Anybody Watch Sound F/X (NFL Network)--Got me thinking about Wade

[THEHEREAFTER]

For anybody who loves "the sounds of the game" this is a great show as players and coaches are miked up. I love to hear the on the field and sideline talk. The coaches the emotion etc.. you get the point..


Anyways.. this week they featured Josh McDaniels and Mike Singletary. Obviously I was interested in seeing McDaniels as he led his Broncos over us. I must say I was quite impressed with his leadership. He went over to his team (specific units) at critical points of the game and got them fired up. He went over to Orton and amongst other things told him, "I don't want to hear 'my bad' make the damn play or something to that effect. You could feel his passion, energy and respect he commands. I can see why their 4-0 start isn't a fluke.

Mike Singletary is an absolute beast on the sidelines. I already knew this and had great respect for him but this piece of the Rams game made me see it even more. He had the perfect balance of tearing down/challenging/and encouraging of Glenn Coffey, Josh Morgan and a lineman in separate exchanges. He takes no **** and accepts no execuses. He is teaching, leading and commanding excellence during the game. It's undeniable and inspiring to watch. I felt like suiting up and hitting someone.

Ok so you know where I'm going. I'm not "jocking" these teams. I love my Cowboys and of course there's more than one coaching style. I've never coached or played in pads on any level but I've been in and around sports all my life and have been watching football all of my life. I'm not claiming to be an "insider" or a "guru"... but can someone explain "how" Wade coaches during a game. ... I'm not bashing the guy.. obviously he knows more about football than I ever will. He's an accomplished DC but does he LEAD? Has anyone actually seen him "riding" a player? Instructing? Leading? Motivating? He's always facing the field. I rarely see him instructing.. huddling units/players... talking to Garrett.. just the headset on-- looking at the game.. I'm not ripping him.. I'm asking for insight? What is his style?

I'm an eternal optomist and far from doom and gloom. I will support the team regardless but seeing this piece just kinda puts things in perspective of what we might be lacking.

Thoughts whether you've seen the piece or not?

 

[cowboyjoe]

For anybody who loves "the sounds of the game" this is a great show as players and coaches are miked up. I love to hear the on the field and sideline talk. The coaches the emotion etc.. you get the point..


Anyways.. this week they featured Josh McDaniels and Mike Singletary. Obviously I was interested in seeing McDaniels as he led his Broncos over us. I must say I was quite impressed with his leadership. He went over to his team (specific units) at critical points of the game and got them fired up. He went over to Orton and amongst other things told him, "I don't want to hear 'my bad' make the damn play or something to that effect. You could feel his passion, energy and respect he commands. I can see why their 4-0 start isn't a fluke.

Mike Singletary is an absolute beast on the sidelines. I already knew this and had great respect for him but this piece of the Rams game made me see it even more. He had the perfect balance of tearing down/challenging/and encouraging of Glenn Coffey, Josh Morgan and a lineman in separate exchanges. He takes no **** and accepts no execuses. He is teaching, leading and commanding excellence during the game. It's undeniable and inspiring to watch. I felt like suiting up and hitting someone.

Ok so you know where I'm going. I'm not "jocking" these teams. I love my Cowboys and of course there's more than one coaching style. I've never coached or played in pads on any level but I've been in and around sports all my life and have been watching football all of my life. I'm not claiming to be an "insider" or a "guru"... but can someone explain "how" Wade coaches during a game. ... I'm not bashing the guy.. obviously he knows more about football than I ever will. He's an accomplished DC but does he LEAD? Has anyone actually seen him "riding" a player? Instructing? Leading? Motivating? He's always facing the field. I rarely see him instructing.. huddling units/players... talking to Garrett.. just the headset on-- looking at the game.. I'm not ripping him.. I'm asking for insight? What is his style?

I'm an eternal optomist and far from doom and gloom. I will support the team regardless but seeing this piece just kinda puts things in perspective of what we might be lacking.

Thoughts whether you've seen the piece or not?

i know exactly what your talking about, jimmy johnson was the same way like singletary and mcdaniels; if you dont let a player know that when he messes up, how is he going to get better and not do it again, in other words your empowering the player to keep making mistakes if you dont get on him
makes me wonder how wade really does pump the players up during the week, etc

 

[warrior43]

For anybody who loves "the sounds of the game" this is a great show as players and coaches are miked up. I love to hear the on the field and sideline talk. The coaches the emotion etc.. you get the point..


Anyways.. this week they featured Josh McDaniels and Mike Singletary. Obviously I was interested in seeing McDaniels as he led his Broncos over us. I must say I was quite impressed with his leadership. He went over to his team (specific units) at critical points of the game and got them fired up. He went over to Orton and amongst other things told him, "I don't want to hear 'my bad' make the damn play or something to that effect. You could feel his passion, energy and respect he commands. I can see why their 4-0 start isn't a fluke.

Mike Singletary is an absolute beast on the sidelines. I already knew this and had great respect for him but this piece of the Rams game made me see it even more. He had the perfect balance of tearing down/challenging/and encouraging of Glenn Coffey, Josh Morgan and a lineman in separate exchanges. He takes no **** and accepts no execuses. He is teaching, leading and commanding excellence during the game. It's undeniable and inspiring to watch. I felt like suiting up and hitting someone.

