Anyone know if Thornton cleared waivers?

[Cowboy from New York]

He had some good moments this preseason. Hope we luck out and can bring him back after week or two when Burnett is healthy ray2: hopefully.

 

[ghst187]

Wasn't it BRUCE thorton that was waived rather than KALEN thorton?
I thought KALEN thorton went on IR.
If I'm the one mistaken I will be upset because I really liked KALEN thorton's potential. He was really bringing the heat, even if it was against 2nd stringers.
Bruce Thorton was a bust from the beginning and I knew that the second we drafted him. Hopefully we kept the RIGHT Thorton.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Yes, the cornerback Bruce was the one released...

I checked KFFL, but I didn't see where he'd been claimed.

But the fact that Parcells mentioned in the PC that "We don't know yet if Thornton has been claimed" makes me think that they definitely want to bring him back if possible.

 

[JackMagist]

Wasn't it BRUCE thorton that was waived rather than KALEN thorton?
I thought KALEN thorton went on IR.
If I'm the one mistaken I will be upset because I really liked KALEN thorton's potential. He was really bringing the heat, even if it was against 2nd stringers.
Bruce Thorton was a bust from the beginning and I knew that the second we drafted him. Hopefully we kept the RIGHT Thorton.

Yes Kalen (OLB) is on IR and Bruce (CB) was cut. I don't know it Bruce cleared waivers or not but I agree that he was a waste of a draft pick. Hopefully we just let him go.

 

[CowboyManDan]

I think we should try tp bring Thornton back to the practice squad assuming he's eligible and doesn't get picked up. I think heneeds a little more time before we give up on him...he missed all of last year, so this was like a rookie year for him and I thought he played well the last couple preseason games.

 

[parchy]

Thornton is better than Reeves

 

[Quincy_Will_Return]

Yes, he did clear waivers.

 

[AbeBeta]

Thornton is better than Reeves

Funny, why then does Reeves play and Thornton get cut? Thornton couldn't beat out Jones. I was surprised BP drafted him because he's more of a Jerry type pick - looks like a player but doesn't play like one.

 

[morasp]

Funny, why then does Reeves play and Thornton get cut? Thornton couldn't beat out Jones. I was surprised BP drafted him because he's more of a Jerry type pick - looks like a player but doesn't play like one.

He picked up quite a bit at the end of pre-season. I think that's why Parcells has the three year rule, a lot of these players go through quite a culture shock.

 

[AdamJT13]

Funny, why then does Reeves play and Thornton get cut? Thornton couldn't beat out Jones. I was surprised BP drafted him because he's more of a Jerry type pick - looks like a player but doesn't play like one.

Thornton is a better cornerback than either Reeves or Jones. But Reeves and Jones are both better on special teams and as nickel/slot defenders, and they both can play nickel safety. If Thornton was on our 53-man roster, he wouldn't be active on game days as long as Newman, Henry and Glenn all were healthy.

 

[Alexander]

Thornton is better than Reeves

So why isn't he on the team?

 

[Nors]

He's a major bust.

Total reach pick for the 4th.
Let him be better on someone else's roster. If he even sticks in this league.

 

[Alexander]

Thornton is a better cornerback than either Reeves or Jones.

So, is Coach Parcells in the habit of just releasing "better" players?

But Reeves and Jones are both better on special teams and as nickel/slot defenders, and they both can play nickel safety.

So what makes either inferior to Thornton as cornerbacks? Care to qualify your statement?

If Thornton was on our 53-man roster, he wouldn't be active on game days as long as Newman, Henry and Glenn all were healthy.

I love the mindset.

People who do not watch the team on a day to day basis and are not football coaches feel fit to judge the decisions. If Thornton were indeed significantly better in any phase of his game, I don't think we would just expose him just because he cannot play special teams.

What we should be asking ourselves is why can't he play special teams, not sitting here and glibly stating that he is better than what we have.

I am very glad not a single poster in the cyberverse is in charge of this team.

 

[AdamJT13]

So, is Coach Parcells in the habit of just releasing "better" players?

He releases less useful players. Quincy Morgan is a better receiver than Terrance Copper, but Copper is more useful. He's also younger and cheaper.

So what makes either inferior to Thornton as cornerbacks? Care to qualify your statement?

At cornerback, Thornton is better in coverage than Reeves at cornerback or Jones at cornerback (which he rarely plays anyway). Reeves, though, does have the physical tools to be better than Thornton. It's not a huge difference, but Thornton is/was better at cornerback. But he never would have even dressed for a game unless Newman, Henry or Glenn -- or maybe even two of the three -- were hurt.

