Anybody Watch Sound F/X (NFL Network)--Got me thinking about Wade

[wileedog]

See, I don't buy that. You can't ignore that at the time, Singletary was a *very* green NFL coach. He was only a LB coach at the time and he hadn't even been a coach very long at all... Only a few years after being a motivational speaker. So he wasn't the guy three years ago that he is now. And turning over a pretty good team (even a Ferrari or Lamborghini, some say) to a coach that inexperienced would've been a huge risk.

I don't think it had anything to do with him being a tough coach. There's no indication that he wanted to run the draft or anything of that nature.

I'd buy that more if he hadn't made a 1 year QB coach the Offensive Coordinator at the same time he was hiring a strictly defensive Head Coach.

And honestly if it was the experience factor that was the problem, why even interview him? You could see that just looking at the resume.

 

[AKATheRake]

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The Cowboys interviewed Singletary so they had their chance at him.

I do agree he's a great motivator and a leader of men. His players relate to him because he played the game at a high level.

They respect him because of his no nonsense approach.

He's more like a 'father figure' and nothing like the 'grandfather figure' we have in Wade.

No one knows if he will lead them to championships.

But I do think he would inspire more hope in the fans of whatever team he's leading that they will work with dilligence and focus on doing whatever is neccessary to become a better team in time.

Can you really look around and tell me that the Cowboys have looked 100% focused in the last three years?

Jerry has one eye on the football. And the other one on the marketing deals coming across his desk. Awesome outlook as a GM.

Wade has one eye on his defense and one on Garrett. For Garrett just use same sentence with the word defense in place.

Right now when you think of the 49ers in terms of just football and you think of Singletary. He's the boss.

Think of the Dallas Cowboys in terms of just football and you wind up with a headache in just trying to figure out whom you would ask to speak to if you were looking to talk to the boss.

35 - 0 they beat a bad football team and did it the way they should have. That was a complete game for the 9er's, something good coaching will stimulate. It's fair to say we haven't played more than 2 complete games in 3 years as a team.

 

[AKATheRake]

Think about it.

The Cowboys, Jerry and crew, had Wade and Singletary in for interviews back when Parcells left.

They chose Wade.

They chose a guy who was laid back and was on his last legs in the NFL. A guy they could control. A guy who was just so very happy to just be afforded a chance to be the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys. A guy who was always looking to remove accountabilty from his players because he would step in and take the bullet for them. A guy who had proven already that he was more suited as a coordinator with someone as his boss.

They passed on a guy who was up and coming. A guy who was not going to put up with shananigans and lack luster effort in the stuff that goes on from Monday til Saturday. A guy who wanted to inspire young men to be the best they could be by being real with them about their faults on and off the field. A guy who had worked his butt off as an assistant and was looking to take the next step in becoming the boss.

Jerry didn't want a 'Mike Singletary'.

Jerry wanted an employee.

:clap2: Absolutely! But Jerry more importantly wanted Ginger, even thought HC possibilities for him that year.

I look at Pat Bowen down in Denver. He choked on Shanny's big pay cheque to go out and do what he thought was best at HC for his football team. Even stuck by this new lightning rod of a coach and shipped out the young franchise QB.

I thought he was nuts myself, but boy are they proving how important it is to have authority utilized in the right places. Even their most talented WR is slotted at # 2 till he proves his dedication to the team. Talk about instilling who runs a locker room down there.

 

[arglebargle]

When did Bellichick call his own plays on defense?

I think for Reid, you have to add in that he's come under a ton of fire for his playcalling as head coach, and was eventually forced/volunteered to give up playcalling duties to Morninwheg. In addition, I think we both know who buttered the Eagles bread for all those years. RIP Jim Johnson. But I will say Reid would semi-qualify.

In any case it's rare. More typical is guys who are just great leaders who know how to delegate, and have good people to delegate to - Vermeil, Bellichick, those Steelers coaches, that Indy coach, Schottenheimer, etc....

There's a way to do things. We shouldn't be trying to reinvent the wheel. Your head coach is a manager, a motivater, a leader. Coordinators do all the real work.