Ok so you know where I'm going. I'm not "jocking" these teams. I love my Cowboys and of course there's more than one coaching style. I've never coached or played in pads on any level but I've been in and around sports all my life and have been watching football all of my life. I'm not claiming to be an "insider" or a "guru"... but can someone explain "how" Wade coaches during a game. ... I'm not bashing the guy.. obviously he knows more about football than I ever will. He's an accomplished DC but does he LEAD? Has anyone actually seen him "riding" a player? Instructing? Leading? Motivating? He's always facing the field. I rarely see him instructing.. huddling units/players... talking to Garrett.. just the headset on-- looking at the game.. I'm not ripping him.. I'm asking for insight? What is his style?

I'm an eternal optomist and far from doom and gloom. I will support the team regardless but seeing this piece just kinda puts things in perspective of what we might be lacking.

Thoughts whether you've seen the piece or not?

There 4-0 start should be 3-1 that catch to win at the end of the game this year was the biggest fluke play probably this season.

 

[zrinkill]

This is what I am talking about .....

You cannot be a successful coach of an NFL team unless you give great sound bites.

You idiotic koolaid drinking homers think about that for a second.

 

[THEHEREAFTER]

This is what I am talking about .....

You cannot be a successful coach of an NFL team unless you give great sound bites.

You idiotic koolaid drinking homers think about that for a second.

Lol... it wasn't about "sound bites".. it was about motivating, leading, threatening, inspiring...

 

[zrinkill]

Lol... it wasn't about "sound bites".. it was about motivating, leading, threatening, inspiring...

I know .... I agree

 

[adbutcher]

This is what I am talking about .....

You cannot be a successful coach of an NFL team unless you give great sound bites.

You idiotic koolaid drinking homers think about that for a second.

 

[dcfanatic]

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The Cowboys interviewed Singletary so they had their chance at him.

I do agree he's a great motivator and a leader of men. His players relate to him because he played the game at a high level.

They respect him because of his no nonsense approach.

He's more like a 'father figure' and nothing like the 'grandfather figure' we have in Wade.

No one knows if he will lead them to championships.

But I do think he would inspire more hope in the fans of whatever team he's leading that they will work with dilligence and focus on doing whatever is neccessary to become a better team in time.

Can you really look around and tell me that the Cowboys have looked 100% focused in the last three years?

Jerry has one eye on the football. And the other one on the marketing deals coming across his desk. Awesome outlook as a GM.

Wade has one eye on his defense and one on Garrett. For Garrett just use same sentence with the word defense in place.

Right now when you think of the 49ers in terms of just football and you think of Singletary. He's the boss.

Think of the Dallas Cowboys in terms of just football and you wind up with a headache in just trying to figure out whom you would ask to speak to if you were looking to talk to the boss.

 

[CATCH17]

Singletary would get eatin alive by our fans and local media.

 

[Everlastingxxx]

I watched that Steelers Americas Game and saw Mike Tomlin. Wow, the way he inspires and motivates. Fire, Passion, Emotion...that’s how great football is played.


...then i see Wade. Blah...

 

[superpunk]

I know the Wade guys will kill you for this, and they are kind of right because it's not about fiery or personality or any of that...

IMO your head coach, more than anything else, is a leader. It is their job to keep people motivated, to set the tone for the team, and hold people accountable. They don't have to be rah-rah guys, but IMO it helps. I was struck by Jim Harbaugh like that for an Inside the NFL piece. Coordinators take care of the X's and O's. I can't think of a recent team that was a consistent winner, where the head coach was also a primary playcaller. IMO, that's a recipe for disaster.

We've got all of that here. Maybe Wade is a good leader - I have my doubts. But essentially he is a glorified defensive coordinator. And that's messed up - but I don't think it's entirely Wade's fault, if you know what I mean.

 

[Rampage]

Wade doesn't even talk to anybody during games let alone act like those guys. he just stands their with that dumb look on his face like he's confused.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I can't think of a recent team that was a consistent winner, where the head coach was also a primary playcaller. IMO, that's a recipe for disaster.

How about Andy Reid? Or Belichick on defense?

Don't get me wrong, though -- I'd rather have Singletary as long as he had some good coordinators with him. But the problem is, where do you find another Singletary? He has a unique combination of both personal charisma and an incredible resume as a one of the greatest linebackers who ever lived.

So to the OP, sure, we can post Singletary > Wade all day, every day... But what good does it do? Any suggestions on who the next Singletary is that we could actually hire?

Maybe Harbaugh is that guy. His brother has done a great job.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

Wade doesn't even talk to anybody during games let alone act like those guys. he just stands their with that dumb look on his face like he's confused.

I wouldn't goes as far as to say that he looks "dumb" but it does concern me that he comes across as a fan on the sidelines rather than a game tactician who is focused and looking ahead to the next play(s). He always seems consumed in the moment.

 

[wileedog]

I wouldn't goes as far as to say that he looks "dumb" but it does concern me that he comes across as a fan on the sidelines rather than a game tactician who is focused and looking ahead to the next play(s) rather than being consumed in the moment.

