Any living soul believe Dak is a good QB after that dump?

[Captain-Crash]

any update on those fingers dak lost in that game. I think I saw the med team taping up his whole hand and part of his wrist. He toughed it out staying out there throwing with a nub for a right hand.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

It's been proven that teams in today's NFL have a better chance of winning a Superbowl with the QB on s rookie deal. After getting "paid" guys like Russell Wilson and others never made it back.

There is no way signing Dak to a massive contract made sense if your goal was to win a Superbowl. I argue not even Mahomes may be worth it

that's not really true. and there is a rub

2022 - KC with Mahomes, he is not on rookie contract.
2021- Rams with Stafford, a 12 year veteran
2020- Tamp with Brady, a 20 year veteran
2019 - KC with Mahomes on Rookie contract
2018- New England - with Brady
2017- Philly with a veteran back up
2016 - New england with brady
2015 - Denver with Manning

so the winning teams have had veteran QB, except one, but that's Mahomes a generational talent. doesn't fall off a tree often. same with Brady, a generational talent.

but participants
2022 - Philly with Hurts on Rookie Contract
2021- Cinci with Burrows on a rooke contract
2020- KC with Mahomes not rookie contract
2019 - SF with Grapolo, not on rookie contract
2018- Rams with - with Goff on rookie contract
2017- NE with brady
2016 - Atlanta with Ryan not on rookie contract
2015 - Carolina with Newton not on rookie contract

so only past two year there has been two QBs on rookie contract, but going back 7 years, its less than half.

now, do we want to claim victory and say the past two year and that's a trend. we will see.

and with that said, the key thing above is that you have a heck of a better chance of winning with an elite QBs. and there is only about 2, or 3 at most in the league. subsequently, more QBs fail than succeed. its a bit of a gamble to go QB shopping every few years, that's why teams tend to hold on to their good QBs. as evident, then you have to be able to build a good team around them and provide strong support to have a chance, ala philly, SF, Rams, Atlanta, etc.

 

[IceStar-D7]

Dak looks bad, and his feeble arm is certainly minimizing the playbook.

Also, the play design has been bad, easy to cover, and easy to predict with a little bit of film prep. So, oftentimes, nobody is open. Certainly we don't want Dak throwing interceptions, but we'd also be mad if Dak ended the game with 10+ sacks ("he's holding the ball too long!").

So, Dak is bad, McCarthy is bad, and the receivers aren't getting open (and sometimes just jog through their routes if they're not the primary).

Oh, and the o-line often cracks too, and they can't stay healthy.

So, it's the recipe for an 8-9, miss the playoffs season.

They better fix this, or it's time to simply clean house.

Welcome back the functioning of the Jason Garrett type teams. We need a guy like Mike Tomlin in here. And keep the Crypt keeper upstairs. That's the only way to turn this thing around....

 

[America's Cowboy]

Lol..enough said. Senile guy makes an appearance

Go play your Madden. That's the closest you've ever gotten to football.

 

[kskboys]

I'm not missing it. The first line I said was "Dak was terrible".

But the bottom line is the Cowboys' much hyped defense was beaten down right from the start. They were down 7-0 before Dak even took a snap. And if anyone thinks the Cowboys still would have won EVEN IF Dak played well they are delusional. Maybe it would have been a 42-30 defeat instead of 42-10, but a defeat nonetheless.

3 consecutive 3 and outs were just as bad or worse. Both sucked. If Dak starts answering drive for drive, yes, there's a good chance our D would've started playing better. It's delusional to think otherwise!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Catpappy]

any update on those fingers dak lost in that game. I think I saw the med team taping up his whole hand and part of his wrist. He toughed it out staying out there throwing with a nub for a right hand.

He’ll need hang nail surgery

 

[triplets_93]

Dak is a lot of Good things.....
But a Top Tier QB, he is not.Regardless of what stats make you excited....
To Tier QBs are not inconsistent as Dak is.

You can blame Dak's inconsistent performance on a 1,000 different things.

But the Problem is squarely on Dak's shoulders.
Any Top Tier QB playing with what Dak has had around him. would most assuredly have done better.

These are facts of the case, and they are indisputble.

 

[plasticman]

How many horrific games by Hall of Fame quarterbacks would you like me to download?

A single game, good or bad, does not define a career.

The fact that fans and media are so shocked by this performance is proof that it is not a typical showing.

 

[diamonddelts]

Romo kept growing as a qb

Into a bigger choker.

 

[diamonddelts]

Even great quarterbacks have bad games but what is more important is how he plays in the next one. Does he crumble once again or does he step up and lead the team?

Next game means nothing. He has the Romo gene where he crumbles in the BIG games. There lies the issue.

 

[plasticman]

Dak had a passer rating of 51.6.

There has been 319 times since 1970 in which a Hall of Fame quarterback had a game with a worse rating, minimum 15 pass attempts.

Peyton Manning had a worse rating 11 times in his career, Joe Montana 10 times, Dan Marino 14 times and the list goes on.

HOFer Terry Bradshaw once had a game with a 14.2 rating. He completed 40% of his passes and threw 4 INT's. However, the Steelers still won, 7-6. They won because the defense stood up for their offense and held the opponent to 6 points. That is what a great team does. When one part of the team is in trouble, the other guys step up.

Who stepped up when Dak was struggling? Every quarterback has those days, I showed you the proof.

If Dak's last 4-5 games had multiple INT's then I would be more concerned. However, when 3 INT's are the exception five games into a season, I can afford to evaluate the situation over the next 2-3 games and see where things trend.

