Another America's Team Poll-ESPN

[big dog cowboy]

The Dallas Cowboys were, are, and always will be "America's Team".

:signmast:

 

[sonnyboy]

Totally invalid poll. You can't give fans of 32 teams 4 choices.

Now I know there certainly some techinical issues with offering 33 choices, but that's fair.

Give em 32 teams and the no team option and see who wins.

It's obvious the "no team option" is there to simply give the Cowboys a chance to not win the poll.

 

[Tovya]

Every time I hear a Pittsburgh Steelers fan whine about how they are the *REAL* America's Team, it makes me dislike their fan base even more.

Last season, I went to a local sports bar that is the DFW Steelers hangout to watch the Colts-Steelers game, and the experience made me detest them even more.

I'm not a HUGE Colts fan, but they've been my AFC team since I learned to walk--plus I've always been a big fan of Peyton Manning.

I don't know how many of you watched that game, but it was a great game.

Unfortunately for me, I was the ONLY Colts fan in the building amongst about 100 Steelers fans, and the entire night the entire bar was screaming obsenities at me, and mocking me.

It was cool, I'm a good sport, it's all in good fun...

but towards the last few drives of the game, Peyton came out and revealed his greatness once again, and had a comeback drive that's one for the books, and of course, I was happy to dish out the same thing they were throwing at me all night.

The bar went completely silent (except for me, I was estatic of course), and I came pretty darn close to being jumped by 100 angry Steelers fans. The owner of the bar told me, "you got balls man, but I'd get out of here if I were you".

And I did.

Anyway, the moral of the story is, Steelers fans are passionate--and that's a good thing under most circumstances, but they are the whiniest bunch of fans of any franchise of any sport.

They talk smack with the best of them, but whenever things aren't going their way, they don't like to have the same stuff thrown back at them.

Every Steeler fan I've ever met is orginally from the Pittsburgh area--but being in international business, I've met people in Japan, China, and elsewhere that love their Cowboys as much as I do.

We are a classy organization that transends the affiliation of being from the Metroplex--we are not America's team, we are the world's team.

And those miserable Steelers fans can shove their whiney crap attitudes where the sun don't shine as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Future]

Cowboys fans don't have to vote. We and the rest of the country know who America's team is. Other fans voting in that are just little brothers trying to prove they belong.

 

[bigE79]

Every time I hear a Pittsburgh Steelers fan whine about how they are the *REAL* America's Team, it makes me dislike their fan base even more.

Last season, I went to a local sports bar that is the DFW Steelers hangout to watch the Colts-Steelers game, and the experience made me detest them even more.

I'm not a HUGE Colts fan, but they've been my AFC team since I learned to walk--plus I've always been a big fan of Peyton Manning.

I don't know how many of you watched that game, but it was a great game.

Unfortunately for me, I was the ONLY Colts fan in the building amongst about 100 Steelers fans, and the entire night the entire bar was screaming obsenities at me, and mocking me.

It was cool, I'm a good sport, it's all in good fun...

but towards the last few drives of the game, Peyton came out and revealed his greatness once again, and had a comeback drive that's one for the books, and of course, I was happy to dish out the same thing they were throwing at me all night.

The bar went completely silent (except for me, I was estatic of course), and I came pretty darn close to being jumped by 100 angry Steelers fans. The owner of the bar told me, "you got balls man, but I'd get out of here if I were you".

And I did.

Anyway, the moral of the story is, Steelers fans are passionate--and that's a good thing under most circumstances, but they are the whiniest bunch of fans of any franchise of any sport.

They talk smack with the best of them, but whenever things aren't going their way, they don't like to have the same stuff thrown back at them.

Every Steeler fan I've ever met is orginally from the Pittsburgh area--but being in international business, I've met people in Japan, China, and elsewhere that love their Cowboys as much as I do.

We are a classy organization that transends the affiliation of being from the Metroplex--we are not America's team, we are the world's team.

And those miserable Steelers fans can shove their whiney crap attitudes where the sun don't shine as far as I'm concerned.

