Any Palmer updates?

tx78613 · Jan 25, 2006

Haven't heard whether he's been offered the OC job, still in Dallas, gone. Anybody know?

Bob Sacamano · Jan 25, 2006

he came Tuesday afternoon, and was scheduled to interview today

probably wont find out results 'till later tonight, or tomorrow

jem88 · Jan 25, 2006

I'm certainly not one of those 'sign T.O. and every other high-profile player available' types, but I have to wonder why, when a coach with the offensive pedigree of Mike Martz is available, we're not making an effort to get him. It doesn't look like as if he's going to get a head coaching offer (please correct me if I'm wrong there), so it's pretty easy to imagine him coordinating someone's offence next year. As a head coach, I think he was a bit of a clown, but his offensive track record is superb, and he's achieved a lot of it with strong-armed QB who aren't necessarily that mobile (something we look to have for the next few years.)

ABQCOWBOY · Jan 25, 2006

Martz is a great OC but his offensive philosophy doesn't fit Parcells style of play. It's not ball control. It's vertical pressure all over the field. Quick strike is great but it's also tough to control clock when your TDs are contigent on the down field passing game.

noshame · Jan 25, 2006

Martz is a great OC but his offensive philosophy doesn't fit Parcells style of play

True, true, it involves scoring lots of points

Bob Sacamano · Jan 25, 2006

noshame said:
Martz is a great OC but his offensive philosophy doesn't fit Parcells style of play

True, true, it involves scoring lots of points

and abandoning the run

TwentyOne · Jan 25, 2006

noshame said:
Martz is a great OC but his offensive philosophy doesn't fit Parcells style of play

True, true, it involves scoring lots of points

Guys you all just don't get it. Scoring TDs on every drive doesn't win you games. Controlling the clock does

AbeBeta · Jan 25, 2006

summerisfunner said:
and abandoning the run

and making crazy calls like deep balls on 4th and 1.

montgod · Jan 25, 2006

jem88 said:
I'm certainly not one of those 'sign T.O. and every other high-profile player available' types, but I have to wonder why, when a coach with the offensive pedigree of Mike Martz is available, we're not making an effort to get him. It doesn't look like as if he's going to get a head coaching offer (please correct me if I'm wrong there), so it's pretty easy to imagine him coordinating someone's offence next year. As a head coach, I think he was a bit of a clown, but his offensive track record is superb, and he's achieved a lot of it with strong-armed QB who aren't necessarily that mobile (something we look to have for the next few years.)

And in addition to what everyone else stated in regards to Martz, I believe it would set the Boys back a lot since they would have to learn a whole new offense again. Yes, he is a good offensive mind, but wouldn't be a good fit at this time if the Boys are trying to make a SuperBowl run next year imo.

conner01 · Jan 25, 2006

drew would be dead by game 3.that was one of the problems in st loius. qb's can't survive in his system and he does'nt use a t.e. so witten becomes illrelavant. martz's system worked for a few years till dc's figured it out, now all it does is get your qb killed

CanadianCowboysFan · Jan 25, 2006

Our WRs don't fall to the ground the minute they catch the ball unlike Holt and Bruce so Mutz is not a good choice.

Anyway, he has a heart problem, do you want to see him die on the sideline?

InmanRoshi · Jan 25, 2006

noshame said:
True, true, it involves scoring lots of points

And tons of turnovers. St. Louis has led the league in total turnover giveaways the past 3 years. Which means losing lots of games (and then everyone wonders what they would be like "if they only had a defense").

Arena Football should start up in a few weeks. That should satiate some people's need for "aggressive playcalling". But you might want to skip out on the Superbowl.

InmanRoshi · Jan 25, 2006

If Palmer isn't announced by today or tommorrow morning, I look for him to join the Jets. Parcells knows him and he knows Parcells. I doubt they need much time to go over his resume and detail his personal offensive philosophy and background. This is a "Do you want the job, and if so for how much?" meeting.

AbeBeta · Jan 25, 2006

CanadianCowboysFan said:
Our WRs don't fall to the ground the minute they catch the ball unlike Holt and Bruce so Mutz is not a good choice.

Anyway, he has a heart problem, do you want to see him die on the sideline?

In the booth. He'd be dying in the booth.

Nors · Jan 25, 2006

I believe JJ is out of town. This will get done as fast as is feasable.

Yes!!!!!!!!!

TheHustler · Jan 25, 2006

TwentyOne said:
Guys you all just don't get it. Scoring TDs on every drive doesn't win you games. Controlling the clock does

Actually, if you scored a TD on EVERY drive, you'd be hard pressed to lose.

jem88 · Jan 25, 2006

montgod said:
And in addition to what everyone else stated in regards to Martz, I believe it would set the Boys back a lot since they would have to learn a whole new offense again. Yes, he is a good offensive mind, but wouldn't be a good fit at this time if the Boys are trying to make a SuperBowl run next year imo.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but was he not in his first year on the job the year the Rams won?

I think Martz the coodinator, with a head coach checking his impulsive urges, would be a lot more successful than Martz the head coach.

big dog cowboy · Jan 25, 2006

jem88 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but was he not in his first year on the job the year the Rams won?

I think Martz the coodinator, with a head coach checking his impulsive urges, would be a lot more successful than Martz the head coach.

Followed Vermeil who set the table for him. Giving Martz credit for winning a super bowl is like giving Switzer the same credit.

Maikeru-sama · Jan 25, 2006

big dog cowboy said:
Followed Vermeil who set the table for him. Giving Martz credit for winning a super bowl is like giving Switzer the same credit.

I dont want Mike Martz either. I like some of his schemes but overall he gets too gushy and red with the Passing Game.

With that said, he was the Offensive Coordinator when the Rams won their Super Bowl. No doubt he deserves some praise when talking about the Rams' Super Bowl. He was also calling the plays when the Rams ultimately lost to the Patriots in the Super Bowl.

- Mike G.

Idgit · Jan 25, 2006

jem88 said:
I'm certainly not one of those 'sign T.O. and every other high-profile player available' types, but I have to wonder why, when a coach with the offensive pedigree of Mike Martz is available, we're not making an effort to get him. It doesn't look like as if he's going to get a head coaching offer (please correct me if I'm wrong there), so it's pretty easy to imagine him coordinating someone's offence next year. As a head coach, I think he was a bit of a clown, but his offensive track record is superb, and he's achieved a lot of it with strong-armed QB who aren't necessarily that mobile (something we look to have for the next few years.)

1. He's made it clear he doesn't want and won't take a coordinator job. 2. He's notoriously hard to get along with. I can't *imagine* him working well as second fiddle to Parcells, and 3rd fiddle to Jerry Jones. 3. He does have legitimate health issues. I have no idea if the bacterial infection left lasting damage or leaves him open to a recurring problem of some sort, but there might be good reasons to think he's not medically qualified, either.

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