Anticipate Tyron Smith & Dez Bryant's next contract

[Cowboy Brian]

Figured this would be a fun exercise.

Given Tyron's development, temperament, positional importance, and age (he'll be 23 through next season) - I'm willing to go above and beyond, signing him to a very long-term deal with a ton of money. He came into the league, instantly becoming obscenely rich about only 4 months after he turned 20 (he was born in December), he seamlessly made this transition without hiccup or headache, so I'm comfortable making a huge commitment. 8 years, 100m, 40m guaranteed - not highly back-loaded, more of a J.Allen-Vikings deal where you structure it with the expectation he will live out the contract.

In the case of Dez, I'm completely on board with a long-term contract however I'm definitely not going to propose a 8 year contact as I have with Tyron. Much like Tyron, Dez has shown immense development, tremendous potential, and is already top 5 (arguably top 3, which I agree with) at his position. However, he does have much more red flags than Tyron, with a track record of off-the-field issues, additionally he is older (2 yrs), has had a few health concerns, and WR is a much less important position. So I'd propose 5 years, 70m, 30m guaranteed. This would be the second highest guarantee for a WR in the league, behind only Calvin Johnson. Salary-wise, it'd be 14m per-year, which would put Dez at 3rd, behind only Calvin Johnson and Larry Fitzgerald. This would be a bit of a discount on what he'd anticipate on the open market, but it could definitely be worked out given the fact he'd only be 30 years old when this contract would end, affording him the opportunity to land a second big-money contract.


Thoughts?

 

[Wood]

I think we discussed this yesterday. But my thoughts are to get Dez deal done first. I would only extend him if he agrees to continue rules set for him by team (there are many). Then move onto Smith but there is no rush because Dallas has him for 2 more years.

Also, I think your Smith contract number look about right. Have no idea on Dez yet.. would like to see him take over few games like CJ does.

 

[Setackin]

Just as long as they dont back load the contracts... so sick of restructuring...

 

[Cowboy Brian]

I think we discussed this yesterday. But my thoughts are to get Dez deal done first. I would only extend him if he agrees to continue rules set for him by team (there are many). Then move onto Smith but there is no rush because Dallas has him for 2 more years.

Also, I think your Smith contract number look about right. Have no idea on Dez yet.. would like to see him take over few games like CJ does.

Very true. In 2 years he'll still only be 25 so an 8 year extension still makes sense for the team, and makes even more sense for him.

 

[Galian Beast]

Overpay today, underpay tomorrow. Just don't pay anyone well into their 30s... Makes sense to lock Smith in for 8 years. It also might make sense for the team to take a 5th year option on him.

Dez Bryant is 25. He'll turn 26 in November. You sign him to a 7 year extension (contract starting in 2015) he would be 34 by the end of the contact. That is essentially close to the end of his career. So a 5-7 year extension plays out fairly well, but you want to go longer than shorter.

That being said, I still think it makes most sense to trade him. Don't believe in paying a WR 14+ million a year.

 

[Galian Beast]

Very true. In 2 years he'll still only be 25 so an 8 year extension still makes sense for the team, and makes even more sense for him.

If I'm Smith I wouldn't sign an 8 year deal, I'd want to sign a 5 year deal, and then cash in on the much higher contracts being given out in 5 years...

 

[Bowdown27]

I think dez gives a discount. 7 year 60 million. 35 Guaranteed. It's a discount considering this crazy league now lol.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You are pulling numbers out of your backside.

The franchise tag for Tyron and Dez are $10m and $12m respectively.

The largest guarantee for a LT was Joe Thomas' $28.5m on a 7 year $80.5m $11.5m AAV deal. You want to give Tyron a 25% bigger total and guarantee 75% more?

The Dez overall amount makes more sense cause you actually used other contracts as a baseline but to guarantee all that and only have a 5 year commitment doesn't make a lot of sense.

 

[ConstantReboot]

Figured this would be a fun exercise.

Given Tyron's development, temperament, positional importance, and age (he'll be 23 through next season) - I'm willing to go above and beyond, signing him to a very long-term deal with a ton of money. He came into the league, instantly becoming obscenely rich about only 4 months after he turned 20 (he was born in December), he seamlessly made this transition without hiccup or headache, so I'm comfortable making a huge commitment. 8 years, 100m, 40m guaranteed - not highly back-loaded, more of a J.Allen-Vikings deal where you structure it with the expectation he will live out the contract.

