Another look at Brandon Weeden

[Galian Beast]

I'm surprised at what I would call the hypocrisy on this board. Many people want to run Weeden out of town, but at the same time want us to jump into the first round of a draft and draft our own potential bust.

You say, oh no, he doesn't have to start immediately. But somehow Brandon Weeden would? Brandon Weeden was basically a rookie last year. I say this because he had to learn an entirely new system from the ground up after leaving Cleveland and also because he didn't get a ton of playing time in Cleveland who also had a QB carousel.

Was he drafted in the first round? Yes, he was (albeit a bit late). He only got two years in Cleveland, and not two years of simply learning the game like you all want to give a QB here, rather he started (albeit still not many games. He started 15 games his rookie year, but only played in 8 games his second year.

I'm not saying that Weeden is the guy, but I do think that with time and development we should see what he can give us. It's a free look and I like how the Cowboys have approached bringing in former first round draft picks, who don't necessarily need to start day 1. We can coach them up and work on whatever is holding them back. They have time, but some of you are so obsessed with the pageantry of drafting a qb in round 1 that you can't see reason.

 

[perrykemp]

I'm not saying that Weeden is the guy, but I do think that with time and development we should see what he can give us.

He'll be 32 in October. He'll be ready to retire roughly the same time Romo retires.

His career completion percentage is 56% which is just awful.

I find it impossible to look at Weeden as anything other than a career backup at this point -- to envision him as a full time starter is a dream.

 

[Alexander]

I'm surprised at what I would call the hypocrisy on this board. Many people want to run Weeden out of town, but at the same time want us to jump into the first round of a draft and draft our own potential bust.

Wait, there were a flood of posters suggesting Dallas draft a QB in the first this year? News to me.

You say, oh no, he doesn't have to start immediately. But somehow Brandon Weeden would? Brandon Weeden was basically a rookie last year. I say this because he had to learn an entirely new system from the ground up after leaving Cleveland and also because he didn't get a ton of playing time in Cleveland who also had a QB carousel.

Was he drafted in the first round? Yes, he was (albeit a bit late). He only got two years in Cleveland, and not two years of simply learning the game like you all want to give a QB here, rather he started (albeit still not many games. He started 15 games his rookie year, but only played in 8 games his second year.

You could say that about any young QB. In fact, you could even say that about a QB who switches teams. I bet there are Oakland fans saying the same thing about Ponder, just so they feel justified ignoring their body of work in three seasons. Sometimes a player is overdrafted and is just not equipped.

I'm not saying that Weeden is the guy, but I do think that with time and development we should see what he can give us. It's a free look and I like how the Cowboys have approached bringing in former first round draft picks, who don't necessarily need to start day 1.

The time and development should end this season. In fact, I am not even sure if we should not just devote that energy to Vaughan.

We can coach them up and work on whatever is holding them back.

It is as if you think that coaching up is the magic cure that for some reasons teams are ignoring? Not sure what your point is exactly.

They have time, but some of you are so obsessed with the pageantry of drafting a qb in round 1 that you can't see reason.

I think you invented this fairy tale just to justify making another thread.

 

[Galian Beast]

Wait, there were a flood of posters suggesting Dallas draft a QB in the first this year? News to me.



You could say that about any young QB. In fact, you could even say that about a QB who switches teams. I bet there are Oakland fans saying the same thing about Ponder, just so they feel justified ignoring their body of work in three seasons. Sometimes a player is overdrafted and is just not equipped.



The time and development should end this season. In fact, I am not even sure if we should not just devote that energy to Vaughan.



It is as if you think that coaching up is the magic cure that for some reasons teams are ignoring? Not sure what your point is exactly.



I think you invented this fairy tale just to justify making another thread.

You have pretty selective memory. Were you the same person who said you didn't see people criticising Spencer for saying he took plays off? On my phone so I can't confirm.

A lot of people wanted a first round draft pick last year. They wanted manziel....this year we weren't in position to get a QB, but they still wanted one early. Someone just made a topic about it the other day.