Apparantly the trend is towards more coaches calling the plays on one side or another. IMO the more you try and do, the better you have to be to make it all work.

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=164609

 

[dcfanatic]

See, I don't buy that. You can't ignore that at the time, Singletary was a *very* green NFL coach. He was only a LB coach at the time and he hadn't even been a coach very long at all... Only a few years after being a motivational speaker. So he wasn't the guy three years ago that he is now. And turning over a pretty good team (even a Ferrari or Lamborghini, some say) to a coach that inexperienced would've been a huge risk.

I don't think it had anything to do with him being a tough coach. There's no indication that he wanted to run the draft or anything of that nature.

Take this lightly.

WAKE UP CL.

Wade isn't running any drafts. He doesn't have any say in the Offense.

We hired a defensive coordinator when we hired Wade.

Now the argument could be made about the 34 defense. But that's the only argument.

One was a hungry lion who wanted to take over a pride. The other was an old lion on his last legs who wanted to watch the others make a kill and then stroll in and get some meat.

 

[Frosty]

35 - 0 they beat a bad football team and did it the way they should have. That was a complete game for the 9er's, something good coaching will stimulate. It's fair to say we haven't played more than 2 complete games in 3 years as a team.

Jerry Jones will never hire another Johnson or Singletary type coach...IMO he chose Wade over singletary and others primarliy so Mr. Jones remains the main influence on the team

ala....restricting coaches and players (during the offseason) from talking to the media...make no bones about it, Wade is the DC and Garrett is the OC and Jerry Jones is the HC, GM and Owner.

Wade is nothing but a stand in puppet for Jerry Jones...

12 years since a playoff win....12 years Jerry Jones has maintained strict control of all jocks and socks.....it wont change until the GM understands he is part of the problem..

 

[tunahelper]

Wade doesn't even talk to anybody during games let alone act like those guys. he just stands their with that dumb look on his face like he's confused.

This is completely false! Wade does a fist pump or places his face in his hands when things go bad.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Take this lightly.

WAKE UP CL.

Wade isn't running any drafts. He doesn't have any say in the Offense.

We hired a defensive coordinator when we hired Wade.

Now the argument could be made about the 34 defense. But that's the only argument.

One was a hungry lion who wanted to take over a pride. The other was an old lion on his last legs who wanted to watch the others make a kill and then stroll in and get some meat.

Take this however you want, but WAKE UP DC.

I never said Wade wanted to run drafts. I said that because you suggested that Singletary was too strong a personality and Jerry only wanted some lackey a.k.a. "employee".

It's great revisionist history now, but at the time Singletary was nothing but a LB coach. Wade had at least been a HC, and a winning one. I know you hate him, but it's the truth and the reasoning behind hiring him made sense.

I love Singletary -- I remember reading when I was a kid about him legendarily breaking a dozen helmets or something at Baylor. But the "young hungry lion" stuff could've been said about Ron Rivera just as well.

 

[Joe Realist]

Think about it.

The Cowboys, Jerry and crew, had Wade and Singletary in for interviews back when Parcells left.

They chose Wade.

They chose a guy who was laid back and was on his last legs in the NFL. A guy they could control. A guy who was just so very happy to just be afforded a chance to be the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys. A guy who was always looking to remove accountabilty from his players because he would step in and take the bullet for them. A guy who had proven already that he was more suited as a coordinator with someone as his boss.

They passed on a guy who was up and coming. A guy who was not going to put up with shananigans and lack luster effort in the stuff that goes on from Monday til Saturday. A guy who wanted to inspire young men to be the best they could be by being real with them about their faults on and off the field. A guy who had worked his butt off as an assistant and was looking to take the next step in becoming the boss.

Jerry didn't want a 'Mike Singletary'.

Jerry wanted an employee.

The problem was that Parcells beat the team down and though Singletary would seem to be what the Cowboys need, I dont think Jerry wanted that type of environment and Singletary might not have put up with Jerry's ****. So you get Wade and the players respond immediately with an inspired 2007. Then as time goes on, you see no leadership, accountability as well as a host of other things that have been debated here to death. A Singletary type is needed now.