People who do not watch the team on a day to day basis and are not football coaches feel fit to judge the decisions. If Thornton were indeed significantly better in any phase of his game, I don't think we would just expose him just because he cannot play special teams.

Sure we would. NFL teams have to make sure they have the best combination of 45 players active on game days. A fourth cornerback who contributes little or nothing on special teams and doesn't have the ability to play other positions on defense IS NOT as valuable to a team as a fourth cornerback who plays special teams, plays in the slot and can play safety in a pinch. Even if we lose a little at the fourth cornerback spot by cutting Thornton, we came out ahead because of the contributions Reeves and Jones can make elsewhere.

What we should be asking ourselves is why can't he play special teams, not sitting here and glibly stating that he is better than what we have.

Thornton didn't play much special teams in college and wasn't good at it here. In case you haven't noticed, Parcells insists that backup players be able to contribute on special teams. If they can't, they're not as useful as one who can.

I am very glad not a single poster in the cyberverse is in charge of this team.

I would have released Thornton, too, for the same reasons Parcells did.

 

[ghst187]

I am very glad not a single poster in the cyberverse is in charge of this team.

what are you talking about? I'm in on all major decisions...although i stepped to the restroom while we made most of our draft picks the last 4 or 5 years. I just held it this year

 

[Nors]

BP said Nate Jones was flat out ahead of Thornton in PC a few weeks back. Mentally got it, savy and he was gushing over him.

He was lukewarm at best on Thornton, Thornton gone.

He called out Reeves today in PC.

I think Thornton was a TERRIBLE Reach and bust drfat pick. I said that the day we took him.

 

[Alexander]

At cornerback, Thornton is better in coverage than Reeves at cornerback or Jones at cornerback (which he rarely plays anyway). Reeves, though, does have the physical tools to be better than Thornton. It's not a huge difference, but Thornton is/was better at cornerback. But he never would have even dressed for a game unless Newman, Henry or Glenn -- or maybe even two of the three -- were hurt.

Again, you have said nothing but opinion.

Thornton could not beat out either Reeves or Jones in last year's training camp, when this team was crying out for options at right cornerback. And that had nothing to do with a numbers game and who had more prowess on special teams.

Sure we would. NFL teams have to make sure they have the best combination of 45 players active on game days. A fourth cornerback who contributes little or nothing on special teams and doesn't have the ability to play other positions on defense IS NOT as valuable to a team as a fourth cornerback who plays special teams, plays in the slot and can play safety in a pinch. Even if we lose a little at the fourth cornerback spot by cutting Thornton, we came out ahead because of the contributions Reeves and Jones can make elsewhere.

Nobody was saying a thing about utility. Everyone should understand that. You made a statement. "Thornton is a better cornerback than Reeves".

So, what are you basing that off of?

College press clippings?

It certainly cannot be anything he has shown as a professional.

Thornton didn't play much special teams in college and wasn't good at it here. In case you haven't noticed, Parcells insists that backup players be able to contribute on special teams. If they can't, they're not as useful as one who can.

I have noticed that. I was not even going at the role on special teams. That is fairly obvious.

I would have released Thornton, too, for the same reasons Parcells did.

I ask again, what makes Thornton a "better cornerback"?

 

[speedkilz88]

On the pre-game show it was said that BP and the coaches were high on Thornton because he had the best tools out of the young cbs. He just needed to be more consistent. This is a guy that was originally a rb in college.

 

[AdamJT13]

Again, you have said nothing but opinion.

What, did you ban opinions from being expressed in this forum? Sorry, but I must have missed that memo.

Thornton could not beat out either Reeves or Jones in last year's training camp, when this team was crying out for options at right cornerback. And that had nothing to do with a numbers game and who had more prowess on special teams.

Jones and Reeves were never in the competition at right cornerback during training camp. They were both on the left side, behind Newman. Thornton was competing with Hunter and Powell for the starting job on the right side. And when Powell was released, Thornton was No. 2 on Hunter's side. Reeves was No. 2 on Newman's side, and Jones was listed at No. 3 on Newman's side.

I ask again, what makes Thornton a "better cornerback"?

I already gave you my opinion. From what I've seen this preseason, Thornton is better at cornerback than Reeves and Jones (slightly better than Reeves, moreso compared to Jones).

 

[Nors]

Thornton cut - will be out of the league