Antonio Bryant...

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Oh_Canada said:
Parcells can do no wrong in some people's eyes.

Quincy Morgan is half the player Antonio is, but unfortunatley we never got the chance to see it, because Bill was too interested in playing his loyal retread has-beens instead of the young brash kid with talent spilling out of him but who he never drafted.

Talent wasn't the only thing spilling out of him. He was a bad influence and couldn't be trusted, especially if not coming out of the game when it was his turn.

I don't care how talented you are. You can't sabotage your team like that.

That simply cannot be tolerated. Sorry, but he had too many incidents like that.

I'm glad he's gone.
 

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Funny...they said alot of the same things about Corey Dillon.

Difference is, Belichek understandS you do need some talent to win in today's NFL. Our coach is more interested in proving a point.

Bryant should have been starting over KJ.
 

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Talent wasn't the only thing spilling out of him. He was a bad influence and couldn't be trusted, especially if not coming out of the game when it was his turn.

I don't care how talented you are. You can't sabotage your team like that.

That simply cannot be tolerated. Sorry, but he had too many incidents like that.

I'm glad he's gone.

I can appreciate someone saying that he had to be let go because he was a headcase but he wasn't traded because he wasn't playing well. Dropped passes and poor routes just sounds like a lot of tabloid rationalization to justify his loss. I just wish more fans were honest and simply stated the obvious, the guy was good but he was a headcase.
 

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Nice. An Antonio sighting. It happens. Everyone got open up there in Cincy today.
 

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BostonCowboy said:
and yet another 200 yard rusher.... again.

Dave campo defenses are used to very bad performances. I think his defenses have cornered the market on 200 yard performances.

Campo must have been reading the press clippings, preparing to take over as the interim head coach instead of game planning for Cincy. ;)
 

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Rumor has it they were wearing flags around their waists in that game today. A backup tight end had three scores.

That should speak volumes.
 

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mr.jameswoods said:
Antonio Bryant was a hothead not inconsistent. He was the third receiver here. He never got a chance to start because of Keyshawn and Terry. I'm not saying he was great but realistically was the guy ever afforded a starting role and enough time? Parcells didn't start him due to his inability to start but because of his lack of maturity. Every time I saw the guy play, he seemed to play pretty well.
I don't think any of us can say that one team got the benefit over the other at this point. I haven't seen anything from Quincy Morgan to go wow if you know what I mean.


Did you see Anotonio play last year??? He sucked last year. Plain and simple.
 

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AB played a heck of a game today. I always liked the kids abilities and hope he can mature into a levelheaded young man. He's no longer a Cowboy but I wish him luck in his career and much success, as long as he's not playing against the 'Boys.
 

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BP and his ratpack aren't here, and this guy is starting for the Cowboys today.

He got scr*wed when Terry was brought in and then again this year when Key was brought in.

BP only claimed to have likeness for this kid to simply divert the obvious that was already underway...the slow deposit of over the hill types onto this team.

He showed flashes his entire career here in Dallas--flashes that could have been confirmed with the rightful starting spot he deserved.

Get ready for round 2--The slow but ever so obvious dismissal of Henson--another fan favorite for one of "bills guys". This year it's Vinny, next year, Bledsoe.
 

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mr.jameswoods said:
I can appreciate someone saying that he had to be let go because he was a headcase but he wasn't traded because he wasn't playing well. Dropped passes and poor routes just sounds like a lot of tabloid rationalization to justify his loss. I just wish more fans were honest and simply stated the obvious, the guy was good but he was a headcase.

That's kind of hard to say when Keyshawn was just brought in. Or when he's with Bill isn't he considered the King Headcase anymore? :D

Ah the exceptions that Bill's players get that Cowboy homebreds don't...
 

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BUSDRIV3RDH said:
That's kind of hard to say when Keyshawn was just brought in. Or when he's with Bill isn't he considered the King Headcase anymore? :D

Ah the exceptions that Bill's players get that Cowboy homebreds don't...

The better question you should ask is why was Bryant considered a head case? Was it because he was frustrated by people like Keyshawn being brought in to start and him still be relegated to back up duty?

