Another Henson Thread, (But An Interesting Observation Nonetheless)...

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...There's been a lot of discussion on the board over the past year or so regarding Henson and his mechanics. One of the things discussed is the noticeable delay some observers see at times in Henson's drop from center after he takes the snap. I've seen it numerous times and am convinced it hinders his performance due to the jump it gives the D-linemen and the pressure he faces as a result of the delay.

Well I was re-watching the Arizona game and the Seattle game over the last couple nights and I saw something very interesting in the Arizona game that I believe is the answer to the question many posters and observers have raised about this split-second hesitation on Henson's drop.

At the beginning of the 4th quarter of the Arizona game, when Henson threw the best ball he threw that night, which was the sideline out-route to Copper, (I believe), they showed a very interesting replay. It was from ground level behind the Cowboys' line of scrimmage and as it started they zoomed in on Henson taking the snap from center. It was a slow motion replay so you had an excellent view.

On the tape you can clearly see the top of Henson's right hand pressed against the center's butt with the palm of is left hand pressed against the palm of his right hand forming the classic V needed to take the snap. At the moment the ball was snapped Henson dropped his left hand away from his right hand creating a space of several inches between his hands. The center snapped the ball and pressed it up against Henson's right hand. Henson started to drop back and had to move his left hand back up against the ball to "catch" it and take the snap. You could clearly see the split-second hesitation on Henson's part as he moved away from center and you could see the DEs getting a split-second jump off the corners to bring pressure to Henson as he was starting his pass drop.
On that particular play the OTs were able to protect Henson, but I've seen numerous examples of the delay and I believe it contributes to the pressure Henson faces on some of the plays and as a result he sometimes has trouble getting the throw off. All of this may sound ridiculous, but I believe this slight mechanical problem is very significant.

I have a buddy who knows David Lee. Actually my buddy has a first cousin who played with Lee at Vanderbilt when Parcells was there as an assistant coach, so my buddy knows Lee through his cousin. He said his cousin remains very close with Lee and my buddy said Lee is really a great, nice guy. I've thought of trying to get my friend to call Lee and see if they have seen the problem with Henson and give him this information.

I'm sure my buddy will probably tell me I'm crazy and I can write Lee and tell him myself. :)

By the way, what is it with the Cowboys and QBs who can't take a snap from center? Didn't they have to teach Quincy how to properly do it when he got here? No wonder we have such trouble at that position... :eek::
 

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Great observation, CA. We were talking about how Henson had reverted back to that delay in dropping back after not noticing it in the Arizona game.

Please don't tell me you noticed this as a fan with a VCR and David Lee, Payton, and Parcells don't know about it. :(
 

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As a former QB, if this what you saw then yes absolutely this is the problem. You are definitely not suppose to separate your hands when recieving the snap. As a freshmen, I had a ball snap to me and wedge up between my wrists before I got control. You have to keep them together and have the center wedge it into the hands. Also, I was finally taught in college, not HS of course, that as you are recieving the snap, your right foot should be in motion stepping away. Anyway, I can't believe the Cowboys can't get these simple mechanics 101 fixed. Have your friend pass it on and see if it doesn't work. Also, tell them to correct that stupid pat, pat, pat of Bledsoe's...101 again.
 

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When I played Football in High School we had a QB who had the same problem. Our coach worked with him a lot to correct it going so far as to tape his wrist together so that he could not separate them and have him take snaps like that over and over. As the MLB the coach had me look for that flaw in practice and if I saw it I was to charge the QB and try to knock him on his tail and cause him to fumble; the coach would of course then be all over him about it. It was great fun since he was an arrogant little so-n-so anyway. And it even worked on the opponents QB in a game once when I saw him make the same mistake. :D
 

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Thanks for the responses. I thought it was strange and cannot understand why the coaches can't see his hesitation on film. I know they probably can't see it or detect it from the sidelines, but Geez Louise you would think someone in the booth or in their film sessions would notice it.

I see it as a serious flaw that should be easily correctable.
 

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After Kurt Warner's thumb injury, they made him overlap his right thumb over the left one to protect it. A side effect was that he stopped doing what you just mentioned, and stopped botching snaps.

If you have any way to let Lee know about the problem....do-eet.
 

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Hutchinson used to have a delay receiving the snap as well. He would almost drop down a few inches everytime the ball was snapped. Looked crazy.

Anyway, we need to run more of the shotgun anyway. That would solve this problem whenever we did.
 

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His mechanics are all screwed up. After 5,000 throws or whatever in the offseason, he's still throwing like a 3rd baseman. People keep making excuses for his game and cite the "motion change", but it hasn't worked. He still throws like a third baseman. Top that off with 'ol one-look Willie's one-look ways and you've got a serious clown behind center.

Thank the Lord we're not relying on him in any way, shape or form at this point.
 

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Banned_n_austin said:
His mechanics are all screwed up. After 5,000 throws or whatever in the offseason, he's still throwing like a 3rd baseman. People keep making excuses for his game and cite the "motion change", but it hasn't worked. He still throws like a third baseman. Top that off with 'ol one-look Willie's one-look ways and you've got a serious clown behind center.

Thank the Lord we're not relying on him in any way, shape or form at this point.

Get a little objectivity man. He may not be there yet and maybe he never will but his motion looks different than last year admit it. What is your issue are you a Buckeye lover or something, sheesh!
 

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fiveandcounting said:
Get a little objectivity man. He may not be there yet and maybe he never will but his motion looks different than last year admit it. What is your issue are you a Buckeye lover or something, sheesh!

Henson turned him down one time for an autograph. :)
 

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fiveandcounting said:
Get a little objectivity man. He may not be there yet and maybe he never will but his motion looks different than last year admit it. What is your issue are you a Buckeye lover or something, sheesh!


I agreed with the point of the thread ... I just added my own observations ... my two cents, if you will. And no, his motion still stinks. Look at it tommorow. One-look Willie is side-armed in his release ...
 

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Banned_n_austin said:
I agreed with the point of the thread ... I just added my own observations ... my two cents, if you will. And no, his motion still stinks. Look at it tommorow. One-look Willie is side-armed in his release ...

Yeah, but he can turn the double play when we need it and Romo can get us out of the sand trap.
 

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CaptainAmerica said:
...Well I was re-watching the Arizona game and the Seattle game over the last couple nights and I saw something very interesting in the Arizona game that I believe is the answer to the question many posters and observers have raised about this split-second hesitation on Henson's drop.

:eek::

You are absolutely correct.....I keep thinkin our lineman had jumped the count and was look for a flag. I did not realize it was Henson not receiving the snap clean.

This is the post of the week!:bow:
 

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I have been talking about this hesitation he has since last year. It is ridiculous and I cannot believe he has not been coached on this.
 

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CactusCowboy said:
I have been talking about this hesitation he has since last year. It is ridiculous and I cannot believe he has not been coached on this.

Yeah, it was real bad in the Chicago game last year. It's not as bad this year, but you can still see it. I wish someone would ask Micky or JJT about it.

I'm sure it's easier to spot when you are watching on TV than on the sidelines or in the booth, but you would think on the film they watch they would see it. It drives me crazy!!
 

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I definitely noticed it but Bledsoe did it half the time also! Romo is the only one that looked like he was getting a clean snap and starting his drop on time. Whatever the problem, they better get it fixed quick because its not going to cut it.

I also agree that we should go more shotgun formations. Sure give Bledsoe and Henson an extra second or two and better view to read the d, and they need every advantage they can get.
 
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