Any chance Crawford moves outside?

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I know no one here likes to talk about it, but right now with Gregory looking like he will be suspended for at least the first 10 games (or will they add it to make a 14 game suspension) maybe it's time we start looking for some more talent wherever we can. Crawford has proven to be a capable pass rusher (5 sacks last year, on the inside, while playing hurt) and has some experience outside. Beyond that, the Cowboys seem to have more talent inside at this point, and probably could pick up an extra guy easier than at DE. So do you think there is any chance we see Crawford outside, possibly with D-Law moving across when he gets back.
 

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I hope not. He's doesn't seem to have the bend or speed to get around the edges or work in space. He's a high motor guy that hand fights like crazy and, like Broaddus once remarked, has a knack for making himself narrow to fit in between the interior gaps and thus have the most direct path to the QB. He doesn't have a lot of sacks, but he has to be up there with "almost Anthony" as a player that's always breathing on the neck of the QB. His impact, currently, can't be measured by stats. Hopefully, he puts it all together for one season (health and experience at one position) and gains that extra yard he needs to start burying QBs.
 

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No. He would barely be capable of playing DE in a 3-4, much less a 4-3.
 

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Looks to me like Tapper, Mayowa and/or perhaps Irving will get an opportunity to show their wares at DE if Gregory is out most of the season.

Oops, let's not forget about Russell, either. You never know when one of our youngsters might bloom at the right time when needed the most.
 
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No I think he's too slow fo that. The middle will be OK but the outside is bunk again.
 

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We have Crawford, Mayowa, Tapper, Russell, and camp bodies plus DLaw. I would expect Irving to switch before the starting 3T.
 

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Marinelli referred to Crawford as his ace in the hole on the outside just last week, so yes it's a possibility. I don't think they want to do it though if they don't have to. And they probably won't have to.
 

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Too slow for outside

Actually, he's very well-suited (physically) for the left side in RM's scheme. He doesn't have the speed to play RDE! But he'd be fine n the left side. Would I move him out there? It really depends upon how well our other 3-Tech's play. Once Collins comes back, if he can be a formidable 3-tech, there's no reason not to try Crawford at the end. If that's what it takes to get the best four n the field together, why not?
 

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Actually, he's very well-suited (physically) for the left side in RM's scheme. He doesn't have the speed to play RDE! But he'd be fine n the left side. Would I move him out there? It really depends upon how well our other 3-Tech's play. Once Collins comes back, if he can be a formidable 3-tech, there's no reason not to try Crawford at the end. If that's what it takes to get the best four n the field together, why not?

So you believe that Collins can be a "formidable 3-tech" "once he comes back" as a rookie after missing most of training camp?
 

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Crwaford doesn't want to move outside, and I agree with him. You don't 'fix' one position on the line by screwing up another. He's found his most productive position in the field, and the team has paid him handsomely to play there. Moving him to another position - where's he's shown to not be productive - would be a mistake.
 

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I think they go with their current plan going into TC as well as the season. From 4 games to 10, should not change their plans. They still need to see who steps up at DE for those 1st 4 games anyway. And if they feel good with what line up / rotation they go with. Maybe it will be good enough to tell Gregory when he returns, you are not starting. you are a back up.

They should reduce Gregory, as well as McClain's reps in TC. Let the sober ones play.
DLaw at 4 games gets his reps, but still reduced somewhat.
 

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No, moving him outside would neutralize any effectiveness the Cowboys might have rushing from the interior. He needs to stay inside.

Crawford is a natural 3-tech and it's his best position. Why weaken what you have. Russell, Mayowa, Irving & Tapper will man the DE until Lawrence
gets back, if he does. This is what we have and this is what we are going to have until after week 1 and probably week 4.
 

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I think Game 1 starts like this

Irving at the 5
Thornton at the 1
Crawford at the 3
Russell at the 7

The other crawford could beat out Irving.
Tapper, Russell and Mayo will have a nice camp battle for the 7 spot.
 

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I know no one here likes to talk about it, but right now with Gregory looking like he will be suspended for at least the first 10 games (or will they add it to make a 14 game suspension) maybe it's time we start looking for some more talent wherever we can. Crawford has proven to be a capable pass rusher (5 sacks last year, on the inside, while playing hurt) and has some experience outside. Beyond that, the Cowboys seem to have more talent inside at this point, and probably could pick up an extra guy easier than at DE. So do you think there is any chance we see Crawford outside, possibly with D-Law moving across when he gets back.

Its time to just accept the fact that the Dline is what it is. You cant manufacture talent that isnt there by hoping. Crawford outside would just leave more of a glaring whole inside. And the guy already expressed he doesnt want to do it.

I tried to temper the enthusiasm of some on here during the off season. And trust me, more bad news will be coming in the form of injuries. Im pretty sure everyone that could get suspended has. Unless Zeke comes up guilty. But injuries will happen in training camp, they always do.
 

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I think believe it or not our pass rush will improve this year. It will not be from a speed rush on the outside but rather the inside collapsing the pocket with Thornton, a healthy Crawford, a healthy McLean, and eventually Collins. This will hopefully flush the QB into the waiting arms of less than stellar DEs. Coverage should also improve with the addition of Scandrick, Mo and Carr in contract years, and Jones moving permanently into FS. I am actually cautiously optimistic. I also want to believe that one of Russell, Mayowa, Irvin, or Tapper will surprise and step right in for Gregory.
 

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I think believe it or not our pass rush will improve this year. It will not be from a speed rush on the outside but rather the inside collapsing the pocket with Thornton, a healthy Crawford, a healthy McLean, and eventually Collins. This will hopefully flush the QB into the waiting arms of less than stellar DEs. Coverage should also improve with the addition of Scandrick, Mo and Carr in contract years, and Jones moving permanently into FS. I am actually cautiously optimistic. I also want to believe that one of Russell, Mayowa, Irvin, or Tapper will surprise and step right in for Gregory.

Gregory didn't prove anything last year and he's not likely to get on the field this year either. Lawrence started to show last year and now he's in trouble too. We have to hope (HOPE)
that Marinelli has some tricks up his sleave and one of these young guys takes the bit. Otherwise, we better hope that the Offense stays on the field 50 minutes of every game we play.
 

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So you believe that Collins can be a "formidable 3-tech" "once he comes back" as a rookie after missing most of training camp?

That's not what I said.

It's a matter of getting our best four on the field. IF the combo of Collins a the 3 and TC at LDE is better than the combo of TC at the 3 and anyone else at LDE, then go for it. I don't expect that to happen, but Crawford can play the LDE well enough to make it a consideration.

As for Collins, I have no idea what he'll be.

Neither do you.
 
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