 

[speedkilz88]

Every single one acknowleded the real "America's Team" they just hate that they are the one.

Kevin Seifert

Intuitively, it's hard to imagine their fans outnumber those of the Dallas Cowboys or Pittsburgh Steelers.

It's also easy to understand why more fans across the country would identify with the Cowboys or Steelers.

James Walker

The current version -- the Dallas Cowboys -- no longer deserves this distinguished title.

By Tim Graham

All of those franchises that have qualified to represent a nation -- New York Yankees, Dallas Cowboys, Los Angeles Lakers, Notre Dame Fighting Irish -- also are among the most hated.

It's time to rescind the Cowboys' honor and turn it over to the Patriots.

 

[cowboyjoe]

Are Cowboys still America's Team?
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Nobody excels at filling the downtime of the NFL year with meaningless debates more than ESPN.

Here's an example: Their team of bloggers is debating whether the Cowboys ought to give up the America's Team title given to them by NFL Films in the late '70s. The competitors for the crown are the Packers, Steelers and Patriots.

Matt Mosley, the founder of this here blog, does a fine job defending a franchise that hasn't won a playoff game since 1996.

Love them or hate them, the Cowboys are still the most polarizing franchise in the NFL. Even during the lean years of the late 1990s and early 2000s, the networks still craved the ratings generated by the Cowboys. That's why I laugh when people talk about how the Steelers or Packers should be in the running for "America's Team."
I don't think Art Rooney would've wanted that at all in Pittsburgh. He wanted the Steelers to be Pittsburgh's team. And that's exactly what happened. Green Bay and Pittsburgh fans will travel across the country to watch their teams. And when you talk to them in the parking lots, you find that most of them spent time living in those areas.

It's different with the Cowboys. You show up at a hotel in downtown Charlotte, N.C., and there are 400 Cowboys fans roaming the lobby. Maybe a handful of that group made the trip from Dallas. No team in the NFL casts a wider net than the Cowboys in terms of fans. And that's why the Cowboys remain the true "America's Team."

 

[DallasDomination]

I hate all these idiots that try and justify why their team is Americas team or why the new trend in the NFL is Americas team.

THE DALLAS COWBOYS will always be Americas team. ....Cowboys #1:starspin

 

[Everlastingxxx]

THE DALLAS COWBOYS will always be Americas team. ....Cowboys #1:starspin

:starspin

I voted.

 

[RainMan]

This, IMO, is all that needs to be said about whether the Dallas Cowboys remain America's Team:

This franchise hasn't won a playoff game in 12 frickin' seasons, yet when this debate and others related to it -- such as most profitable franchise, most loved franchise and most hated franchise -- pop up, it's always the Cowboys' name that tops the list.

Green Bay and Pittsburgh are wonderful franchises with terrific fan bases. I'm not sure there's a better home field advantage than Green Bay, and I doubt there's a better traveling fan base than Pittsburgh.

Yet it's the Cowboys, even when we are amid one of our worst droughts of success ever, that generally piques the most interest nationally and internationally.

End of story.

How relevant were the Packers in the 1980s? And it's a testament to Pittsburgh that they haven't had a drought in recent memory, but let's see how much America loves them when they go a decade without doing anything. Just imagine if we ever start winning playoff games again.

 

[Ren]

Remember when everyone tried to make the Saints Americas team?


Who cares about the Saints now? :laugh2:

 

[firehawk350]

Stupidest poll ever. It exists purely and solely to rile up fanbases and increase page hits. The guys at ESPN knew that somebody trying to give away the America's Team (as if nicknames are given away by 4 guys debating) moniker would get Cowboys fans all up in a tizzy and get them to visit the website to vote. IF somebody wanted to conduct a real survey, they would survey the general populace, not put it on a sports website. All this idiocy proves is Cowboys fans care more about being labelled America's Team than anybody else.

For the record, the Cowboys are definitely not the "world's" team. That is ********. The world doesn't care about the NFL and American football. People in Africa care about American football about as much as we care about the sport of curling.

