Another Look at the Herschel Walker Deal

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Galian Beast said:
We essentially traded J.P. Losman for Julius Jones, Marcus Spears, and Drew Bledsoe.

Since there is no way we would have taken Losman, we actually traded Steven Jackson for Julius and Marcus.

I think Jackson will be a great back, but we got the better end of the deal.
 

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rcaldw said:
We have often reflected on the fact that we got all those players and draft picks for one Herschel Walker.

When looked at from that perspective is was quite an impressive deal pulled of by Jimmy and Jerry.

But when you look back to the 1985 Draft and realize that Walker was taken by us in the 5th round it is even more impressive.

We got all those players and picks for a 5th round draft pick.
I've always thought about this the same way you have. I remember thinking when we made that pick that if the USFL ever went under, Tex Schramm, Brandt, and Landry will look like geniuses.

In retrospect, one could say that Walker and just his contributions at RB for the Cowboys made Schramm and Co. look brilliant. But in my opinion, the fact that Jerry and Jimmy used Walker in order to pull off the most lop-sided trade in NFL history has unfortunately overshadowed how he was acquired and by who.
 

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I still think the best trade was 1st first rounders for Joey Galloway and a 3rd rounder for James McKnight. Man, what an amazing impact those picks made for Seattle!!!
 

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fortdick said:
Geez this makes me feel old! Most people my age talk about where they were when they heard Kennedy got shot!

That is too funny, I had the same thought.

I was in the 1st grade when Kennedy was shot and remember the school closing so we could all go home to be with our families.
 

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Eddie said:
I still think the best trade was 1st first rounders for Joey Galloway and a 3rd rounder for James McKnight. Man, what an amazing impact those picks made for Seattle!!!

The 3rd rounder for McKnight was not that bad.
 

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CrazyCowboy said:
I love Walker for personally making the DALLAS COWBOYS the team of the 90's!

You can thank Mike Lynn while you are at it.

To this day, I still admire the gumption Mr. Jones and Coach Johnson had to make that trade.

Everyone...EVERYONE...panned the trade. Especially after Walker broke a long one in his first game as a Viking (shoe flew off and he was running on a sock) and we finished the year with one win.

Now it is hailed as the benchmark for rip off trades.

But recall the Rams did the same thing with Eric Dickerson, except they squandered their picks on players that never produced.

It was not just the picks, it was what we did with them.
 

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joseephuss said:
The 3rd rounder for McKnight was not that bad.

That was a bad trade.

Not O.J. Santiago bad, but bad enough.
 

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Cowboys (Jimmy, Jones) also made an September trade for Charles Haley with SF in '91 that seemed to turn out OK, as we recall. Didnt the Forty-Niners get a future 2nd Round pick for him?
 

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I also remember wasting a ton of those Walker picks for losers like Alonzo Highsmith and Terrance Flagler.
 

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Eddie said:
I also remember wasting a ton of those Walker picks for losers like Alonzo Highsmith and Terrance Flagler.

Dallas got Highsmith from the Oilers he had nothing to do with the Walker trade
 

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Eddie said:
I also remember wasting a ton of those Walker picks

We got so many that we could afford to blow some and that is only natural given the nature of the draft. We had quite a few early round busts under Johnson, but the quantity of picks really masked them.

Some never played a down in a Cowboy uniform, like James Richards, James Brown, Tom Myslinski and Bill Musgrave. Others were role players like Godfrey Myles, Tony Hill and Clayton Holmes. Others were just plain bad, like Alexander Wright and Curvin Richards

When we hit, it was not just solid. They were homers like Emmitt, Dixon Edwards, etc.

But it wasn't just the post Walker drafts. The 1991 draft was a complete hit with Aikman, Johnston, Stepnoski and Tolbert. Ignore the busts like Rhondy Weston.
 

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Alexander said:
We got so many that we could afford to blow some and that is only natural given the nature of the draft. We had quite a few early round busts under Johnson, but the quantity of picks really masked them.

Some never played a down in a Cowboy uniform, like James Richards, James Brown, Tom Myslinski and Bill Musgrave. Others were role players like Godfrey Myles, Tony Hill and Clayton Holmes. Others were just plain bad, like Alexander Wright and Curvin Richards

When we hit, it was not just solid. They were homers like Emmitt, Dixon Edwards, etc.

But it wasn't just the post Walker drafts. The 1991 draft was a complete hit with Aikman, Johnston, Stepnoski and Tolbert. Ignore the busts like Rhondy Weston.

Aikman, Johnston and Step were all drafted BEFORE Walker was traded. Aikman was disappointed because he thought that at LEAST he would have a franchise running back to play with. Turns out he had Paul Palmer, and then Irvin went down (who came to them in 1988), so that Aikman played with scrap players and rookies all of 1989, thus the 1-15 record.
 

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Now that I re-read your post Alexander you said it "wasn't just the POST Walker drafts", meaning you had Aikman and those guys before Walker. You just had the year wrong. It was 1989 not 91
 

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joseephuss said:
Didn't somebody trace that 5th round pick for Herschel back to a trade of Butch Johson to Houston for Mike Renfro and a 5th rounder?
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Yessir.

Then someone informed me that the pick we used to get Butch Johnson originally was from Miami in which we gave them Otto Stowe.
 

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MS17 said:
Cowboys (Jimmy, Jones) also made an September trade for Charles Haley with SF in '91 that seemed to turn out OK, as we recall. Didnt the Forty-Niners get a future 2nd Round pick for him?
That trade for Haley went down in 92... not 91. Dallas gave a 2nd round pick in 93 and a 3rd round pick in 94 for Haley.
 
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