There are too many issues to be satisfied with the generic explanation that it's all about the quarterback. On an average scale, the entire defense spends the same time on the field as the quarterback.

In 1970 the Cowboys were in a must situation because it was the playoffs. The QB, Craig Morton, was horrific. He completed 4 of 18 passes. The Cowbosy were only able to score 5 points. And they won! Not only did the defense shut out the opponent, they scored 2 of the 5 points. Again, that's what great defenses do.

Very few remember that Tom Brady threw three consecutive INT's late in the NFC championship game in 2020. Why? His team won because they had a defense that stepped up. Even the GOAT needs help sometimes. Where was Dak's help?

 

[Beast_from_East]

Right. … and can’t dominate greater teams. Too bad we don’t have more 1-3 teams on the schedule.

My disappointment from last night is SF has widened the gap from last year. We are even further away.

That is the real issue my friend, the gap between us and SF.

The team, and even Jerry, led the fans to believe that the gap between SF and us had closed and that we could "stay on the field" with them as Jerry even stated.

Well, Jerry just broke rule #1 they teach you in any public relations class at any university..............Never over promise and under deliver!!!!

The fans were led to believe this team was just as good as the 49ers and Sunday night was like a giant kick to the nuts. The fans feel they were lied to, they were misled, and that the gap has not closed but has gotten monumentally wider...........................Jerry cant sell hope to a dejected fan base, this is a very bad spot for Jerry to be in.

 

[CowboyoWales]

that's not really true. and there is a rub

2022 - KC with Mahomes, he is not on rookie contract.
2021- Rams with Stafford, a 12 year veteran
2020- Tamp with Brady, a 20 year veteran
2019 - KC with Mahomes on Rookie contract
2018- New England - with Brady
2017- Philly with a veteran back up
2016 - New england with brady
2015 - Denver with Manning

so the winning teams have had veteran QB, except one, but that's Mahomes a generational talent. doesn't fall off a tree often. same with Brady, a generational talent.

but participants
2022 - Philly with Hurts on Rookie Contract
2021- Cinci with Burrows on a rooke contract
2020- KC with Mahomes not rookie contract
2019 - SF with Grapolo, not on rookie contract
2018- Rams with - with Goff on rookie contract
2017- NE with brady
2016 - Atlanta with Ryan not on rookie contract
2015 - Carolina with Newton not on rookie contract

so only past two year there has been two QBs on rookie contract, but going back 7 years, its less than half.

now, do we want to claim victory and say the past two year and that's a trend. we will see.

and with that said, the key thing above is that you have a heck of a better chance of winning with an elite QBs. and there is only about 2, or 3 at most in the league. subsequently, more QBs fail than succeed. its a bit of a gamble to go QB shopping every few years, that's why teams tend to hold on to their good QBs. as evident, then you have to be able to build a good team around them and provide strong support to have a chance, ala philly, SF, Rams, Atlanta, etc.

Hang on, SB!! Dak hasnt got to a Championship game yet (nor two consecutive play-off wins).

Yep, whilst it's incorrect to use the term 'Rookie Contract', none of those QB's (other than Mahomes (17%) 2022/23) was taking up over 15% of the CAP.

Teams build around the early competitive years of a QB contract (eg Brady, Stafford above) , unfortunately, we wouldnt get that with Dak due to the can kicking ($62m in owed bonus payments and $34m in 2024 salary).

You're right about elite QB, but if you havent got one then paying an aging veteran top money just DOESNT WORK. If he had one talent that elevated himself, and the team, it would be something, but he's just too reliant on other factors/weapons.

 

[Captain-Crash]

 

[Bullflop]

I had been a supporter of Dak before this season but it now seems highly probable that he isn't the answer to the Cowboys' ongoing success. I now doubt his performance can promote success in the playoffs, assuming we'll somehow manage to reach that level once again. This team simply isn't what it was in years past. I'm saying this with a heavy heart and strong convictions that we are now facing problems that will be very hard, if not impossible to resolve.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Into a bigger choker.

False narrative guy can't face the real facts and stats.

Romo hurt him emotionally somehow.

I usually spend a few minmutes with "people like you". The stats are easy to find. I'll just put one here:

"The athletes that rise to the occasion and answer these questions are clutch. Romo has 2,418 yards, 17 touchdowns, and eight interceptions in the fourth quarter when the score is within seven points, which ranks him second. Peyton Manning has 2,974 yards, 18 touchdowns, and only five interceptions in the same situation."


Stop lying to yourself about it dude. Unhealthy!

.

 

[Reverend Conehead]

He would make a good CFL backup quarterback.

 

[diamonddelts]

False narrative guy can't face the real facts and stats.

Romo hurt him emotionally somehow.

I usually spend a few minmutes with "people like you". The stats are easy to find. I'll just put one here:

"The athletes that rise to the occasion and answer these questions are clutch. Romo has 2,418 yards, 17 touchdowns, and eight interceptions in the fourth quarter when the score is within seven points, which ranks him second. Peyton Manning has 2,974 yards, 18 touchdowns, and only five interceptions in the same situation."


Stop lying to yourself about it dude. Unhealthy!

.

Regular season stats for bottom feeders. What about the big games in playoffs?

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Regular season stats for bottom feeders. What about the big games in playoffs?

What about them?

How do you think you get into the playoffs? Romo beat GOOD teams. Went toe to toe with best QB's of his day like Peyton's Broncos. How many times do you expect him to try to win the game? The odds are he misses afew...

and when he does you cry like baby "ALL ROMO'S FAULT!"

 

[Kumala808]

It's the scheme of Mac. It sucks