As for me, I don't care if the Cowboys think they are America's Team. To think the Cowboys represent America (to who, other Americans?) is idiotic and only a moron could believe it. Maybe if somebody defined what qualities would comprise "America's Team", we could actually make a better judgment. America's Team, at this point, is just a way Cowboys fans can sit around and congratulate each other for being Cowboys fans.

 

[DallasEast]

Stupidest poll ever. It exists purely and solely to rile up fanbases and increase page hits. The guys at ESPN knew that somebody trying to give away the America's Team (as if nicknames are given away by 4 guys debating) moniker would get Cowboys fans all up in a tizzy and get them to visit the website to vote. IF somebody wanted to conduct a real survey, they would survey the general populace, not put it on a sports website. All this idiocy proves is Cowboys fans care more about being labelled America's Team than anybody else.

For the record, the Cowboys are definitely not the "world's" team. That is ********. The world doesn't care about the NFL and American football. People in Africa care about American football about as much as we care about the sport of curling.

As for me, I don't care if the Cowboys think they are America's Team. To think the Cowboys represent America (to who, other Americans?) is idiotic and only a moron could believe it. Maybe if somebody defined what qualities would comprise "America's Team", we could actually make a better judgment. America's Team, at this point, is just a way Cowboys fans can sit around and congratulate each other for being Cowboys fans.

Don't get so riled up. It's just a nickname which accurately reflects the largest American professional football fan following. That's all.

 

[Ren]

Stupidest poll ever. It exists purely and solely to rile up fanbases and increase page hits. The guys at ESPN knew that somebody trying to give away the America's Team (as if nicknames are given away by 4 guys debating) moniker would get Cowboys fans all up in a tizzy and get them to visit the website to vote. IF somebody wanted to conduct a real survey, they would survey the general populace, not put it on a sports website. All this idiocy proves is Cowboys fans care more about being labelled America's Team than anybody else.

For the record, the Cowboys are definitely not the "world's" team. That is ********. The world doesn't care about the NFL and American football. People in Africa care about American football about as much as we care about the sport of curling.

As for me, I don't care if the Cowboys think they are America's Team. To think the Cowboys represent America (to who, other Americans?) is idiotic and only a moron could believe it. Maybe if somebody defined what qualities would comprise "America's Team", we could actually make a better judgment. America's Team, at this point, is just a way Cowboys fans can sit around and congratulate each other for being Cowboys fans.

yet the NFL could have filled Wembley 10x over for the last 2 NFL games held there, but you're right no one outside of the US cares, I am not here pretending i care cause i have nothing better to do.

Your wrong about that last part too, we don't congratulate each other for being cowboys fans as much as we do for not being Commanders fans. If we ever need to feel better about our selves all we really have to do is go read a Commanders forum :laugh1:

 

[firehawk350]

Hey, I'm just surprised you guys make such great sheeple. I mean, everybody was so blinded by the whole reaction of "OMG, they are trying to say we aren't America's Team" that nobody pointed out that this was just all just a ploy to get more ad revenue. Regardless, I don't care if there are more Cowboys fans than any other team. What is that supposed to prove? Rap sells more albums than rock, does that mean it's a better style of music?

 

[Cajuncowboy]

Funny thing about this poll. In states where there is a team with a strong allegiance, that home team is "America's Team." But in states and world wide if you take out the odd "No team is America's Team" option, the Cowboys are running away with it. In other words, Dallas is universally known as America's team even by this own polls standards when you exclude the last, what I call, the hater option.

 

[Ren]

Hey, I'm just surprised you guys make such great sheeple. I mean, everybody was so blinded by the whole reaction of "OMG, they are trying to say we aren't America's Team" that nobody pointed out that this was just all just a ploy to get more ad revenue. Regardless, I don't care if there are more Cowboys fans than any other team. What is that supposed to prove? Rap sells more albums than rock, does that mean it's a better style of music?

