Anthony Spencer's value

[alpha]

Here are a pair of excellent write-ups from Blogging the BEast on how (ir)replaceable Spencer is:

Anthony Spencer and the franchise tag: Of 23 OLB’s in a “true 3-4″ defense, “Almost Anthony” would be my 17th choice

"If you give Spencer $9 million, that’s money you can’t spend to fill a hole or two elsewhere, and you’re giving it to a guy that doesn’t deserve anything close to that number.
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"While I agree that Spencer’s play has been far better in comparison to the Cowboys’ situations at CB and DE, I would still absolutely classify him as “below average” in comparison to the rest of the 3-4 OLB’s league-wide.

"…and there’s just no way I could ever justify paying $9 million to a below average starter."

And Can a rookie step right in and fill Anthony Spencer’s shoes?

 

[RS12]

Circular arguement. Spencer leaves and it creates another hole on a team full of holes, only to be replaced by a rookie or vet (Wimberly as an example) who may not be any better. I dont want to spend 9 mill a year on the guy tagged, or marry to him multiple years. Looks like they are bringing him back anyway. I see a low motor, 4 sack a year guy, who runs himself out of way too many plays.

 

[ufcrules1]

Circular arguement. Spencer leaves and it creates another hole on a team full of holes, only to be replaced by a rookie or vet (Wimberly as an example) who may not be any better. I dont want to spend 9 mill a year on the guy tagged, or marry to him multiple years. Looks like they are bringing him back anyway. I see a low motor, 4 sack a year guy, who runs himself out of way too many plays.

BINGO! Spencer is also a PROVEN quitter. He admitted to quitting in 2010. I don't want a weak minded player like that on our team. Getting paid millions of dollars wasn't enough to go out there and give it his all? Please let this guy test the market.. please.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Thats already been linked and discussed when it was posted 2 weeks ago. yay we get to rehash again.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

BINGO! Spencer is also a PROVEN quitter. He admitted to quitting in 2010. I don't want a weak minded player like that on our team. Getting paid millions of dollars wasn't enough to go out there and give it his all? Please let this guy test the market.. please.

You know for someone who talks about quitters all the time you sure seem prone to quit on our players. Under your own paradigm you wouldn't want yourself on your own team.

 

[cowboy_ron]

Thats already been linked and discussed when it was posted 2 weeks ago. yay we get to rehash again.

 

[cobra]

BINGO! Spencer is also a PROVEN quitter. He admitted to quitting in 2010.

Further proof that people just repeat stuff they read on this forum as if it is fact, despite the fact they do not know what the original quote was.

Like a game of telephone, the story changes until people get it locked in their brains that something said or occurred that never really did.




It's really disgusting that so many of you are marrying yourself to your Anthony Spencer hate. Y'all are becoming so personally and emotionally invested in getting rid of the guy that it is going to cause you all to be angry if he resigned. And then as the season goes on, you'll be all butthurt and whine at everything Spencer does that is not elite. It is toxic how much some of you become so emotionally invested in personnel decisions.

 

[Goku]

spencer quit in a year when we had the super bowl in our house and he played below average in a contract year. imagine what he'll do once he's paid.

 

[cobra]

spencer quit in a year when we had the super bowl in our house

Haha!

Amazing/hilarious/depressing that this comment followed me just saying this:

Further proof that people just repeat stuff they read on this forum as if it is fact, despite the fact they do not know what the original quote was.

Like a game of telephone, the story changes until people get it locked in their brains that something said or occurred that never really did.

 

[CCBoy]

spencer quit in a year when we had the super bowl in our house and he played below average in a contract year. imagine what he'll do once he's paid.

Don't act so fearful...there's plenty of room at the burn barrel. There will be plenty of Ripple and disgust there...

 

[bevo11]

His value is not even a bag of chips...he is worthless

 

[MichaelWinicki]

His value is not even a bag of chips...he is worthless

Some folks at Valley Ranch think differently.

 

[jterrell]

While this has been discussed here in plenty of detail; the article was absolutely on point.

My own thoughts were eerily similar.

 

[Risen Star]

You know for someone who talks about quitters all the time you sure seem prone to quit on our players. Under your own paradigm you wouldn't want yourself on your own team.

Wow. That's a new one. You quit on your players.

If wanting to upgrade and/or avoid spending long term on players who aren't good enough is quitting, color me a quitter.

I only care about the laundry.

 

[Risen Star]

Some folks at Valley Ranch think differently.

And those guys are nearly flawless with personnel decisions.

 

[gimmesix]

It's really disgusting that so many of you are marrying yourself to your Anthony Spencer hate. Y'all are becoming so personally and emotionally invested in getting rid of the guy that it is going to cause you all to be angry if he resigned. And then as the season goes on, you'll be all butthurt and whine at everything Spencer does that is not elite. It is toxic how much some of you become so emotionally invested in personnel decisions.

Whatever the Cowboys do, whether I agree with it or not, does not affect my being a fan of the team.

Most who do not want Spencer here feel that way because they do not think it is best for the team. That's all.

Now, I do think some of the arguments used against him are exaggerations, but I also think when your defense doesn't get the job done, then you look for opportunities to make changes to your defense.

Spencer being a FA is an opportunity to give somebody else a shot at making this defense better than it has been the past two seasons. I don't think Spencer is a bad player, but I don't think he's good enough.

Bringing back Spencer is just sticking with the same-old, same-old and hoping for better results. That's not the way you improve.

 

[Wood]

back to original question. I think Spencer value is 4th round pick.

 

[Blue Eyed Devil]

I think he's worth about $4 million a year. 4 years $20 million that's a bit back-loaded would be a sufficient salary.

The fact he's going to pull in at least 5 years $35 million means you have to let the man walk.

 

[honyock]

I think he's worth about $4 million a year. 4 years $20 million that's a bit back-loaded would be a sufficient salary.

The fact he's going to pull in at least 5 years $35 million means you have to let the man walk.

I'd guess that if they sign him, he'll sign for something like 5 years $35 million, but with only probably $15-18 million guaranteed. So they'd end up paying 5-6 million a year for three years, with the last two years being window dressing to fluff up his and his agent's ego.

As the great Spencer/Brooks/Wimbley/draft pick debate roars on, I've decided to stop having opinions on what they should do with him. Thinking about What-To-Do-With-Anthony too much makes my head hurt.

 

[durrrr]

I'd guess that if they sign him, he'll sign for something like 5 years $35 million, but with only probably $15-18 million guaranteed. So they'd end up paying 5-6 million a year for three years, with the last two years being window dressing to fluff up his and his agent's ego.

As the great Spencer/Brooks/Wimbley/draft pick debate roars on, I've decided to stop having opinions on what they should do with him. Thinking about What-To-Do-With-Anthony too much makes my head hurt.

especially since there's really no good answer