHES give Prescott a scheme that was a run first scheme and the COACHES send in the plays and yes Prescott had audible out of plays. And your best OL and RB was really true other than 2016 why in a team decided by the COACHES to be a run first team has Elliott's production gone down every year since 2016 to last year Elliott having SIX subpar games of 60 yards or less, one with a whooping 35 yards on 18 carries. And then last season the Cowboys receiving corp led the league in drops. The haters just over look facts like Prescott led the league until week 14 and 15 for pass completion percentage for passes 20 plus yards and pass completion percentage of passes 40 plus yards or ended up with the second most passing yards in the league. But one of the haters biggest go to is that they just gobble up every speculated report by sportswriters and insiders of this 40 mil a year contract garbage that none of those speculators have a single direct quote from any of the 4 people actually involved in the negotiations saying anything about a 40 mil a year deal. Oh ya and going into this year's free agency Prescott was the NUMBER ONE rated free agent and we all know that they rate entitled overrated players to be rated #1. Oh and there's one more thing. Some of these Prescott haters are also coming up with all sorts of reason to get Prescott benched and Dalton in. These same Prescott haters that spout only 1 playoff win for Prescott yet their boy Dalton has ZERO in FIVE tries.
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[basel90]

Dak, over his career, has actually been good coming from behind. Granted that wasn’t the case last year, but you are talking about his career, yet on that point acting as if last year is the only factor. Last year was a down year for the Cowboys, no doubt, but it doesn’t represent a career, and all thing aren’t on the QB anyway.

And let’s not act as if other teams are succeeding simply by having A QB carry them on their back without a strong supporting cast. That’s really not the case. Granted Dak isn’t Rodgers or Mahomes, or Brees or Brady in that regard, but how many are. Hell, that’s so rare that 3 of those 4 were drafted 15-20 years ago.

Agree mostly , but Dak also had terrible games in 2018 ( remember the tennesse home debacle , or the zero points against the colts , or the rams game etc etc ) . The fundamental issue is Dak wants to be paid as a top elite player , while he has not accomplished much . The players you mentioned have super bowl rings and much more wins in the playoffs .

 

[gjkoeppen]

Agree mostly , but Dak also had terrible games in 2018 ( remember the tennesse home debacle , or the zero points against the colts , or the rams game etc etc ) . The fundamental issue is Dak wants to be paid as a top elite player , while he has not accomplished much . The players you mentioned have super bowl rings and much more wins in the playoffs .

The rams game in the playoffs was the fault of the defense and almost every football person agrees with that.
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[basel90]

Typical Prescott hater twisting and turning everything so it fits their hatred. The COACHES give Prescott a scheme that was a run first scheme and the COACHES send in the plays and yes Prescott had audible out of plays. And your best OL and RB was really true other than 2016 why in a team decided by the COACHES to be a run first team has Elliott's production gone down every year since 2016 to last year Elliott having SIX subpar games of 60 yards or less, one with a whooping 35 yards on 18 carries. And then last season the Cowboys receiving corp led the league in drops. The haters just over look facts like Prescott led the league until week 14 and 15 for pass completion percentage for passes 20 plus yards and pass completion percentage of passes 40 plus yards or ended up with the second most passing yards in the league. But one of the haters biggest go to is that they just gobble up every speculated report by sportswriters and insiders of this 40 mil a year contract garbage that none of those speculators have a single direct quote from any of the 4 people actually involved in the negotiations saying anything about a 40 mil a year deal. Oh ya and going into this year's free agency Prescott was the NUMBER ONE rated free agent and we all know that they rate entitled overrated players to be rated #1. Oh and there's one more thing. Some of these Prescott haters are also coming up with all sorts of reason to get Prescott benched and Dalton in. These same Prescott haters that spout only 1 playoff win for Prescott yet their boy Dalton has ZERO in FIVE tries.
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Zeke’s performance has slid indeed once he got his deal , yet he was top 3 leader in stats in 2019 .Which tells you stats mean nothing , including Dak passing stats In 2019 . It is a W/L game and Super Bowls .
None of the top rated analysts predict a super bowl with Dak .

 

[basel90]

The rams game in the playoffs was the fault of the defense and almost every football person agrees with that.
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D was bad indeed but a winnable game with an elite QB . Dak missed many crucial throws and failed to read the game . He is not a difference maker , this is why he is not worth what he is asking for .

 

[gjkoeppen]

D was bad indeed but a winnable game with an elite QB . Dak missed many crucial throws and failed to read the game . He is not a difference maker , this is why he is not worth what he is asking for .

So every year that oh say Rodgers or Brees or even Brady didn't win the Super Bowl that none of the playoff games they lost were winnable and none of them missed any passes in those games or none of those QB threw any picks in those games that by the way Prescott didn't do in that rams game. I see how evenly you apply your logic (sarcasm).
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