In the case of Dez, I'm completely on board with a long-term contract however I'm definitely not going to propose a 8 year contact as I have with Tyron. Much like Tyron, Dez has shown immense development, tremendous potential, and is already top 5 (arguably top 3, which I agree with) at his position. However, he does have much more red flags than Tyron, with a track record of off-the-field issues, additionally he is older (2 yrs), has had a few health concerns, and WR is a much less important position. So I'd propose 5 years, 70m, 30m guaranteed. This would be the second highest guarantee for a WR in the league, behind only Calvin Johnson. Salary-wise, it'd be 14m per-year, which would put Dez at 3rd, behind only Calvin Johnson and Larry Fitzgerald. This would be a bit of a discount on what he'd anticipate on the open market, but it could definitely be worked out given the fact he'd only be 30 years old when this contract would end, affording him the opportunity to land a second big-money contract.


Thoughts?

Your overpaying these guys just like Jerry overpays his players.

Dez Bryant although I like him is not worth that much. Unless he puts up numbers like Megatron, I would not give him that contract.

 

[Cowboy Brian]

You are pulling numbers out of your backside.

The franchise tag for Tyron and Dez are $10m and $12m respectively.

The largest guarantee for a LT was Joe Thomas' $28.5m on a 7 year $80.5m $11.5m AAV deal. You want to give Tyron a 25% bigger total and guarantee 75% more?

The Dez overall amount makes more sense cause you actually used other contracts as a baseline but to guarantee all that and only have a 5 year commitment doesn't make a lot of sense.

For Tyron I'm paying a premium to lock him up for 8 years. He'll be the highest paid LT in the league regardless.

 

[AKATheRake]

Dez Bryant will be getting a $90 - $100 million contract over 7 years.

He's going to expect a $100 million contract and to pay him that would require a 7 year deal.

When you're talking about a young elite player on your team that is considered a cornerstone of your franchise, you're talking about that players whole career playing out for your organization.

Yes # 94 is the exception to what used to be that expectation but look at Romo and Witten.

The later years are back loaded on these contracts and that's why eventually aging stars get let go in their later years.

Emmit Smith, Larry Allen, Flozell Adams and Demarcus Ware. They're all always going to be Cowboys.

 

[Galian Beast]

I think dez gives a discount. 7 year 60 million. 35 Guaranteed. It's a discount considering this crazy league now lol.

8.5 million per year? You could guarantee the entire contract and there is no way he would sign that...

 

[Risen Star]

These numbers are giving me heartburn.

 

[Alexander]

Dez Bryant will be getting a $90 - $100 million contract over 7 years.

He's going to expect a $100 million contract and to pay him that would require a 7 year deal.

When you're talking about a young elite player on your team that is considered a cornerstone of your franchise, you're talking about that players whole career playing out for your organization.

Yes # 94 is the exception to what used to be that expectation but look at Romo and Witten.

The later years are back loaded on these contracts and that's why eventually aging stars get let go in their later years.

Emmit Smith, Larry Allen, Flozell Adams and Demarcus Ware. They're all always going to be Cowboys.

Serious question, what WR in today's game gets a lifetime contract?

Is he going to be as stable as Fitzgerald and Andre Johnson? Because he is going to get more money than them.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Very true. In 2 years he'll still only be 25 so an 8 year extension still makes sense for the team, and makes even more sense for him.

8 year contract? Never happen.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

These numbers are giving me heartburn.

Crazy money for sure.

Of course there is no way we keep those two without the numbers being crazy like that.

 

[Risen Star]

8 year contract? Never happen.

If I was Tyron I would want to enter UFA at 30 instead of 33. I wouldn't have much interest in an 8 year deal.

 

[theSHOW]

Dez Bryant will be getting a $90 - $100 million contract over 7 years.

He's going to expect a $100 million contract and to pay him that would require a 7 year deal.

When you're talking about a young elite player on your team that is considered a cornerstone of your franchise, you're talking about that players whole career playing out for your organization.

Yes # 94 is the exception to what used to be that expectation but look at Romo and Witten.

The later years are back loaded on these contracts and that's why eventually aging stars get let go in their later years.

Emmit Smith, Larry Allen, Flozell Adams and Demarcus Ware. They're all always going to be Cowboys.

paying DB 90 million on 7 years would disable the team. Seven years? You trust him a year at a time or better yet trade him asap if you want a championship.

 

[Alexander]

Crazy money for sure.

Of course there is no way we keep those two without the numbers being crazy like that.

It is going to have to be timed with a cheap QB if that is the plan.

 

[AKATheRake]

Serious question, what WR in today's game gets a lifetime contract?

Is he going to be as stable as Fitzgerald and Andre Johnson? Because he is going to get more money than them.

Well Fitzgerald allegedly did head butt the mother of his child so he had some off field problems also but I understand what you're getting at.

Playing at an elite level 5 years into a long term deal like that.

I'm sure Dez can. This doesn't mean I'm happy with the numbers but that's what a young elite player at his position is going to command here or on the open market.

Dez is also playing in the elite era after Fitzgerald and Johnson where the cap is higher and the contracts are growing in size now and in the future.

It is what it is to keep your drafted young elite players in today's league.