I was going to say the same thing - reminds of a fan they pulled out of the stands who is just happy to be there.

 

[Goldenrichards83]

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The Cowboys interviewed Singletary so they had their chance at him.

I do agree he's a great motivator and a leader of men. His players relate to him because he played the game at a high level.

They respect him because of his no nonsense approach.

He's more like a 'father figure' and nothing like the 'grandfather figure' we have in Wade.

No one knows if he will lead them to championships.

But I do think he would inspire more hope in the fans of whatever team he's leading that they will work with dilligence and focus on doing whatever is neccessary to become a better team in time.

Can you really look around and tell me that the Cowboys have looked 100% focused in the last three years?

Jerry has one eye on the football. And the other one on the marketing deals coming across his desk. Awesome outlook as a GM.

Wade has one eye on his defense and one on Garrett. For Garrett just use same sentence with the word defense in place.

Right now when you think of the 49ers in terms of just football and you think of Singletary. He's the boss.

Think of the Dallas Cowboys in terms of just football and you wind up with a headache in just trying to figure out whom you would ask to speak to if you were looking to talk to the boss.

 

[superpunk]

How about Andy Reid? Or Belichick on defense?

When did Bellichick call his own plays on defense?

I think for Reid, you have to add in that he's come under a ton of fire for his playcalling as head coach, and was eventually forced/volunteered to give up playcalling duties to Morninwheg. In addition, I think we both know who buttered the Eagles bread for all those years. RIP Jim Johnson. But I will say Reid would semi-qualify.

In any case it's rare. More typical is guys who are just great leaders who know how to delegate, and have good people to delegate to - Vermeil, Bellichick, those Steelers coaches, that Indy coach, Schottenheimer, etc....

There's a way to do things. We shouldn't be trying to reinvent the wheel. Your head coach is a manager, a motivater, a leader. Coordinators do all the real work.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Well, Reid called his plays for years before Marty M even got there, and then we have guys like Holmgren. A lot of those West Coast coaches call their own plays. Gibbs called his plays, I'm pretty sure. And I think Belichick pretty much does the defense. Maybe not every single call, but I think he does most of it.

But anyway, I agree that it's probably better to have a head coach who oversees the whole process.

I thought the key point about Singletary was his personal charisma and the attitude he has. But again, I think those guys are incredibly rare. I guess maybe Tomlin is one, but I think he's overrated. Doubt he'd be even close to the same without LeBeau there.

 

[dcfanatic]

How about Andy Reid? Or Belichick on defense?

Don't get me wrong, though -- I'd rather have Singletary as long as he had some good coordinators with him. But the problem is, where do you find another Singletary? He has a unique combination of both personal charisma and an incredible resume as a one of the greatest linebackers who ever lived.

So to the OP, sure, we can post Singletary > Wade all day, every day... But what good does it do? Any suggestions on who the next Singletary is that we could actually hire?

Maybe Harbaugh is that guy. His brother has done a great job.

Think about it.

The Cowboys, Jerry and crew, had Wade and Singletary in for interviews back when Parcells left.

They chose Wade.

They chose a guy who was laid back and was on his last legs in the NFL. A guy they could control. A guy who was just so very happy to just be afforded a chance to be the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys. A guy who was always looking to remove accountabilty from his players because he would step in and take the bullet for them. A guy who had proven already that he was more suited as a coordinator with someone as his boss.

They passed on a guy who was up and coming. A guy who was not going to put up with shananigans and lack luster effort in the stuff that goes on from Monday til Saturday. A guy who wanted to inspire young men to be the best they could be by being real with them about their faults on and off the field. A guy who had worked his butt off as an assistant and was looking to take the next step in becoming the boss.

Jerry didn't want a 'Mike Singletary'.

Jerry wanted an employee.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Think about it.

The Cowboys, Jerry and crew, had Wade and Singletary in for interviews back when Parcells left.

They chose Wade.

They chose a guy who was laid back and was on his last legs in the NFL. A guy they could control. A guy who was just so very happy to just be afforded a chance to be the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys. A guy who was always looking to remove accountabilty from his players because he would step in and take the bullet for them. A guy who had proven already that he was more suited as a coordinator with someone as his boss.

They passed on a guy who was up and coming. A guy who was not going to put up with shananigans and lack luster effort in the stuff that goes on from Monday til Saturday. A guy who wanted to inspire young men to be the best they could be by being real with them about their faults on and off the field. A guy who had worked his butt off as an assistant and was looking to take the next step in becoming the boss.

Jerry didn't want a 'Mike Singletary'.

Jerry wanted an employee.

See, I don't buy that. You can't ignore that at the time, Singletary was a *very* green NFL coach. He was only a LB coach at the time and he hadn't even been a coach very long at all... Only a few years after being a motivational speaker. So he wasn't the guy three years ago that he is now. And turning over a pretty good team (even a Ferrari or Lamborghini, some say) to a coach that inexperienced would've been a huge risk.

I don't think it had anything to do with him being a tough coach. There's no indication that he wanted to run the draft or anything of that nature.