Any word on Orton or any fines that might be building?

[GimmeTheBall!]

I would like to no.
Last year it was Jay "the Rat" Ratliff. This year it is Orton.

Lazy? Greedy? Pouting? Deranged?
I wonder what his mindset is. And I wonder if any fines are being levied ever day.

 

[jazzcat22]

Fines won't start until the first day of camp.
last I seen, Garrett said he has not tallked to Orton, but had been in contact with his agent.

 

[CCBoy]

Another case where the pocket book overloads the mouth...Rat, and then Orton.

Rat even tried to dirty the waters for Melton coming in, in personal conversations, twice.

 

[Denim Chicken]

Rat even tried to dirty the waters for Melton coming in, in personal conversations, twice.

Could you elaborate on that? It's interesting and I haven't heard it before.

 

[CCBoy]

Before Melton was deciding on a Cowboys possibility, Rat had tweeted him negatively about the Cowboys.

When Melton then was deciding upon whether or not to pursue the Cowboys, Rat again tweeted him negatively about the Cowboys.

Out of a respect, Melton would not divulge further, beyond stating that it was all negative from Rat.

This revealed in an interview of Melton.

 

[xwalker]

I would like to no.
Last year it was Jay "the Rat" Ratliff. This year it is Orton.

Lazy? Greedy? Pouting? Deranged?
I wonder what his mindset is. And I wonder if any fines are being levied ever day.

He was fined 75k for missing the mandatory OTAs. One report indicated that it would be 30k per day for missing TC, but that it would only start after missing the 1st week.

 

[CCBoy]

As another fan, X, I sure appreciate your contributions. I wish you would post more here...

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

This might be one of the more bizarre Cowboy stories. Not entirely about money, me believes. But in the realm of a head case. A severe one.
I am not a psychiatrist but half seen many of them on TV and at this point I would say about the Orton face-off: "Interesting."

I belief Jerra will win this face-off, btw.

 

[lostar2009]

I would like to no.
Last year it was Jay "the Rat" Ratliff. This year it is Orton.

Lazy? Greedy? Pouting? Deranged?
I wonder what his mindset is. And I wonder if any fines are being levied ever day.

I think Orton has had enough of the NFL. He has been bench, starter, bench ,starter for the most of his career. That last int he threw versus the Eagles may have done it for him mentally.

 

[CCBoy]

lostar, that could well be it...and he is just trying to save his bank account.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

I think Orton has had enough of the NFL. He has been bench, starter, bench ,starter for the most of his career. That last int he threw versus the Eagles may have done it for him mentally.

That might be.

But, Mr. Orton, don't make it your team's problem.
We half lots going on aside from guessing what your problem is Mr. Orton, or how to replace you or not.

 

[xwalker]

This might be one of the more bizarre Cowboy stories. Not entirely about money, me believes. But in the realm of a head case. A severe one.
I am not a psychiatrist but half seen many of them on TV and at this point I would say about the Orton face-off: "Interesting."

I belief Jerra will win this face-off, btw.

It seems like there is more to the story than what's been commonly reported.

If he was that concerned about the 3M bonus money that he would have to pay back, then it seems that he would want to stay and get another 3.25M which is his base salary for 2014.

If money is so unimportant that he can turn down the 3.25M, then why is paying back the 3M that significant?

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

It seems like there is more to the story than what's been commonly reported.

If he was that concerned about the 3M bonus money that he would have to pay back, then it seems that he would want to stay and get another 3.25M which is his base salary for 2014.

If money is so unimportant that he can turn down the 3.25M, then why is paying back the 3M that significant?

I'd say his manager/agent half been remiss as well. At the very least he half gotten bad advice and now his future financial security is at stake..

 

[AbeBeta]

Before Melton was deciding on a Cowboys possibility, Rat had tweeted him negatively about the Cowboys.

When Melton then was deciding upon whether or not to pursue the Cowboys, Rat again tweeted him negatively about the Cowboys.

Out of a respect, Melton would not divulge further, beyond stating that it was all negative from Rat.

This revealed in an interview of Melton.

if tweeted, shouldn't that be something someone would have posted?

 

[Verdict]

It seems like there is more to the story than what's been commonly reported.

If he was that concerned about the 3M bonus money that he would have to pay back, then it seems that he would want to stay and get another 3.25M which is his base salary for 2014.

If money is so unimportant that he can turn down the 3.25M, then why is paying back the 3M that significant?

It seems like there is more to the story than what's been commonly reported.

If he was that concerned about the 3M bonus money that he would have to pay back, then it seems that he would want to stay and get another 3.25M which is his base salary for 2014.

If money is so unimportant that he can turn down the 3.25M, then why is paying back the 3M that significant?

Yes, this is a very peculiar situation. This seems to be an emerging trend. If Orton doesn't want to play, really all he has to do is show up and fail to perform and he really has the Cowboys by the "short hairs" so to speak. If we cut him, he gets to keep the signing bonus. If we keep him and he just goes through the motions, he gets to keep the signing bonus AND gets paid his salary, for essentially doing nothing. I don't see how the Cowboys administration wins this one. Moreover, I think you will see this become more of an issue as time goes on, and not just on the Cowboys team.

 

[xwalker]

Yes, this is a very peculiar situation. This seems to be an emerging trend. If Orton doesn't want to play, really all he has to do is show up and fail to perform and he really has the Cowboys by the "short hairs" so to speak. If we cut him, he gets to keep the signing bonus. If we keep him and he just goes through the motions, he gets to keep the signing bonus AND gets paid his salary, for essentially doing nothing. I don't see how the Cowboys administration wins this one. Moreover, I think you will see this become more of an issue as time goes on, and not just on the Cowboys team.

Agree. If his only motivation was to retire, why not just show up and not perform well. It's really difficult to perform up to NFL expectations even in practice. It wouldn't be difficult to just be a little off on all throws. Also, it would help his cause to show up fat and out of shape. They would be forced to cut him and he would get to keep all bonus money with no questions.

If he really wanted to screw them over, he could have waited until after game 1 and then started tanking in practice to the point that it appeared that he didn't have sufficient arm strength to play anymore. Then they would be on the hook for all of his 2014 base salary of 3.25M but would probably have to cut him.

He probably did the Cowboys a favor by not showing up. This allowed them to get Weeden and allowed Weeden to get significant practice time with the 1st team offense.

 

[5Stars]

if tweeted, shouldn't that be something someone would have posted?

There was a tweet or article posted a day or so...I'm not sure how to find it, but it basically said the Melton said that the Rat did not have good things to say about the Cowboys.

 

[xwalker]

There was a tweet or article posted a day or so...I'm not sure how to find it, but it basically said the Melton said that the Rat did not have good things to say about the Cowboys.

It came from a radio interview that he did earlier this week. He said that he would not say specifically what Rat said about the Cowboys, but that it was not good.

 

[AbeBeta]

There was a tweet or article posted a day or so...I'm not sure how to find it, but it basically said the Melton said that the Rat did not have good things to say about the Cowboys.

yeah, i got that. But someone said he tweeted Melton about the team. That would be public, no?

 

[5Stars]

yeah, i got that. But someone said he tweeted Melton about the team. That would be public, no?

Dude, I have no clue how twitter works. Sorry...

I think it was a Melton interview where they asked Melton if he had talked to the Rat about coming to Dallas. I think he said yes, but would not reveal what the Rat said to him out of respect.