Weekend a 4th year pro, should be on his last year. Second year in this system. Calm down.

And yes, weeden would be a career backup, which is perfectly fine.

 

[noshame]

No reason we need to make a choice, let them battle it out in TC and pre-season and the best takes the second spot. I wouldn't put a large wager on BW though, all the tools, no head. Vaughn otoh has shown promise and kudos to the team for picking him up.

 

[CyberB0b]

Do you throw a dart at the team photo and decide to make a thread? He's a bum in his early 30s. He is what he is at this point.

 

[basstapp]

He would be the oldest rookie ever. We should keep Weeden until Vaughn or another QB show himself to be consistent. We are not going to groom Weeden into a starting QB and if we do - he will probably retire in a couple years there after.

 

[Longboysfan]

The Cowboys need to beat the bushes to find another just passing QB.
Colleges are so win now they want a runner / thrower not a pure read the defense and pick it apart QB.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

Brandon Weeden was basically a rookie last year. I say this because he had to learn an entirely new system from the ground up after leaving Cleveland and also because he didn't get a ton of playing time in Cleveland who also had a QB carousel.

He'll be 32, before the halfway point of the season, so if he's basically a rookie, anyone expecting anything from him is basically fooling themselves.

 

[Stash]

While I can admire the effort put into trying to start discussion threads, I don't think this topic is worthy.

Having said that, I will weight in with one thought. If Weeden isn't better than Vaughn this year, he likely won't be on the opening day roster. If he is better, he'll stick around for another year.

 

[Galian Beast]

He'll be 32, before the halfway point of the season, so if he's basically a rookie, anyone expecting anything from him is basically fooling themselves.

Am I expecting him to be a career starter or a franchise qb? No. Can he be a career backup and be an insurance policy for the rest of Romo's career, and maybe a stop gap until we can get another quarterback after Romo? Maybe.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

I'd say there is very little chance of him being a stop gap option. As far as back-up QB, I think if he plays, we can score a win against really bad teams, but will lose every time against playoff teams.

 

[CashMan]

I am waiting for a thread titled: Another look at Troy Hambrick.

 

[Doomsday101]

If Weeden can show improvement I welcome him as a backup same with Vaughn.

 

[jnday]

Am I expecting him to be a career starter or a franchise qb? No. Can he be a career backup and be an insurance policy for the rest of Romo's career, and maybe a stop gap until we can get another quarterback after Romo? Maybe.

At some point soon, Romo's replacement needs to be drafted. Romo is getting up there in age and he has took a beating for much of his career. It would be a mistake to wait until Romo retires to go looking for a QB.

 

[Bullflop]

The greatest amount of optimism I have for Weeden is in hoping he's able to improve enough to have the ability to win a game or two if called upon. Other than that, I hold no measure of optimism he'll ever be a starter for us.

 

[visionary]

I didn't even want the 'first look' at weeden so I certainly don't want another look

I believe that with all the roster upgrades one of the top issues on the team is a viable back up qb that can win a game or 2 if romo can't go

I have zero faith in weeden

 

[Doomsday101]

At some point soon, Romo's replacement needs to be drafted. Romo is getting up there in age and he has took a beating for much of his career. It would be a mistake to wait until Romo retires to go looking for a QB.

I agree. The hard part in my view is with the level of play currently we will be looking at some low pick in the 1st rd. I think a likely scenario would be a situation where the Cowboys package a deal to move up high into a draft to get a QB. Not many position would I be willing to give up a next year #1 and chances are #2 to get a player but if you think the QB you are looking at has the potential to be a franchise QB then I would hope they would do it.

 

[Sasquatch]

I thought Weeden looked decent when he was first brought in during the Commanders game. It spoke volumes that the team decided to finish the game with a hobbled Romo.

And the Cardinals game...

 

[Doomsday101]

I thought Weeden looked decent when he was first brought in during the Commanders game. It spoke volumes that the team decided to finish the game with a hobbled Romo.

And the Cardinals game...

I agree he played well vs Washington and I felt we had a good chance to win. Romo re-entering the game was a mistake.