I was only pointing out that your "the rest of the world don't care" assumption is flawed, as overseas TV ratings and attendance easily backs up the opposite

 

[Hostile]

Stupidest poll ever. It exists purely and solely to rile up fanbases and increase page hits. The guys at ESPN knew that somebody trying to give away the America's Team (as if nicknames are given away by 4 guys debating) moniker would get Cowboys fans all up in a tizzy and get them to visit the website to vote. IF somebody wanted to conduct a real survey, they would survey the general populace, not put it on a sports website. All this idiocy proves is Cowboys fans care more about being labelled America's Team than anybody else.

For the record, the Cowboys are definitely not the "world's" team. That is ********. The world doesn't care about the NFL and American football. People in Africa care about American football about as much as we care about the sport of curling.

As for me, I don't care if the Cowboys think they are America's Team. To think the Cowboys represent America (to who, other Americans?) is idiotic and only a moron could believe it. Maybe if somebody defined what qualities would comprise "America's Team", we could actually make a better judgment. America's Team, at this point, is just a way Cowboys fans can sit around and congratulate each other for being Cowboys fans.

It never ceases to amuse me when fans of another team talk about the nickname "America's Team." You guys have no earthly clue what the hell you are talking about 90% of the time.

The nickname has NOTHING to do with "representing America." It is a metaphor, a comparison to a known quality, an allusion to something else, or an analogy. Whatever you wish to call it. In reality it is just a nickname given to us by a media outlet. There's nothing sinister about it. Nothing hidden. Yet so many of you still don't get it.

Here's something I posted almost 3 years ago. It is still relevant to the point today. A little advice I like to call "Embrace the Hatred." I am going to bold a couple of parts so that it hopefully sinks in for you finally.

I have some advice for those who get upset by this hatred and bias. It's real simple, embrace the hatred. Soak it up. Revel in it. Let it put a smile on your face that can't be wiped off no matter how hard they rub. Hell, dance if you've got rhythm, or even if you don't but could give a crap who's watching.

Do anything but whine about some new hatred or bias. It isn't new. Not by a long shot.

Some of us have embraced this hatred for years. On cold nights it keeps us warm. You want to know why we accept it? Because no one hates a doormat. Be serious for a minute, how many of you have ever heard of someone who hates the Detroit Lions? They're a doormat. Well, folks no one wipes their feet on the Dallas Cowboys. We kick back. With spurs on our boots.

It's real simple math. No one hates the doormats because they don't matter. They don't sell. There's no sex appeal.

Folks, the Dallas Cowboys are sexy, and sex sells. Everything about the Cowboys sells. We're right smack dab in the middle of the country and the football world revolves around us. Don't believe it? Look at the TV ratings and do the math. We sell. The Dallas Cowboys being good is good for the NFL. Bet on it.

Why do other nations hate America? Because we're the biggest, baddest cats on the planet. There's more money here. There's more excitement. There's more opportunity. None of that is bad, so why do they hate us? Because looking up hurts their necks, and they're cranky as hell.

If America is the cream of the crop, then America's Team is too. That's what that nickname was meant to portray. The best. People hate the best. Let 'em.

Haven't you ever noticed how that nickname infuriates some people? It's just a freaking nickname for crying out loud. No one decries the "Purple People Eaters." How can cannibalism not be offensive? Because there's no prestige in it. No one is trying to get that nickname. America's team? Everyone wants it. Too damn bad, that's ours. Keep your grubby hands off or you'll pull back a bloody stump.

Opposing team's fans will tell you that the nickname is offensive, but look how many of them want it for themselves. This year we were encouraged to loan the nickname to New Orleans because of their rebuilding from Katrina. The team in our Nation's capital wants the nickname. The Steelers have laid claim to it. So have the Packers. So have the Jets and Giants after 9/11. So have the Patriots. It's a redundant theme. Not even baseball teams like the Braves or Yankees have been able to pry that moniker away from the Cowboys. Nor the Lakers or Celtics in basketball.