I'm actually agree with you.
 

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mr.jameswoods said:
The better question you should ask is why was Bryant considered a head case? Was it because he was frustrated by people like Keyshawn being brought in to start and him still be relegated to back up duty?

I'm actually agree with you.

Oh I've asked myself that exact question before and I think that is a high possibilty.

First it started with the benching of Quincy and being ignored by Hutch for the most part of the last half of that season after an amazing first half of his rookie year...Followed by Terry coming in and swooping his well deserved starting spot out of his hands...followed by Key being brought in when again AB should have had that vacant Galloway spot left open.

Who wouldn't have issue's with that?
 

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Oh_Canada said:
Funny...they said alot of the same things about Corey Dillon.

Difference is, Belichek understandS you do need some talent to win in today's NFL. Our coach is more interested in proving a point.

Bryant should have been starting over KJ.


Are you comparing Dillion with Bryant? :confused:

Dillion was a veteran who had labored for years in Cincinnati and got no help from management in terms of supplementing the team's talent. Dillion started to produce from Day 1 and was never a malcontent. He only became a malcontent because the Bengals were perennial losers.

Bryant had yet to get his feet wet. He dropped balls (how some posters can say they didn't realize he had the droppies is beyond me because even Stevie Wonder could see he lacked concentration last year), he had temper tantrums, he flung a jersey in the coach's face. But that all pales compared to him REFUSING to remove himself from a game because his ego became better than the game.

Corey's dissatisfaction was "earned." What the HECK did Bryant "earn" to the point where he thought he should have commanded a starting role and then "buck" authority when he didn't get his way?

Yes, Corey's situation was similar to AB's. :rolleyes:
 

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mr.jameswoods said:
I can appreciate someone saying that he had to be let go because he was a headcase but he wasn't traded because he wasn't playing well. Dropped passes and poor routes just sounds like a lot of tabloid rationalization to justify his loss. I just wish more fans were honest and simply stated the obvious, the guy was good but he was a headcase.

First of all, he DID drop passes and run poor routes last year.
As for this year, maybe he had improved but coupled with

He was a headcase AND he couldn't be relied on. Sorry, but you just don't refuse to come out of a play and cost your team a penalty.

And if you call that "tabloid" then maybe you'll also admit that you may not know as much about AB's situation on the team either. If it were just a matter of him being a headcase, then being a headcase had to impact his production on the field for them to release him. A team will keep a headcase if that headcase contributes to the team.

Apparently, AB didn't do that. Thus, he was let go.

I was pulling for him too. But I'm glad he's gone.
 

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BUSDRIV3RDH said:
Oh I've asked myself that exact question before and I think that is a high possibilty.

First it started with the benching of Quincy and being ignored by Hutch for the most part of the last half of that season after an amazing first half of his rookie year...Followed by Terry coming in and swooping his well deserved starting spot out of his hands...followed by Key being brought in when again AB should have had that vacant Galloway spot left open.

Who wouldn't have issue's with that?

Good Post but you have to admit, he was a hothead to begin with but I can see how anyone would have gotten upset being in that situation.
 

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James Woods, you and I agree on AB. He is a heck of a player, talent or whatever you want to call him. Everytime he played this season he made plays. Last season he dropped balls, but so did every receiver we had, the starters dropped more balls than AB.

Morgan is no where near AB, he catches one ball and then he disappears, Copper does and catches more balls than Morgan, If they let Crayton play he'll pass Morgan too.

someone posted that about AB's route running? Man that kid twists and turns CBs inside out, when he runs his routes.
Now what they were saying is that they wanted him to stay in his area and not freelance, but if you QB is back there still holding the ball looking and looking, after he has already passed his 1st and 2nd options, then somebody needs to make something happen for the QB, (because the QB, is the most needy position on the field) The QB cannot do anything by himself he always needs help, from every position even on defense.

I understand what AB was saying, they wanted him to find an open space and sit there, now if you do that it makes it easier for the defeense to cover you, especially if your QB is still holding the ball.

AB, is a gamer and he will do a lot for the Browns now that he is starting.
 
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