Another hospital calls CPS on parents who question routine medical procedures

[Hoofbite]

Yeah, it has something to do with the blood clotting correctly or something. That's neither here nor there.

The hospital had no right to do this because they knew the baby was in no danger. They just caused a problem for no reason. And on top of that, they were proven wrong. Once the parent checked the baby out of the hospital, the case was noted and that was it. There was no chance of a law suit.

It wasn't about being right or wrong. It was about protecting their own *****.

With the number of threads we have about ridiculous lawsuits, I can't believe there's actual discussion about someone who takes a proactive measure to protect themselves from one.

 

[Cajuncowboy]

It wasn't about being right or wrong. It was about protecting their own *****.

With the number of threads we have about ridiculous lawsuits, I can't believe there's actual discussion about someone who takes a proactive measure to protect themselves from one.

It was an abuse of the system. They didn't protect their ***** from anything. They knew it before they made the call. If you check yourself out of a hospital you have to sign a waiver clearing the staff and admitting you refused treatment. Or didn't they teach you that yet in doctor school?

The only ay I would agree with you is if they didn't go through the proper check out procedure and they just bundled Jr. up and walked out. Doubt that is what the parents did since he was the FORMER CHIEF OF STAFF.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

What is worse than this though are parents who refuse to immunize their children, usually for silly reasons, and whose children then go out and spread diseases like Whooping Cough, Scarlett Fever, measles, mumps etc to the rest of us.

 

[Cajuncowboy]

What is worse than this though are parents who refuse to immunize their children, usually for silly reasons, and whose children then go out and spread diseases like Whooping Cough, Scarlett Fever, measles, mumps etc to the rest of us.

Well we agree on something here. (Yes the Earth just shook a little) I fully believe children should be immunized.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

What is worse than this though are parents who refuse to immunize their children, usually for silly reasons, and whose children then go out and spread diseases like Whooping Cough, Scarlett Fever, measles, mumps etc to the rest of us.

Some parents want to spread the immunizations out, which is reasonable. And just because N does good for X amount of people doesn't mean N doesn't cause harm to others....

This type of thinking is only thinking of one side. Of course, we'll hear 30Yard come piping in about how science is being ignored in vain. But that's simply not the case. The fact is, science is still not done pushing the limits of human knowledge. We know what we know. We don't fully understand all aspects of immunizations and some studies point to them causing defects or abnormalities.

I wouldn't count on big pharma to own up to any negative finding even if there were any.

 

[Hoofbite]

It was an abuse of the system. They didn't protect their ***** from anything. They knew it before they made the call. If you check yourself out of a hospital you have to sign a waiver clearing the staff and admitting you refused treatment. Or didn't they teach you that yet in doctor school?

The only ay I would agree with you is if they didn't go through the proper check out procedure and they just bundled Jr. up and walked out. Doubt that is what the parents did since he was the FORMER CHIEF OF STAFF.

The waiver would imply the signee has full informed consent and the ability to do so.

Would never hold up with an infant for the doctor to knowingly NOT do something they believe is in the best interest of the infant.

 

[Cajuncowboy]

The waiver would imply the signee has full informed consent and the ability to do so.

Would never hold up with an infant for the doctor to knowingly NOT do something they believe is in the best interest of the infant.

So you are saying the Doctor should have gave the injection against the parent's wishes?

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

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[Hoofbite]

So you are saying the Doctor should have gave the injection against the parent's wishes?

No

I'm saying that the parent waiving anything for an infant wouldn't protect the doctor from legal repercussions if the doctor didn't do what they know to be in the best interest of the child.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

This is why CPS takes children for the slightest of reasons. Not only does their agency get federal funding, they are also looking for their own personal, monetary "bonus". This from the State of Florida:

Title XXX. Social Welfare (Chapters 409-434)
Chapter 409. Social and Economic Assistance (Refs & Annos)
409.1672. Incentives for department employees

In order to promote accomplishing the goal of family preservation, family reunification, or permanent placement of a child in an adoptive home, the department may, pursuant to s. 110, chapter 92-142, Laws of Florida, or subsequent legislative authority and within existing resources, develop monetary performance incentives such as bonuses, salary increases, and educational enhancements for department employees engaged in positions and activities related to the child welfare system under chapter 39 or this chapter who demonstrate outstanding work in these areas.

CREDIT(S)

Laws 1994, c. 94-164, § 50. Amended by Laws 1998, c. 98-403, § 146, ***. Oct. 1, 1998.

West's F. S. A. § 409.1672, FL ST § 409.1672
Current with all legislation in effect from the 2006 Second Regular Session
of the Nineteenth Legislature

© 2006 Thomson/West
END OF DOCUMENT

 

[Bigdog]

This is why CPS takes children for the slightest of reasons. Not only does their agency get federal funding, they are also looking for their own personal, monetary "bonus". This from the State of Florida:

Title XXX. Social Welfare (Chapters 409-434)
Chapter 409. Social and Economic Assistance (Refs & Annos)
409.1672. Incentives for department employees

In order to promote accomplishing the goal of family preservation, family reunification, or permanent placement of a child in an adoptive home, the department may, pursuant to s. 110, chapter 92-142, Laws of Florida, or subsequent legislative authority and within existing resources, develop monetary performance incentives such as bonuses, salary increases, and educational enhancements for department employees engaged in positions and activities related to the child welfare system under chapter 39 or this chapter who demonstrate outstanding work in these areas.

CREDIT(S)

Laws 1994, c. 94-164, § 50. Amended by Laws 1998, c. 98-403, § 146, ***. Oct. 1, 1998.

West's F. S. A. § 409.1672, FL ST § 409.1672
Current with all legislation in effect from the 2006 Second Regular Session
of the Nineteenth Legislature

© 2006 Thomson/West
END OF DOCUMENT

I could be wrong here but it says goal is for family preservation or family reunification also. So it looks like they don't always try to take the child away but try to reunify the child or keep the family intact also as incentive.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

I could be wrong here but it says goal is for family preservation or family reunification also. So it looks like they don't always try to take the child away but try to reunify the child or keep the family intact also as incentive.

Reunification takes almost a year in most cases. In the meantime they are fostered with family if not strangers, which costs money given to CPS....

Also, saying reunification is a goal is like saying Janet Reno is pretty. There are some messed up people making these decisions....

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

family reunification, or permanent placement of a child in an adoptive home, the department may, pursuant to s. 110, chapter 92-142, Laws of Florida, or subsequent legislative authority and within existing resources, develop monetary performance incentives such as bonuses, salary increases, and educational enhancements for department employees engaged in positions and activities related to the child welfare system under chapter 39 or this chapter who demonstrate outstanding work in these areas.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

I could be wrong here but it says goal is for family preservation or family reunification also. So it looks like they don't always try to take the child away but try to reunify the child or keep the family intact also as incentive.

Also, based on your interpretation, it seems they have quite the vested interested in removing your child, which explains fraudulent documents, false statements, exaggerations, et cetera, that we see time and time again.

If you look, it's not hard to see their corruption.