You want to know why none of them ever get to use that nickname? They can't earn it. Love us or hate us, the Cowboys earned the nickname America's Team. How can I say this? Simple, have we ever lost it? Even when we were doormats the name was used. The media still loves to use it.

I didn't bold the part about doormats and how we were doormats and we still had the nickname, but I could have. It's about the interest the Cowboys stir up around the football world, just like the interest America stirs up around the real world.

Does any other team affect TV ratings the way the Cowboys can? No.

Does any other country affect world policy the way America can? No.

Does everyone love the Cowboys? No.

Does everyone love America? No.

Are you getting it yet? Is it finally sinking in? Yes, to a degree we care about the nickname. It amuses the hell out of us that so many of you get your panties in a wad over it. It amuses us how many of you claim it is offensive on one hand and then try to explain to us why your team should have it. Wait, if it's offensive, why do you want it? Oh right, it has some prestige to it that you want. We get it. The question is...do you?

 

[firehawk350]

I was only pointing out that your "the rest of the world don't care" assumption is flawed, as overseas TV ratings and attendance easily backs up the opposite

Why did NFL Europe do so crappy then? Besides, in Britain, there's a close enough connection to the US that you could fill a stadium. Even so, that hardly backs up that the rest of the world cares about football given it's a single game once a year. The Super Bowl attracts about 150 million viewers worldwide (in 230 countries). I think we can safely say though that most of these are Americans or Americans who are in foreign countries.

 

[firehawk350]

It never ceases to amuse me when fans of another team talk about the nickname "America's Team." You guys have no earthly clue what the hell you are talking about 90% of the time.

The nickname has NOTHING to do with "representing America." It is a metaphor, a comparison to a known quality, an allusion to something else, or an analogy. Whatever you wish to call it. In reality it is just a nickname given to us by a media outlet. There's nothing sinister about it. Nothing hidden. Yet so many of you still don't get it.

I honestly don’t give a flying **** about the nickname. Keep it. I don’t really care. It’s idiotic to think that the Cowboys in any way, shape or form represents or is analogous to America. What do the COWBOYS represent anyways? Being hated? Fine. Being loved? Fine. Being a polarizing figure? Fine. If popularity and other people’s opinions are what does it for you, great, keep rocking on with that.

Here's something I posted almost 3 years ago. It is still relevant to the point today. A little advice I like to call "Embrace the Hatred." I am going to bold a couple of parts so that it hopefully sinks in for you finally.

Which was as much of a start to a circle jerk then as it is now. I avoided it then as well, in case you were curious (as I believe that you should be able to do your little circle jerks in your own space).

I didn't bold the part about doormats and how we were doormats and we still had the nickname, but I could have. It's about the interest the Cowboys stir up around the football world, just like the interest America stirs up around the real world.

Does any other team affect TV ratings the way the Cowboys can? No.

Does any other country affect world policy the way America can? No.

Does everyone love the Cowboys? No.

Does everyone love America? No.

You can make a couple of parallels between America and the Cowboys. Great. That still doesn’t prove anything. I can make a couple of parallels between just about any team in the league and America too.

Are you getting it yet? Is it finally sinking in? Yes, to a degree we care about the nickname. It amuses the hell out of us that so many of you get your panties in a wad over it. It amuses us how many of you claim it is offensive on one hand and then try to explain to us why your team should have it. Wait, if it's offensive, why do you want it? Oh right, it has some prestige to it that you want. We get it. The question is...do you?

I don’t really care. It may get Steelers fans all hot and bothered, and Pats fans may care, but Commanders fans (and a majority of the NFL) just don’t care. If you said, right this second, you would give the Commanders the label, I wouldn’t care and nor would anybody else. I don’t find it offensive. A lot of other companies and brand’s claim to be “America’s whatever”. Why not a football team? Does it have to be the team I like? You guys have fun with all that though, I was just here to say that ESPN is clearly pulling a fast one with you and none of you have picked up on it. Just for the record, I don’t care if the Cowboys are known as America’s Team.